Matgen84 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 2 hours ago, Jief_Machak said: This version is the same as previous one + "Unknown" kext folder if version is not recognized (that's not supposed to happen, right ?) CloverX64-2020-11-12-10-39-28-0bbc1e3-dirty-jief.zip Thanks. @Jief_Machak The "Unknown" kext folder replace Other folder or it's in addition. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/284656-clover-general-discussion/page/986/#findComment-2743709 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jief_Machak Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 It's an addition. I wouldn't intentionally make a change like this, that can prevent boot, all of a sudden. (That doesn't mean I never made a change by mistake that prevent boot ) It's not exactly the same as "Other" anyway, because Unknown is ignored when version is known. Obvious, right ? For "Other" : When I created the possibility of having a folder "10" (which was before BS), I thought it would replaced "Other". It didn't see it coming the version 11 instead of 10.16. The plan is to add a folder "All", and keep the "Other" folder for some time with a warning at boot like "Please rename Other to All". 2 1 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/284656-clover-general-discussion/page/986/#findComment-2743710 Share on other sites More sharing options...
iCanaro Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 14 minutes ago, Jief_Machak said: Without "Other" folder ? OK done more testing by completely emptying the other folder calling the bigsur 11 folder starts correctly; if instead we nod it 11.x what doing bigsur doesn't start bigsur = 11 OK bigsur = 11.x NOK matchOS works OK debug.log 1 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/284656-clover-general-discussion/page/986/#findComment-2743711 Share on other sites More sharing options...
iCanaro Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 notes to developers: on AMD systems, but not only that, I also think of notebooks with I2C, for some kext it is very important that a certain loading order is defined. For example, on my AMD X570 AMDRyzenCPUPowerManagement.kext must be loaded before SMCAMDProcessor.kext; At the same time, AMDRyzenCPUPowerManagement.kext must be loaded after VirtualSMC.kext; but VirtualSMC is also a LILU plugin, so LILU must be at the top of the load order. All this serves for the perfect functioning and integration of the various kexts now on clover the only distinction is that the kexts in the other folder will be loaded as a priority over kexts in folders 10.xx 11 IMHO would be useful to have the ability to define load order for kexts, if not for everyone, but for some 2 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/284656-clover-general-discussion/page/986/#findComment-2743722 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris1111 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 @iCanaro Sorry I forgot the OS Clover Can you tell me if it's correct os_clover.icns.zip Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/284656-clover-general-discussion/page/986/#findComment-2743723 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slice Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 2 hours ago, Jief_Machak said: It's not exactly the same as "Other" anyway, because Unknown is ignored when version is known. Obvious, right ? Mmm-m-m... or vice versa? Unknown is used when the version is unknown? 2 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/284656-clover-general-discussion/page/986/#findComment-2743724 Share on other sites More sharing options...
iCanaro Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 10 minutes ago, chris1111 said: @iCanaro Sorry I forgot the OS Clover Can you tell me if it's correct os_clover.icns.zip I would have liked to tell you that everything is OK, but unfortunately clover icon is not loaded (must it be inserted in the icons folder, correct?!) since you are so kind and you are working on it, I would have a request, and that is the arrow of the selector, instead of being white, that you notice little, maybe do it of other color, red, yellow, green ... something you notice well with black background and other white writing Spoiler 2 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/284656-clover-general-discussion/page/986/#findComment-2743726 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jief_Machak Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, Slice said: Unknown is used when the version is unknown? Yes ! Form a rigorous logic point of view, it's "Unknown is used only when the version is unknown" Was I wrong in my double-negation ? 1 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/284656-clover-general-discussion/page/986/#findComment-2743727 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jief_Machak Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 2 hours ago, iCanaro said: OK done more testing by completely emptying the other folder calling the bigsur 11 folder starts correctly; if instead we nod it 11.x what doing bigsur doesn't start bigsur = 11 OK bigsur = 11.x NOK matchOS works OK debug.log The kext folder CANNOT be named "11.x". "11.x" is a syntax for MatchOS. kext folder names can be "11", "11.0", "11.0.1". You can also have "11_install", "11_normal", "11_recovery", "11.0_install", "11.0_normal", "11.0_recovery", "11.0.1_install", "11.0.1_normal", "11.0.1_recovery". 2 1 1 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/284656-clover-general-discussion/page/986/#findComment-2743728 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jief_Machak Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 1 hour ago, mifjpn said: Thank you Jief. As you can see in the log below, on the second boot of the installer or update No-Ver-BigSur11.0.1.log 47: 497 0:042 UniOSVersion == 47: 538 0:041 UniShortOSVersion == Will occur. I will try it with BigSur RC2. You're still using 5125. Version detection was improved. Use my latest efi : CloverX64-2020-11-12-15-13-22-0bbc1e3-dirty-jief.zip Look in your log, you should find a line starting with "GetOSVersion: " If the version number is incorrect, send me a zip of the preboot partition of the installer. 1 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/284656-clover-general-discussion/page/986/#findComment-2743730 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slice Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 13 minutes ago, Jief_Machak said: Yes ! Form a rigorous logic point of view, it's "Unknown is used only when the version is unknown" Was I wrong in my double-negation ? Double negotiation causes muddle 1 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/284656-clover-general-discussion/page/986/#findComment-2743731 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris1111 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 13 minutes ago, iCanaro said: I would have liked to tell you that everything is OK, but unfortunately clover icon is not loaded (must it be inserted in the icons folder, correct?!) since you are so kind and you are working on it, I would have a request, and that is the arrow of the selector, instead of being white, that you notice little, maybe do it of other color, red, yellow, green ... something you notice well with black background and other white writing Reveal hidden contents Thank to you I put the green selector and you can try to change os clover because I do not understand why it does not load in volume On my systems I don't have this icon which tries to load Archive.zip 1 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/284656-clover-general-discussion/page/986/#findComment-2743732 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SavageAUS Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 I had to wipe my hard drives now I cannot install macOS on my X570. Tried RC1 and RC2 with 5126. No config changes but after second reboot I get a very quick text scroll then reboot. Using install macOS via preboot. Not sure if it’s a config error or kernel patches but I’ll keep trying I guess. If anyone on X570 can post a working install config for RC1 or 2 I would appreciate it. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/284656-clover-general-discussion/page/986/#findComment-2743733 Share on other sites More sharing options...
iCanaro Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 11 minutes ago, chris1111 said: Thank to you I put the green selector and you can try to change os clover because I do not understand why it does not load in volume On my systems I don't have this icon which tries to load Archive.zip thank you, the selector is now perfect. Instead Clover icon does not want to know to be loaded, I reset the NVRAM, reloaded the theme, but nothing to do. If you have other things to do, I don't want to keep you busy for a no problem... it's not that every time you start in GUI you press F3 to see the EFI Spoiler 1 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/284656-clover-general-discussion/page/986/#findComment-2743734 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris1111 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 1 minute ago, iCanaro said: thank you, the selector is now perfect. Instead Clover icon does not want to know to be loaded, I reset the NVRAM, reloaded the theme, but nothing to do. If you have other things to do, I don't want to keep you busy for a no problem... it's not that every time you start in GUI you press F3 to see the EFI Reveal hidden contents Thank you verry much I will try to find the solution 1 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/284656-clover-general-discussion/page/986/#findComment-2743735 Share on other sites More sharing options...
iCanaro Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 16 minutes ago, SavageAUS said: I had to wipe my hard drives now I cannot install macOS on my X570. Tried RC1 and RC2 with 5126. No config changes but after second reboot I get a very quick text scroll then reboot. Using install macOS via preboot. Not sure if it’s a config error or kernel patches but I’ll keep trying I guess. If anyone on X570 can post a working install config for RC1 or 2 I would appreciate it. attach your config that i try to modify it specific to big sur installation 1 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/284656-clover-general-discussion/page/986/#findComment-2743737 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SavageAUS Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, iCanaro said: attach your config that i try to modify it specific to big sur installation This is the one i was using before prior to RC releases. config.plist Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/284656-clover-general-discussion/page/986/#findComment-2743738 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jief_Machak Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 22 minutes ago, SavageAUS said: I had to wipe my hard drives now I cannot install macOS on my X570. Tried RC1 and RC2 with 5126. No config changes but after second reboot I get a very quick text scroll then reboot. Using install macOS via preboot. Not sure if it’s a config error or kernel patches but I’ll keep trying I guess. If anyone on X570 can post a working install config for RC1 or 2 I would appreciate it. Use my latest efi, there is a better OS version detection. At Clover GUI, press space when on the installer entry to check the detected version. Do that check at each reboot. CloverX64-2020-11-12-15-57-18-0bbc1e3-dirty-jief.zip If version is not detected, send me a zip of the preboot partition, from the installer container if it's an installer entry, or from the container you installed into. 1 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/284656-clover-general-discussion/page/986/#findComment-2743741 Share on other sites More sharing options...
iCanaro Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 20 minutes ago, SavageAUS said: This is the one i was using before prior to RC releases. config.plist test config-Install_BS-SavageAUS.plist if you still have problems move other lilu weg virtualsmc/fakesmc to the other folder Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/284656-clover-general-discussion/page/986/#findComment-2743742 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris1111 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 @iCanaro maybe this work ? Icon.zip 1 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/284656-clover-general-discussion/page/986/#findComment-2743743 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jief_Machak Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 1 hour ago, iCanaro said: notes to developers: on AMD systems, but not only that, I also think of notebooks with I2C, for some kext it is very important that a certain loading order is defined. For example, on my AMD X570 AMDRyzenCPUPowerManagement.kext must be loaded before SMCAMDProcessor.kext; At the same time, AMDRyzenCPUPowerManagement.kext must be loaded after VirtualSMC.kext; but VirtualSMC is also a LILU plugin, so LILU must be at the top of the load order. All this serves for the perfect functioning and integration of the various kexts now on clover the only distinction is that the kexts in the other folder will be loaded as a priority over kexts in folders 10.xx 11 IMHO would be useful to have the ability to define load order for kexts, if not for everyone, but for some When can put this kext in the hard coded order list. (please everybody, don't start with "it's bad to hard code, etc."). 1 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/284656-clover-general-discussion/page/986/#findComment-2743744 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SavageAUS Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 9 minutes ago, iCanaro said: test config-Install_BS-SavageAUS.plist if you still have problems move other lilu weg virtualsmc/fakesmc to the other folder Thanks I’ll give that a try when I can and report back. Updating my laptop now to RC2 and all going well so far. @Jief_Machak pressing space bar detected version as 11.0.1 on intel laptop on 2nd reboot. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/284656-clover-general-discussion/page/986/#findComment-2743745 Share on other sites More sharing options...
iCanaro Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 11 minutes ago, chris1111 said: @iCanaro maybe this work ? Icon.zip it's really a real naughty this icon Spoiler 1 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/284656-clover-general-discussion/page/986/#findComment-2743746 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris1111 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, iCanaro said: it's really a real naughty this icon Reveal hidden contents Thanks another BS Mystery Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/284656-clover-general-discussion/page/986/#findComment-2743748 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jief_Machak Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 2 hours ago, iCanaro said: notes to developers: on AMD systems, but not only that, I also think of notebooks with I2C, for some kext it is very important that a certain loading order is defined. For example, on my AMD X570 AMDRyzenCPUPowerManagement.kext must be loaded before SMCAMDProcessor.kext; At the same time, AMDRyzenCPUPowerManagement.kext must be loaded after VirtualSMC.kext; but VirtualSMC is also a LILU plugin, so LILU must be at the top of the load order. All this serves for the perfect functioning and integration of the various kexts now on clover the only distinction is that the kexts in the other folder will be loaded as a priority over kexts in folders 10.xx 11 IMHO would be useful to have the ability to define load order for kexts, if not for everyone, but for some Ok, I've added AMDRyzenCPUPowerManagement.kext and SMCAMDProcessor.kext in the list. AMDRyzenCPUPowerManagement will be loaded after VirtualSMC, and SMCAMDProcessor after AMDRyzenCPUPowerManagement. CloverX64-2020-11-12-16-50-51-0bbc1e3-dirty-jief.zip 2 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/284656-clover-general-discussion/page/986/#findComment-2743750 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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