slashack Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 Last update: 11/12/2008 Basically, the problem is when you have more than 3 gb of ram (some says 2.5 gb) and AppleVIAATA, JMicronATA, AppleNForceATA or AppleATIATA driver. In my case, I've got 2 IDE HDD and when I upgraded to 4 gb of ram, my desktop started to freeze, or give kernel panics (AppleVIAATA). After some hours of googling and looking for the driver to solve my issue, i finally made a custom driver that made it. The problem was that AppleVIAATA driver used 32 bits addresses to make DMA. In an environment with 4 gb of ram, you need 64 bits addresses. I've rewritten some code so that this kext uses a kernel api which supports 64 bits. I think the problem is solved. To generate kernel panics, i used Rember to test all memory, and while this was running, i started to browse mi IDE hdd. After rewriting the driver, i had no more panics! FAQ: 1- DOES THIS MEAN THE BUG IS SOLVED? Old answer: NO! Need testing, i've finished 30 minutes ago and i couldn't test it as much as needed to say it works fine. New answer: It seems so. 2- IS IT A REPLACEMENT FOR APPLEVIAATA.KEXT? Old answer: NO! It only solved my IDE problems (I removed some PCIID from Info.plist) New answer: Yes, it is. 3- CAN I HAVE THE SOURCE CODE TO KEEP DEVELOPMENT? Old answer: YES! Just tell me where can i upload it (svn like google code) without any legal violation. New answer: There's a googlecode svn project here: darwin-ata. You may check out and get the source. If you want to be part of the development team (or whatever the name of the people who are trying to make this work is) just PM me. Try to add some info so i can check if u are going to benefit this development or not. 4- DO YOU KNOW HOW TO WRITE IN ENGLISH? Old answer: NO! I've done such an effort to write this post that i think i'm loosing my mind. New answer: I'm finishing my degree in computer sciences, not english, the answer is still NO. 5- WHAT KEXT SHOULD I DOWNLOAD? ONLY ANWSER: The ones that doesn't have the word DEBUG in their names. 6- WHY NOT DEBUG KEXTS? They are for DEBUGGING. Use them if and only if i tell u to do it. First warning. 7- HOW DO I REPORT A NON WORKING KEXT? 1: boot with -v debug=0x100 at darwin prompt 2: make a dump with ioreg -l > dump.txt 3: after having a panic, take a picture of the screenshot (I need to read every character, so make sure the screen fits the picture) 4: atach dump.txt and the picture of the screen into this topic and wait for my answer (sometimes other users might help) 8- I HAVE LOTS OF INFO DISPLAYED ON BOOT AND LOGS. LOTS AND LOTS OF INFO EVERY SECOND. WHAT'S GOING ON? RTFF. You've been warned. If you need some help, or have some comments, or find some bugs, just post in this thread. Here's what we've got so far: JMicronATA: v0.6 Working AppleVIAATA: v0.2 Working AppleNForceATA: v0.1 Working (?). Some may have issues with DVD drives. Some may have issues with voodoo kernel AppleATIATA: v0.1 Not tested, waiting. stmiller has compiled these kexts with Tiger (10.4.8) in case someone is using 10.4. He only tested AppleVIAATA.kext. DON'T USE DEBUG KEXTS UNLESS I TELL YOU TO DO IT. This is the second and last warning. Downloads: All the kexts here! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/127611-appleviaata-over-4gb-ram-bug-solved-at-least-i-believe-so-jmicron-and-applenforceata-at-development/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portos61 Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 I have the same problem, desktop freeze, and i decide to remove this kext. Now this problem is solved and I reinstall it. Thanks P.S.: Why the file dimension is more less than original and there isn't the "Resources" dir ? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/127611-appleviaata-over-4gb-ram-bug-solved-at-least-i-believe-so-jmicron-and-applenforceata-at-development/#findComment-902451 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch_de Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 Would be fine if someone tries that for JMICRON.kext also . Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/127611-appleviaata-over-4gb-ram-bug-solved-at-least-i-believe-so-jmicron-and-applenforceata-at-development/#findComment-904687 Share on other sites More sharing options...
slashack Posted September 25, 2008 Author Share Posted September 25, 2008 Would be fine if someone tries that for JMICRON.kext also . Is there any source code? What version are you using? I need some info (i don't have a JMicron ide controller to see what's happening) to see if the problem is more or less the same. If the cause is the same, i can fix try and fix it. Is there anyone with a JMicron chipset that can send me a brief of what's happening? Start with -v debug=0x100 at darwin bootloader and send me a dump of the kernel panic or at least a photo of the screen. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/127611-appleviaata-over-4gb-ram-bug-solved-at-least-i-believe-so-jmicron-and-applenforceata-at-development/#findComment-905005 Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinkou Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 I've installed your fixed extension - it works. No more crashes. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/127611-appleviaata-over-4gb-ram-bug-solved-at-least-i-believe-so-jmicron-and-applenforceata-at-development/#findComment-908247 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SisXtian Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 I was hoping this would work for my system, but I may have screwed it up even more. At first I was trying -Dune-'s AppleIntelPIIXATA.kext and removing the AppleVIAATA.kext. This didn't solve my panic problem and so I tried this one. Now I have removed the JMicro.kext and I get a circle with a slash through it when I try to boot into OSX. I've had my install of the iATKOS v2.0i Leopard 10.5.2 working for several months now. But from the beginning, it's given me a kernel panic whenever more than 2GB is saved out (like exporting video in Quicktime Pro). It's not that it has a problem with large files. I don't know if I need a new kext for the IDE controller or what. This panic does NOT show up when I transfer to an external firewire drive, though. I've transferred over 500GB to that drive in OSX. It's only when files are utilized by my OSX system drive (an IDE drive). I've done a lot of research about this problem, but I'm not really sure how to narrow down what's causing it on my system (memory issue, HDD issue, etc). I'm a little unsure about the process of using kexthelper, terminal, and rebuilding permissions, and what order all that needs to happen in order to insure that kexts are injected properly. It's all making my head spin. Here are my hardware specs in hopes that someone can offer a suggestion for what I need to do. iATKOS v2.0i Leopard 10.5.2 GA-P35-DS3L Mobo 8GB RAM (OSX recognizes all of it) Core 2 Quad Intel processor NVidia quadro FX 370 30GB Western Digital IDE Master HDD (running OSX) 80GB Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 IDE Slave HDD (running Windows XP) Intel ICH9 Serial ATA storage controller Let me know if there's any other info needed. Thanks for any help. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/127611-appleviaata-over-4gb-ram-bug-solved-at-least-i-believe-so-jmicron-and-applenforceata-at-development/#findComment-914712 Share on other sites More sharing options...
slashack Posted October 2, 2008 Author Share Posted October 2, 2008 I think your problem is the same as mine, but with other driver. My issue was that whenever osx used over 2/3 GB of ram and used an IDE drive, it crashed. How to test for this? 1- Boot with -v and debug=0x100. (At darwin bootloader when osx starts, press any key and at boot prompt type "-v debug=0x100" without quotes) 2- Run rember (its a little program to test memory, download it) and test all memory. 3- Wait a while till rember starts testing, and start trying to open files in your ide. 4- If it panics, send me a photo of the screen (u should see some text written) Also, open a terminal and type ioreg -l > dump.txt and send me that file (dump.txt). This could help you to determine if AppleVIAAta.kext or JMicron.kext are the problematic ones. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/127611-appleviaata-over-4gb-ram-bug-solved-at-least-i-believe-so-jmicron-and-applenforceata-at-development/#findComment-914764 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch_de Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 Hi, the max RAM using IDE is 3 GB or only 2 GB ? I will have 4 GB soon and will set at boottime by kernelflag to a max 3072 . Is that correct or is the max (for no problems) 2048 ? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/127611-appleviaata-over-4gb-ram-bug-solved-at-least-i-believe-so-jmicron-and-applenforceata-at-development/#findComment-917316 Share on other sites More sharing options...
psychonaut Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 Thanks. Works perfect. No locks ups at all so far. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/127611-appleviaata-over-4gb-ram-bug-solved-at-least-i-believe-so-jmicron-and-applenforceata-at-development/#findComment-918271 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SisXtian Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 It was the IDE. I actually just used a IDE-to-SATA adapter I had laying around. Plugged the IDE into my mobo SATA port. No more panics. Thanks for the help! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/127611-appleviaata-over-4gb-ram-bug-solved-at-least-i-believe-so-jmicron-and-applenforceata-at-development/#findComment-919173 Share on other sites More sharing options...
adusak Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 Hi have problems with jmicron controller but only with my PATA drive SATA works fine. I get panic only if i use PATA drive and if i delete jmicron kext i dont see my PATA drive but i get no panics. I include pictures of the screen and dump.txt dump.txt Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/127611-appleviaata-over-4gb-ram-bug-solved-at-least-i-believe-so-jmicron-and-applenforceata-at-development/#findComment-921554 Share on other sites More sharing options...
slashack Posted October 7, 2008 Author Share Posted October 7, 2008 Hi have problems with jmicron controller but only with my PATA drive SATA works fine. I get panic only if i use PATA drive and if i delete jmicron kext i dont see my PATA drive but i get no panics. I include pictures of the screen and dump.txt Thanks! That´s the same issue, i´ll try and correct it today or tomorrow. Wait for my post. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/127611-appleviaata-over-4gb-ram-bug-solved-at-least-i-believe-so-jmicron-and-applenforceata-at-development/#findComment-921627 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embio Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 nothing like progress! thanks mate Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/127611-appleviaata-over-4gb-ram-bug-solved-at-least-i-believe-so-jmicron-and-applenforceata-at-development/#findComment-921758 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfuilrez Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 I would like to say, that I will wait patiently for your modified JMicron.kext, and if you would like you have a tester in me Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/127611-appleviaata-over-4gb-ram-bug-solved-at-least-i-believe-so-jmicron-and-applenforceata-at-development/#findComment-921984 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volcacius Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 AppleNForceATA.kext (http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=77071) has exacly the same problem! It randomly freezes with 4gb and I always have to boot with maxmem=2048. I booted with debug=0x100 and saw that the error is related to this kext. Would love to use 4gb ram, do you think that it can be fixed? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/127611-appleviaata-over-4gb-ram-bug-solved-at-least-i-believe-so-jmicron-and-applenforceata-at-development/#findComment-922402 Share on other sites More sharing options...
slashack Posted October 8, 2008 Author Share Posted October 8, 2008 Hi have problems with jmicron controller but only with my PATA drive SATA works fine. I get panic only if i use PATA drive and if i delete jmicron kext i dont see my PATA drive but i get no panics. I include pictures of the screen and dump.txt I think the problem is solved, test them and in case they don't work, send me more pictures (with the debugging kext). I cannot test them, i don't have that hw. AppleNForceATA.kext (http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=77071) has exacly the same problem! It randomly freezes with 4gb and I always have to boot with maxmem=2048. I booted with debug=0x100 and saw that the error is related to this kext. Would love to use 4gb ram, do you think that it can be fixed? If the problem is the same as JMicron and AppleVIA, i can solve it, send me screen photos of your kernel panic booting with -v debug=0x100. Try to include the whole screen. In the first line you can see where the problem is. If the problem is using 32 bits addresses in stead of using 64 bit, i could try and fix it. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/127611-appleviaata-over-4gb-ram-bug-solved-at-least-i-believe-so-jmicron-and-applenforceata-at-development/#findComment-922646 Share on other sites More sharing options...
adusak Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 I think the problem is solved, test them and in case they don't work, send me more pictures (with the debugging kext). I cannot test them, i don't have that hw. I just installed your kexts using the kexthelper and after restart my PATA hdd is not found and when the system boots with -v there is no reference to jmicron as it always was with the original kext. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/127611-appleviaata-over-4gb-ram-bug-solved-at-least-i-believe-so-jmicron-and-applenforceata-at-development/#findComment-922675 Share on other sites More sharing options...
slashack Posted October 8, 2008 Author Share Posted October 8, 2008 I just installed your kexts using the kexthelper and after restart my PATA hdd is not found and when the system boots with -v there is no reference to jmicron as it always was with the original kext. Can you post your old JMicron kext Info.plist? Try booting with -v -f debug=0x100 The driver is not loading for some reason. 1 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/127611-appleviaata-over-4gb-ram-bug-solved-at-least-i-believe-so-jmicron-and-applenforceata-at-development/#findComment-922680 Share on other sites More sharing options...
adusak Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 I will post the info.plist as soon as i can. But I payed extra attention during reboot and i saw some error i think it was couldn't alloc class="JmicronATAPIroot" Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/127611-appleviaata-over-4gb-ram-bug-solved-at-least-i-believe-so-jmicron-and-applenforceata-at-development/#findComment-922777 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfuilrez Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 I will post the info.plist as soon as i can. But I payed extra attention during reboot and i saw some error i think it was couldn't alloc class="JmicronATAPIroot" I can confirm this. I just installed the JMicronATA.kext and had the same issue at boot up. I'm going to try the Debug kext, and see if that gives the same error during boot up. I'll see if I can get a photo of it this time as well. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/127611-appleviaata-over-4gb-ram-bug-solved-at-least-i-believe-so-jmicron-and-applenforceata-at-development/#findComment-923198 Share on other sites More sharing options...
slashack Posted October 9, 2008 Author Share Posted October 9, 2008 I can confirm this. I just installed the JMicronATA.kext and had the same issue at boot up. I'm going to try the Debug kext, and see if that gives the same error during boot up. I'll see if I can get a photo of it this time as well. I've uploaded two new kext with modified Info.plist. If this doesn't work, i think well have to start by compiling original kext from source and try if that works. (the problem may be in the source code i've got to start working with. If anyone finds the source code, please send it to me.) Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/127611-appleviaata-over-4gb-ram-bug-solved-at-least-i-believe-so-jmicron-and-applenforceata-at-development/#findComment-923223 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfuilrez Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 I just tried the new kext (At least, I think it is if you updated the link in the first post). Same problem as with the last one. Couldn't Alloc Class. If you need me to compile from source or whatever let me know, and I can see what I can do to help. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/127611-appleviaata-over-4gb-ram-bug-solved-at-least-i-believe-so-jmicron-and-applenforceata-at-development/#findComment-923237 Share on other sites More sharing options...
slashack Posted October 9, 2008 Author Share Posted October 9, 2008 I just tried the new kext (At least, I think it is if you updated the link in the first post). Same problem as with the last one. Couldn't Alloc Class. If you need me to compile from source or whatever let me know, and I can see what I can do to help. This kext is the original (from the source Dense gave to me), try this. If this is a problem, then the source i'm working with has something wrong. JMicronATA.kext Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/127611-appleviaata-over-4gb-ram-bug-solved-at-least-i-believe-so-jmicron-and-applenforceata-at-development/#findComment-923250 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfuilrez Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 This one didn't work as well. However I noticed 2 more error messages, that I'm not sure if they were there with the other 2. Don't have time to replace kexts and test again until this afternoon though. Full errors were: can't determine immediate dependencies for com.jmicron.JMicronATA can't determine dependencies for com.jmicron.JMicronATA can't alloc class="JMicronATAPIroot" At least, those are them to the best of my knowledge Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/127611-appleviaata-over-4gb-ram-bug-solved-at-least-i-believe-so-jmicron-and-applenforceata-at-development/#findComment-923488 Share on other sites More sharing options...
adusak Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 Ok i just got a working JmicronATA.kext form JMICRON ftp. It still has the RAM problem but at least it loads. So you can try modify this one hope this will help. JMicronATA.kext.zip Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/127611-appleviaata-over-4gb-ram-bug-solved-at-least-i-believe-so-jmicron-and-applenforceata-at-development/#findComment-923737 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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