Slice Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 Here I want to make instructions for those who still don't know what is Wine. I live without MS Windows. How? All program I needed exist in Mac version or can be run through Wine. What is Wine? Wine Is Not Emulator. It is Wrapper. It means that all processor commands execute natively with native speed and all library calls redirected to similar library calls using host system drivers. The most questionable is DirectX calls. They are replaced by OpenGL calls and shaders run mostly natively. Real test shows that same game run on the same computer under Wine a 10% slower then on real Windows. And sometimes even faster with poor quality. Sometimes a game will not work with your Windows version (requiring Vista only for example). Wine can report any version you like. Wine can run Windows 98 games. Sometimes a game will work on stretched window in real Windows. In Wine it works with square pixels OK, go! 1. Download Wineskin Winery application. It is portal to this solution. It works in ElCapitan no matter what download said. 2. Start it. 3. Click + to choose an Engine. Download what proposed. 4. Click "Update Wrapper" 5. Quit the Winery for this moment. 6. Download WrapperUpdate5 and Sherry engines. Binary releases and tests 7. Unpack and copy WrapperUpdate to Wineskin folder cp -R ~/Downloads/WrapperUpdate5/* ~/Library/Application\ Support/Wineskin/Wrapper/Wineskin-2.6.2.app/Contents/Frameworks/ 8. Copy WineSherry to engines folder cp -R ~/Downloads/WS9WineSherry-1.9.7.tar.7z ~/Library/Application\ Support/Wineskin/Engines/ 9. Start Winery again. 10. Create New Blank Wrapper. 11. Show it in Finder and quit Winery. 12. Start the Wrapper. 13. Click "Install Software" and choose windows executable setup.exe of your favorite game. Enloy! 14. Next time you may Open Package Content of the Wrapper and see Wineskin application here. Launch it to see as 12. 15. Click Advanced and see more options. Configuration: Browse - to choose other executable EXE Flags - if the application need it Install Sofware - to install more applications into the same wrapper Test Run - to run extra applications Tools: Config Utility (winecfg) - to set some options needed for some game, somehow workarounds if a game will not works. Registry Editor - same as on Windows. To change some Windows and Applications settings Winetricks - special actions to help some applications work in Wine Change Engine Used - to install new WineSherry Kill Wineskin Processes - if the Applications stalls. Like Ctrl-Alt-Del on real Windows. You can skip black screen of hanged application by pressing ALT-TAB Options I will not recommend to set something else here So the Wineskin with Sherry has many abilities to tune for a game and many Windows games really working under Wine. DirectX9 almost all. DirectX10/11 the work in progress. Wine is developed very actively. More then 300 commits every two weeks. AT this stage I accepted all WineHQ commits and keep my 140 patches specific in Sherry. The instruction thread will be continued. Ask! 13 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/311670-how-to-play-windows-games-on-mac/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
JahStories Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 Great thing to have a specific engine made for hacks! Great work! Here a link to a very active community about wine gaming on OsX. 1 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/311670-how-to-play-windows-games-on-mac/#findComment-2229575 Share on other sites More sharing options...
droples Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 Thank you! All perfectly. WS9WineSherry-1.9.7.tar.7z Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/311670-how-to-play-windows-games-on-mac/#findComment-2229582 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slice Posted April 2, 2016 Author Share Posted April 2, 2016 Great thing to have a specific engine made for hacks! Great work! Here a link to a very active community about wine gaming on OsX. I am present there. 2 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/311670-how-to-play-windows-games-on-mac/#findComment-2229592 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JahStories Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 Yeah! It's a long time that I don't connect there! here a link to an old abandonware port! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/311670-how-to-play-windows-games-on-mac/#findComment-2229593 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JahStories Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/311670-how-to-play-windows-games-on-mac/#findComment-2229627 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fantomas Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 Works fine here WS9WineSherry-1.9.7.tar.7z Don't know if it is necessary but do you think we should have a separated topic for all Windows games which work fine with your engine? 1 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/311670-how-to-play-windows-games-on-mac/#findComment-2231225 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slice Posted April 9, 2016 Author Share Posted April 9, 2016 Works fine here WS9WineSherry-1.9.7.tar.7z Don't know if it is necessary but do you think we should have a separated topic for all Windows games which work fine with your engine? Yes, It should be separate thread keeping this thread for questions about the instruction. 1 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/311670-how-to-play-windows-games-on-mac/#findComment-2231244 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JahStories Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 Works fine here WS9WineSherry-1.9.7.tar.7z M-B-R.png Don't know if it is necessary but do you think we should have a separated topic for all Windows games which work fine with your engine? Its a very good idea! 1 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/311670-how-to-play-windows-games-on-mac/#findComment-2231271 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tetonne Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Any new version? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/311670-how-to-play-windows-games-on-mac/#findComment-2338718 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slice Posted December 26, 2016 Author Share Posted December 26, 2016 Any new version? They wiil be at http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/308994-binary-releases-and-tests/ when ready. I am preparing Sherry-2.0 but the basis (wine-2.0) is at preliminary level now. Please wait some time. 2 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/311670-how-to-play-windows-games-on-mac/#findComment-2339685 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tetonne Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 i would like to install this software Télécharger l'essai but installation failed with the wrapper, any advice, tips? best regards Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/311670-how-to-play-windows-games-on-mac/#findComment-2366553 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slice Posted February 13, 2017 Author Share Posted February 13, 2017 Fail with installation or fail to play? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/311670-how-to-play-windows-games-on-mac/#findComment-2367410 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tetonne Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 Fail with installation or fail to play? installation failed, Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/311670-how-to-play-windows-games-on-mac/#findComment-2370963 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnfesq Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 Is there a way to create the wrapper apps in a folder other than User/Applications? I deleted that folder and use the System/Application folder instead. I didn't see any setting that allows me to change the default location for wrappers. Thanks. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/311670-how-to-play-windows-games-on-mac/#findComment-2406110 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slice Posted April 17, 2017 Author Share Posted April 17, 2017 You can move the wrapper in any place you like. It can be started as a separate application from everywhere. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/311670-how-to-play-windows-games-on-mac/#findComment-2406174 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnfesq Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 I am trying to install a windows app that uses a setup.xml to provide the order of installing several msi components. Wine can't seem to open the xml file so it doesn't know the location or order of the msi files that are needed to install the complete app. Any ideas how to work around or fix that? BTW, it's not a Windows game so if this only applies to games and not to other apps, please let me know. I'm trying to install WordPerfect X8. Thanks. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/311670-how-to-play-windows-games-on-mac/#findComment-2406263 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slice Posted April 18, 2017 Author Share Posted April 18, 2017 It is not "for game only", it is for any windows application. But some applications require tricks and others are not working yet. In this case it should be reported to bugs.winehq.org. Now I found Bug 11747 - CorelDRAW Graphics Suite X3/X4 trial installers crash Bug 27240 - Corel Paint Shop Photo Pro X3/X4 trial installer crashes There is workaround Winetricks -> msxml3 1 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/311670-how-to-play-windows-games-on-mac/#findComment-2406357 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0000-1248 Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 Very interesting concept. I will have to try for myself when I get home. I assume this will only work for basic games currently; as you stated that no DX10/11 support was included as of today. I wonder then, if a more advanced DX9 game Far Cry 1 or 2 may work. I tried Wine a while ago running games but it didn't work out so great so I'm very interested to see how it turns out. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/311670-how-to-play-windows-games-on-mac/#findComment-2406359 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slice Posted April 18, 2017 Author Share Posted April 18, 2017 Very interesting concept. I will have to try for myself when I get home. I assume this will only work for basic games currently; as you stated that no DX10/11 support was included as of today. I wonder then, if a more advanced DX9 game Far Cry 1 or 2 may work. I tried Wine a while ago running games but it didn't work out so great so I'm very interested to see how it turns out. A while ago is too aged. The wine is fast updated. About Far Cry see bugzilla https://bugs.winehq.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=Far%20Cry 1 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/311670-how-to-play-windows-games-on-mac/#findComment-2406434 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnfesq Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 It is not "for game only", it is for any windows application. But some applications require tricks and others are not working yet. In this case it should be reported to bugs.winehq.org. Now I found Bug 11747 - CorelDRAW Graphics Suite X3/X4 trial installers crash Bug 27240 - Corel Paint Shop Photo Pro X3/X4 trial installer crashes There is workaround Winetricks -> msxml3 Снимок экрана 2017-04-18 в 7.40.10.png Thanks for your reply. I have tried Wine and wine-based apps in the past so that I wouldn't have to run a virtual machine of Windows on my laptop. The one Windows app I need for my work is WordPerfect and I prefer to have the most recent version because of the features it now offers that past versions did not have. Wine has always had problems with Corel apps and the Draw and Paint apps above are several years old. My installation issue is different than those because the installer has changed in the past few years. Right now, I'm using WordPerfect X8 and there is nothing in any of the forums to get versions of WordPerfect to work beyond WP 8 (i.e. 10 versions ago.). I'll keep checking on this from time-to-time and maybe Wine will make enough advances to serve my purpose. Until then, I will continue to run a VM of Windows on my PC running macOS natively. I always get a laugh saying that since there are compelling reasons to just run Windows natively. While I could run my VM so that the Windows apps I want can run in macOS, I have gotten used to having separate desktops for work (Windows) and play (macOS). Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/311670-how-to-play-windows-games-on-mac/#findComment-2406870 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tetonne Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Thanks a lot Slice for WS9WineSherry-4.0 release any Wrapper Update or the one provided post 1 is the last regards :-) Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/311670-how-to-play-windows-games-on-mac/#findComment-2661765 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slice Posted January 29, 2019 Author Share Posted January 29, 2019 WrapperUpdate6 is the last. AFAIK it already included into wrapper 2.6.4. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/311670-how-to-play-windows-games-on-mac/#findComment-2661823 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PippoX0 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Very Good ! I wanna give a try ! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/311670-how-to-play-windows-games-on-mac/#findComment-2662053 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tetonne Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 Hi Slice, Can you please share the links of last release BEst regards Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/311670-how-to-play-windows-games-on-mac/#findComment-2818804 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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