RiceTea Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 The next generation of Intel processors starting with the Conroe is probably due July/August or so. I have heard the Conroe will be designed for the 775 socket. Will it work in any of the mobos with Intel 945 chipsets? The 945 chipset mobos already support dual processors, is there a chance? BTW., I think it is quite clear that the Conroe will be the CPU of the first Intel-based powermacs. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/17281-new-intel-processors-eg-conroe-which-mobos-do-they-need/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiceTea Posted May 12, 2006 Author Share Posted May 12, 2006 http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/mainboards/di...0425175704.html Looks as if even owners of current 975 chipset boards are in trouble. Hence, the 945 chipset is probably out of the Conroe game. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/17281-new-intel-processors-eg-conroe-which-mobos-do-they-need/#findComment-111593 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bofors Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 See this as well: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=95449 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/17281-new-intel-processors-eg-conroe-which-mobos-do-they-need/#findComment-111597 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiceTea Posted May 12, 2006 Author Share Posted May 12, 2006 Thx for the link. I suppose the new Conroes will be pretty expensive in the beginning anyway. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/17281-new-intel-processors-eg-conroe-which-mobos-do-they-need/#findComment-111609 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bofors Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 Actually, I do not think they look to bad, about $315 for the one I would chose (but I am more likely to build with Woodcrest instead): The E6700, which is a 2.67GHz chip with 4MB of cache and a 1066 front side bus will cost $529 while the E6600, a 2.40GHz version will cost $315. The other two members of the Intel Cointreau family have 2MB of cache apiece, with the E6400 (2.13GHz) costing $240, while the E6300 (1.86GHz) will cost $210. http://theinquirer.net/?article=31126 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/17281-new-intel-processors-eg-conroe-which-mobos-do-they-need/#findComment-111623 Share on other sites More sharing options...
muxion Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 Yeah, I wonder if the Connie's shared cache is going to make a real difference in OSX86. The prices will go down after a while, and the early adopters will find the bugs in the mobos. I sure hope that new OSX versions will remain "accessible" to us in the future. Props to all you "genius" coders, decrypters, hackers, etc. that help us "git our mac on"!!!!!!!!!! I just visited the Mac store in our mall, and that big ol' aluminum laptop didn't really impress me. It was kinda slow for $2800. It seemed my Celeron D 336 was about as fast! I guess it didn't help that my salesperson didn't know much. He probably doesn't read this forum!! The Dell boys at the kiosk just outside Apple were a lot sharper, but they just don't have OSX86. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/17281-new-intel-processors-eg-conroe-which-mobos-do-they-need/#findComment-111862 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiceTea Posted May 13, 2006 Author Share Posted May 13, 2006 Yep, Macbook Pro with 1.83 GHz just scores 53 in XBench, many OSX86 installations posted here are a lot snappier. I just visited the Mac store in our mall, and that big ol' aluminum laptop didn't really impress me. It was kinda slow for $2800. It seemed my Celeron D 336 was about as fast! I guess it didn't help that my salesperson didn't know much. He probably doesn't read this forum!! The Dell boys at the kiosk just outside Apple were a lot sharper, but they just don't have OSX86. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/17281-new-intel-processors-eg-conroe-which-mobos-do-they-need/#findComment-112003 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiceTea Posted June 7, 2006 Author Share Posted June 7, 2006 The first (?) Conroe-compatible mobo from Asus is the P5B with Intel P965/iCH8 chipset. The next generation of Intel processors starting with the Conroe is probably due July/August or so. I have heard the Conroe will be designed for the 775 socket. Will it work in any of the mobos with Intel 945 chipsets? The 945 chipset mobos already support dual processors, is there a chance? BTW., I think it is quite clear that the Conroe will be the CPU of the first Intel-based powermacs. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/17281-new-intel-processors-eg-conroe-which-mobos-do-they-need/#findComment-126240 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aberracus Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 mmmm until now we have been having problems with the new processors, cause we are using the kernel wich was BIOS compatiblem and it only "knows" about Pentium M anbd Pentium 4 and celerons, but it didnt know anything about CoreDuo, why do you think the new processor will be recgnized by our old Kernel? just wondering... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/17281-new-intel-processors-eg-conroe-which-mobos-do-they-need/#findComment-126353 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bofors Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 I think we will have some problems with the new processors as well. Hmm... yet another reason to work on EFI. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/17281-new-intel-processors-eg-conroe-which-mobos-do-they-need/#findComment-126360 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayland Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 I think we will have some problems with the new processors as well. Hmm... yet another reason to work on EFI. I heard that the new chipset, 965 (I may have that wrong, I don't remember) and 975 will work with the chip. I was reading an article on Toms-Hardware. I may be wrong, but I can't seem to find the article again. Of course if that is true I would assume that also means a bios update. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/17281-new-intel-processors-eg-conroe-which-mobos-do-they-need/#findComment-126693 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bofors Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 That's right the 965 and 975 work with Conroe. However, apparently not all 975 boards do, specifically only revision "304" and later of Intel's D975XBX is supposed to support Conroe. However, revision "302" can be modified to support Conroe: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=99298 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/17281-new-intel-processors-eg-conroe-which-mobos-do-they-need/#findComment-126755 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aberracus Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 Anyway if we dont crack EFI we will not have anything... our old kernel can't suport them, like CoreDuos now. Its not a problem with the mainboard, its the processor. How is the Efix86 doing? have been there days ago and i noted very good ppl working there. Cheers! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/17281-new-intel-processors-eg-conroe-which-mobos-do-they-need/#findComment-126805 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bofors Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 I think the MacEFIx86 project is off to a decent start, but things really are just getting started. We are attracting some talented people to the need and also raising the priority of EFI in community, so I guess I am happy with the progress so far. But we need more people who can actually do the hard work and make things happen. It seems clear the EFI is right next to the kernal is a lot of ways. Once we have some kind of Mac-like EFI firmware environment running, which I think we are months away from, then we have to deal with the kernel which is apparently patch for BIOS, not EFI. Whether is for EFI itself, for the new Intel chips or Leopard (OS X 10.5), the OSx86 community will be re-hacking the kernel and that might take a long time. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/17281-new-intel-processors-eg-conroe-which-mobos-do-they-need/#findComment-126823 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuruu Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 Anyway if we dont crack EFI we will not have anything... our old kernel can't suport them, like CoreDuos now. Its not a problem with the mainboard, its the processor. I don't know if you guys have seen this, but someone has already had osx86 running on a core2duo. t-break Are you referring to taking advantage or new features of the core2duo's like virtualisation? (can't think of any other new features that coud affected by the kernel....) Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/17281-new-intel-processors-eg-conroe-which-mobos-do-they-need/#findComment-151222 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EtherealRemnant Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 If you look though, it looks as though SSE3 has been disabled to run the OS. I didn't ever have any real problems with my AMD after the AMD patches came so I don't remember too much about the details but most of the dualcores required SSE3 emulation to run and/or one core disabled. Looks like both cores are fully functional on that one though. Hmm. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/17281-new-intel-processors-eg-conroe-which-mobos-do-they-need/#findComment-151332 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeSuKuN Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 http://www.giga-byte.com/Products/Motherbo...GA-8I945GZME-RH really cheap (64€) and core 2 duo support, gma950, RAID, gigabit, SATA II. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/17281-new-intel-processors-eg-conroe-which-mobos-do-they-need/#findComment-151336 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 What about the ASRock 775i945GZ?? The ASRock website seems to say 'Conroe compatible' but the FSB seems to be limited to 800. Perhaps a BIOS update?? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/17281-new-intel-processors-eg-conroe-which-mobos-do-they-need/#findComment-151346 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiceTea Posted July 28, 2006 Author Share Posted July 28, 2006 The 945GZ chipsets seem to be limited to an 800 Mhz FSB. What about the ASRock 775i945GZ?? The ASRock website seems to say 'Conroe compatible' but the FSB seems to be limited to 800. Perhaps a BIOS update?? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/17281-new-intel-processors-eg-conroe-which-mobos-do-they-need/#findComment-151373 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeSuKuN Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 the gigabyte that I posted also supports up to 800mhz fsb, can a 1066mhz fsb CPU be in this mobos? or do we need 800mhz conroes¿? (theres none yet) Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/17281-new-intel-processors-eg-conroe-which-mobos-do-they-need/#findComment-151435 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiceTea Posted July 29, 2006 Author Share Posted July 29, 2006 the gigabyte that I posted also supports up to 800mhz fsb, can a 1066mhz fsb CPU be in this mobos? or do we need 800mhz conroes¿? (theres none yet) I don´t have the answers yet. However, the latest layout of the Asus P5LD2-VM, widely used for OSX86 installations, supports the Core 2 Dual (Conroe) as well, has still the 945G chipset and runs with a 1066 MHz FSB. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/17281-new-intel-processors-eg-conroe-which-mobos-do-they-need/#findComment-151770 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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