tidesofdark Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 (edited) Hi! Specs: Gigabyte Z370 HD3 Intel i7 8700k (no OC) SAPPHIRE RX580 NITRO+ SPECIAL EDITION Corsair 16Gb 2133Mhz Kingston SSD 240 LG 27UK850 4K Latest Clover Kexts: Lilu, WhateverGreen, VirtualSMC, IntelMausi, AppleALC So my problem is that UI is not as smooth as it should be. Some animations(window switching, dock icon floating, finder scrolling, etc) looks like they are 20fps instead of 60fps. Here comes weirdest thing: Selecting area feels jerky UNLESS I have Siri opened. Or Open Broadcast Software. Or CleanMyMac. This screen shot was taken from a screen recording video. I can upload this video if anyone is interested. Spoiler Geekbench shows 151k for OpenCL and 146k for Metal. Games work fine. What should I look into? config.plist Edited October 3, 2018 by tidesofdark 1 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/335781-mojave-v-sync-makes-ui-feel-laggy/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
tidesofdark Posted October 2, 2018 Author Share Posted October 2, 2018 Also, there was no such selecting issue on High Sierra with same config. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/335781-mojave-v-sync-makes-ui-feel-laggy/#findComment-2638428 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 @MaLd0n has the same hardware as you. Maybe he can give a help to you Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/335781-mojave-v-sync-makes-ui-feel-laggy/#findComment-2638438 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tidesofdark Posted October 3, 2018 Author Share Posted October 3, 2018 57 minutes ago, Allan said: @MaLd0n has the same hardware as you. Maybe he can give a help to you I hope so! Some ppl at applelife.ru do have same hardware and they tried to help me. Unfortunately no luck. Btw it's sapphire rx 580 nitro+ special edition. I wonder how it worked just fine on high sierra. My high sierra build migrated from msi z170 mobo to one im using right now and everything was fine. Of course i tried installing Mojave multiple times/different methods, tried many clover options. Someone at applelife.ru even fixed dsdt for me but still no success. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/335781-mojave-v-sync-makes-ui-feel-laggy/#findComment-2638449 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 Are you using the last version of High Sierra? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/335781-mojave-v-sync-makes-ui-feel-laggy/#findComment-2638451 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tidesofdark Posted October 3, 2018 Author Share Posted October 3, 2018 3 minutes ago, Allan said: Are you using the last version of High Sierra? I'm using Mojave. I was using latest High Sierra before installing fresh Mojave multiple times. What I'm saying is that i had z170 mobo and High Sierra then upgraded mobo and cpu and everything was fine. Installing Mojave caused these weird things to appear Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/335781-mojave-v-sync-makes-ui-feel-laggy/#findComment-2638452 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 Ahhh ok. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/335781-mojave-v-sync-makes-ui-feel-laggy/#findComment-2638453 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tidesofdark Posted October 3, 2018 Author Share Posted October 3, 2018 Spoiler OK so vsync is the culprit. Turning it off solves UI lags. However I still have no solution, keeping quartz debug running all the time is {censored} Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/335781-mojave-v-sync-makes-ui-feel-laggy/#findComment-2638467 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tidesofdark Posted October 3, 2018 Author Share Posted October 3, 2018 Definitely not a solution, disabling it produces awful tearing in Firefox. Hoever macOS UI works perfect Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/335781-mojave-v-sync-makes-ui-feel-laggy/#findComment-2638468 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denicio Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 3 hours ago, tidesofdark said: Reveal hidden contents OK so vsync is the culprit. Turning it off solves UI lags. However I still have no solution, keeping quartz debug running all the time is {censored} How do you get this window? I would like to try as well. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/335781-mojave-v-sync-makes-ui-feel-laggy/#findComment-2638491 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tidesofdark Posted October 3, 2018 Author Share Posted October 3, 2018 4 hours ago, Denicio said: How do you get this window? I would like to try as well. From official xcode tools pack Quartz Debug.zip 2 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/335781-mojave-v-sync-makes-ui-feel-laggy/#findComment-2638520 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SavageAUS Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 What UEFI clover drivers are you using? I have the same graphics card with no issues. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/335781-mojave-v-sync-makes-ui-feel-laggy/#findComment-2638627 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tidesofdark Posted October 3, 2018 Author Share Posted October 3, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, SavageAUS said: What UEFI clover drivers are you using? I have the same graphics card with no issues. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk These Spoiler Edited October 3, 2018 by tidesofdark Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/335781-mojave-v-sync-makes-ui-feel-laggy/#findComment-2638628 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tidesofdark Posted October 4, 2018 Author Share Posted October 4, 2018 15 hours ago, SavageAUS said: What UEFI clover drivers are you using? I have the same graphics card with no issues. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Did you try using Quartz Debug to disable vsync and check if its more smooth? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/335781-mojave-v-sync-makes-ui-feel-laggy/#findComment-2638730 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SavageAUS Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 These Spoiler Are you using FV2?Clover version?Kexts updated?Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/335781-mojave-v-sync-makes-ui-feel-laggy/#findComment-2638809 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tidesofdark Posted October 4, 2018 Author Share Posted October 4, 2018 1 hour ago, SavageAUS said: Are you using FV2? Clover version? Kexts updated? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Clover 4674 Latest kexts of course Not sure about FV2, I just installed it through recovery's netinstall Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/335781-mojave-v-sync-makes-ui-feel-laggy/#findComment-2638817 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SavageAUS Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 If your not using FV2 then you can get rid of half your UEFI drivers which may be causing lag. I believe over in the clover thread you can find out which drivers are for which or build the latest clover which has them in seperate sub menus. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/335781-mojave-v-sync-makes-ui-feel-laggy/#findComment-2638818 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tidesofdark Posted October 4, 2018 Author Share Posted October 4, 2018 12 minutes ago, SavageAUS said: If your not using FV2 then you can get rid of half your UEFI drivers which may be causing lag. I believe over in the clover thread you can find out which drivers are for which or build the latest clover which has them in seperate sub menus. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk K so tried removing all Apple* drivers as well as few other drivers - no luck. Btw you know how you get apple progress bar then having black screen for GPU init and then progress bar continues? So I can notice how framerate is fine during first progress bar and then becomes jerky once GPU is initialized(after black screen). Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/335781-mojave-v-sync-makes-ui-feel-laggy/#findComment-2638820 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SavageAUS Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 Strange. Can you show your kext and drivers folder now? I can’t look at your config.plist now but if you upload it (serials removed) maybe someone can spot something wrong. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/335781-mojave-v-sync-makes-ui-feel-laggy/#findComment-2638821 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tidesofdark Posted October 5, 2018 Author Share Posted October 5, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, SavageAUS said: Strange. Can you show your kext and drivers folder now? I can’t look at your config.plist now but if you upload it (serials removed) maybe someone can spot something wrong. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Sure. I really wonder what went wrong. You know if you google mojave v-sync you can find some mentions of related problems. Though they are opengl-related. For example v-sync doesn't work anymore for GLFW (opengl framework) under Mojave. As far as I know Mojave is full-Metal right now, how the heck clicking on Siri would fix this v-sync issue? I really need to test other monitor with my setup too but can't at the moment. Attachments: Spoiler config.plist Edited October 5, 2018 by tidesofdark Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/335781-mojave-v-sync-makes-ui-feel-laggy/#findComment-2638822 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SavageAUS Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 Try deleting EmuVariable. You shouldn’t need that and AptioMemory. And what is the AppleDataSetManagement kext for? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/335781-mojave-v-sync-makes-ui-feel-laggy/#findComment-2638823 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tidesofdark Posted October 5, 2018 Author Share Posted October 5, 2018 10 minutes ago, SavageAUS said: Try deleting EmuVariable. You shouldn’t need that and AptioMemory. And what is the AppleDataSetManagement kext for? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Removed AppleDataSetManagement and EmuVariable - no luck. Removing AptioMemory won't allow me to boot. First MemoryFix driver works the same as AptioMemory for me. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/335781-mojave-v-sync-makes-ui-feel-laggy/#findComment-2638825 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SavageAUS Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 Well I’m at a loss until I can take a look at your config.plist sorry. I’ll post back if I have anymore ideas or get a chance to look at it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/335781-mojave-v-sync-makes-ui-feel-laggy/#findComment-2638826 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tidesofdark Posted October 5, 2018 Author Share Posted October 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, SavageAUS said: Well I’m at a loss until I can take a look at your config.plist sorry. I’ll post back if I have anymore ideas or get a chance to look at it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk OK thank you. Btw do you have InjectIntel enabled? I'm kinda concerned about this one as my intel UHD 630 won't show up in system report if i don't use this flag. Sadly toggling it doesn't fix my issue. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/335781-mojave-v-sync-makes-ui-feel-laggy/#findComment-2638827 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaLd0n Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 shikigva=60 intelgfx 59128086 ig-platform-id 59120003 injectintel use iMac18,1 or iMac18,2 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/335781-mojave-v-sync-makes-ui-feel-laggy/#findComment-2638828 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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