Same-sex marriage and politics. What say you?

[BMC6053]

wildcat69410 - FYI .. I do know what i'm talking about. There is no point trying to talk to someone who is as faithfull as you (you cannot listen as your ears are filled with the word of god eh).

[killbot1000]

we should all become {censored}!, being strait is a mental disorder, a medical problem that needs to be fixed, strait people dont stay together, they dont understand commitment, {censored} people do.

 

Im just reversing the roles to prove a point heheh

[Jeezoflip]

Im straight and i can care less. If {censored}/{censored} people wanna get married, let them. Love is love, and...yeah. Its not like they are bothering me, so let them do what they want. I dont see why theres so much god damn hate in the world. Its stupid.

[wildcat69410]

Im straight and i can care less. If {censored}/{censored} people wanna get married, let them. Love is love,

 

Obviously love is love, but {censored} Marriage isn't Marriage. That's the issue here.

 

and...yeah. Its not like they are bothering me, so let them do what they want. I dont see why theres so much god damn hate in the world. Its stupid.

 

Well it's fairly obvious that it doesn't bother you, or else you wouldn't be against it. And there's so much hate in this world when people just disagree with you on a subject. That's just pure hate. Saying that {censored} Marriage isn't what Marriage is supposed to be isn't hate, it's an opinion. It's not even a hateful opinion.

 

The only thing stupid here is your post, at the very least put some effort into checking for grammatical errors.

[killbot1000]

Obviously love is love, but {censored} Marriage isn't Marriage. That's the issue here.

Well it's fairly obvious that it doesn't bother you, or else you wouldn't be against it. And there's so much hate in this world when people just disagree with you on a subject. That's just pure hate. Saying that {censored} Marriage isn't what Marriage is supposed to be isn't hate, it's an opinion. It's not even a hateful opinion.

 

The only thing stupid here is your post, at the very least put some effort into checking for grammatical errors.

 

 

If youre arguing on the grounds that it cant be marriage because thats not the definition of marriage then our version of marriage today has no merit either, since marriage was originally about a man taking ownership of a woman, we certainly dont think that now, (atleast I hope not), so why do we still call it marriage? Because the definition has changed overtime, this is just the next step in the human condition.

 

Rock on!

[Jeezoflip]

Obviously love is love, but {censored} Marriage isn't Marriage. That's the issue here.

Well it's fairly obvious that it doesn't bother you, or else you wouldn't be against it. And there's so much hate in this world when people just disagree with you on a subject. That's just pure hate. Saying that {censored} Marriage isn't what Marriage is supposed to be isn't hate, it's an opinion. It's not even a hateful opinion.

 

The only thing stupid here is your post, at the very least put some effort into checking for grammatical errors.

 

 

What are you, my High School English teacher? In all honesty I don’t care what you have to say or what your opinion is. Now to prove you wrong would be satire and foolish of me, but in this case, I see it perfectly acceptable. First of all, before you go posting your stupid posts, why dont you look up a word or two. Marriage by deffenition is a legally recognized relationship, established by a civil or religious ceremony, between two people who intend to live together as sexual and domestic partners. Correct me if im wrong (which I'm not), but where does it say anything about marriage having to be between a man and a women. It just says two spouses which can be two men, two women - two cows if you will.

 

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[kday]

I'm sick of all this marriage talk. Screw marriage. I am going to become Muslim and get myself a harem. Now that is where it's at.

[killbot1000]

Ill probably get married. but it will only be an afterthought, its kind of an outdated thing to me...

[wildcat69410]

What are you, my High School English teacher? In all honesty I don’t care what you have to say or what your opinion is.

 

That's what makes your post entirely pointless. If you don't care what I say, then why do you even attempt to make another senseless "point" of yours. You just prove nothing, especially with the {censored} you type out.

 

Now to prove you wrong would be satire and foolish of me

 

Don't worry, the readers of the thread already know how foolish you are, and if they don't, I'm sure you will conveniently give another example of a foolish post the next time you choose to log on.

 

 

First of all, before you go posting your stupid posts, why dont you look up a word or two. Marriage by deffenition is a legally recognized relationship, established by a civil or religious ceremony, between two people who intend to live together as sexual and domestic partners. Correct me if im wrong (which I'm not), but where does it say anything about marriage having to be between a man and a women.

 

Oh, don't worry, I'll correct you fairly easily. Funny how you never mention where you get your amazing definition from. Oddly enough, probably not from anywhere. You just pulled it out of your ass, admit it. How's this, Black's Law Dictionary, which is accepted as a definition in the US Court System, defines marriage as:

 

"Marriage, as distinguished from the agreement to marry and from the act of becoming married, is the legal status, condition, or relation of one man and one woman united in law for life, or until divorced, for the discharge to each other and the community of the duties legally incumbent on those whose association is founded on the distinction of sex. A contract, according to the form prescribed by law, by which a man and a woman capable of entering into such contract, mutually engage with each other to live their whole lives (or until divorced) together in state of union which ought to exist between a husband and wife."

 

Hmm, before you start posting {censored}, why don't you at least understand the words your talking about. Apparently, you don't understand marriage or definition, or looked up marriage at www.gaymarriage.com.

 

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[RobNyc]

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[Swad]

I'm pretty sure there's been some self censoring happening in this thread (as in, posting then deleting your post after someone responds)... but the problem is that there shouldn't be any need for censoring.

 

Keep the posts clean and non-name calling. All views are welcomed - remember, tolerance extends boths ways.

[Alessandro17]

Regardless of what was said in this old thread, the poll results prove that the vast majority of people in this forum are a tolerant bunch (thus the very few ones who say that homosexuality is filth are a tiny minority).

[apowerr]

Regardless of what was said in this old thread, the poll results prove that the vast majority of people in this forum are a tolerant bunch (thus the very few ones who say that homosexuality is filth are a tiny minority).

This thread is a dinosaur! Just think, when this thread was started iPhones were unheard of (a better time)!

 

I support same-sex marriage, the government shouldn't deny people of marriage.

[Alessandro17]

This thread is a dinosaur! Just think, when this thread was started iPhones were unheard of (a better time)!

 

Yes I know, and I expected such a comment, but I really wanted to say what I wrote. I was linked to this thread from:

 

http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=23240

 

I support same-sex marriage, the government shouldn't deny people of marriage.

 

Good, I wish the Italian politicians felt the same way.

[socal swimmer]

Denying someone the right to marry the person they love (with the other person's consent) is wrong, and goes against human rights.

 

Those arguments about it leading to marrying children, and dogs etc are so flawed its not even funny.

 

The ONLY reason there is any resistance is due to the church.

 

and we are supposed to have separation of church and state....

[JonTheSavage]

Denying someone the right to marry the person they love (with the other person's consent) is wrong, and goes against human rights.

 

Those arguments about it leading to marrying children, and dogs etc are so flawed its not even funny.

 

The ONLY reason there is any resistance is due to the church.

 

and we are supposed to have separation of church and state....

 

This is a state issue. Not a national issue. Congress's decision should be overturned, and sent back to state's rights. The same with Roe Vs. Wade. Most of these types of things can be solved by overturning them, and sending them back to the state itself. That allows the liberals to do what they want, and conservatives to do what they wish. Us liberatarians get what we wanted in the first place by returning the rights back to the ones that want it.

[e-rick]

Allright, you're a Christian, we get it. And you believe that Christianity and the bible are the sources of all morality in this world.

The thing is, this is historically incorrect. In acient Greece there were 'laws' and morals quite similar to the ones still incorporated in most western constitutions today. In many of the old civilizations (China, Egypt) there excisted similar ground rules.

These morals you are talking about were there long before the Bible was written, the bible was ‘used’ to spread these morals even more.

Atheists are abusive? Criticizing intelligence. Here I could get some examples from more or less recent history in which Christians weren’t exactly nice to people of other beliefs, but let’s not. It’s too easy and not relevant at these times.

If I say that god does not exist, that the bible was cooked up by a Roman emperor to get more control over his people, that Jezus was a fraudulent populist, am I insulting you?

These are some things I believe are true. There are more or less supported by factual evidence. By implying all of today’s morals are derived from the Bible and portraying the bible as a factual representation of history YOU are insulting the intelligence of a lot of people. In telling me there is a god you are clearly telling me my reasoning that there isn’t one is wrong, therefore you are criticizing my ability to reason and with that my intelligence.

[gwprod12]

Maybe {censored}-marriage ISN'T such a bad idea.

 

E-rick: Do you wanna get {censored}-married to me?

[apowerr]

This is a state issue. Not a national issue. Congress's decision should be overturned, and sent back to state's rights. The same with Roe Vs. Wade. Most of these types of things can be solved by overturning them, and sending them back to the state itself.

I agree completely! The needs of North Carolina are very different than the needs of Nevada. So many things (education, {censored} rights etc) shouldn't be regulated on a Federal Level. Even so, I support same-sex marriage.

[FUKKU]

if both are consenting human adults and the marriage isn't going to harm anybody, why not

[socal swimmer]

if both are consenting human adults and the marriage isn't going to harm anybody, why not

 

you could even shorten that to:

 

"If both consent, and it harms no one else". Technically, no one under 18 (depending on national laws) can consent. Non-humans can't consent either.

 

This rules out every major argument against {censored} marraige (that it leads to underage marraige, or bestiality, or incest).

 

Even though those arguments are retarded in the first place.

[Alessandro17]

This rules out every major argument against {censored} marraige (that it leads to underage marraige, or bestiality, or incest).

 

Even though those arguments are retarded in the first place.

 

Exactly. And it is a big question mark if 2 people of the same gender can really commit incest.

[gwprod12]

A same sex couple can commit incest... there's just no good reason for incest to be illegal between same-sex couples. LOL.

[socal swimmer]

lol

 

I meant it as a response to this argument:

 

Well, if we expand the definition of marraige to allow two men, or two women to get married, then what is stopping us from allowing people to marry dogs, or kids, or their siblings (of opposite gender)?

 

the response: common sense, though most don't understand that one.

[3nigma]

Well, if we expand the definition of marraige to allow two men, or two women to get married, then what is stopping us from allowing people to marry dogs, or kids, or their siblings (of opposite gender)?

 

the response: common sense, though most don't understand that one.

Actually, you can't use "common sense," because "common sense" proves the opposite:

 

Men have weewees, women have hoohoos.

 

Weewees fit inside hoohoos perfectly, a nice match.

Hoohoos can't work well with each other, there needs to be something that gets up inside. They have to use or fashion a rudimentary object to be a fake weewee to stick up in the hoohoo.

Weewees don't work well with each other, 'cause they just bang into each other like lightsabers. They have to stick the weewee in the "out"-hole for it to work, and that's just icky.

 

You know, "common" sense isn't so common.

 

-3nigma