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The point that you feel you need to explain this proves my point

No it doesn't. I brought up what I did so that there would be no misunderstanding about him. It had nothing to do with him not being muslim. If you had said that he was 300 pounds I would have corrected that also. Too much biased misinformation being posted on the net. I don't care who people vote for. If they are so prejudiced and ignorant that they won't vote for a good man because he is 'this' or 'that' - then that reflects THEIR bad character, not his. I just think it's a shame that some people seem to care more about their 'party' then they do for what's in this countries best interest.

Maxintosh, I raised the question and consider it a valid one because I'm sure that is what this thread was created to discuss.

 

How long did it take Islam and their oil money to find a candidate for President of the United States?

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...a candidate who changes his American name of Barry to the Muslim name of Barack Hussein Obama

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I raised the question and consider it a valid one because I'm sure that is what this thread was created to discuss.

I understand that Mebster :) However the original poster obviously posted that article to provoke a reaction. Maybe they are immature, or maybe they just had bad judgement, but every rational adult that I know would have simply deleted that e-mail and moved on, instead of repeating it on the net :rolleyes: Nothing in that letter that's posted is true. It's all based on half-truths and lies. Obama has NOTHING to do with Islam, so the first sentence that you re-posted above is a flat out lie. The second sentence is also not true because his name was NEVER really 'barry'. That was simply a nick name that he was called as a child ...like scooter, or buddy or whatever. He understandably got tired of being called a childs nick name in college, and so he asked everyone to call him by his real name - Barack. There is nothing wrong with that. Many people in this country had nick names and have stopped using them for obvious reasons. We both know that if he had continued using his nick name, that these same ignorant yahoos would be saying things like "why is Barry Obama hiding his real name of Barack?" :rolleyes: They'll make a mountain out of a mole hill and will try to stir up innuendo and trouble any way that they can, and unfortunately there are plenty of ignorant people who believe what they say.

 

This thread was created to discuss lies about someone. I like you Mebster and I have a GREAT deal of respect for you, in fact you're our favorite mod here. Our only question is why would you repost these lies about this presidential candidate? Seriously. What purpose does it serve? How could it be a 'valid question' if EVERYTHING that its based on is a lie? It would be like saying that he's {censored} or addicted to cocaine. I guess I could understand it if you didn't know that all of those things were based on lies but otherwise, I'm sorry, I just don't get what asking a false question proves :(

There seems to be two camps in the western world: those who think muslims are bloodthirsty terrorists who beat their wives five times a day, and those who think it's racist (or islamophobic) not to accept islam. In general neither of these two camps knows a lot about the religion.

 

Islam is strongly patriarchial (is that even a word? :thumbsup_anim:). Men and women are equal in the eyes of God, but man is the head of family and of society. This is the role he's been given by God. Men and women have specific duties and rules to follow. I'm an individualist so I can't respect that, and I wouldn't want a president with that mindset. Islam is also about acknowledging the quran as the ultimate truth; if you believe the quran is wrong it's because you don't understand it.

 

The islamic world rejected the constitution of human rights and wrote their own instead: The Cairo Declaration of Human Rights

 

In short I wouldn't want a president who rubs his personal faith in the face of his people.

You know there are technically left wing nutjobs too, just like there are extremist muslims and extremist Christians.

 

Absolutely, but I haven't seen any left wing nutjob e-mails going around and there aren't any on snopes. The ones going around on McCain are true.

Absolutely, but I haven't seen any left wing nutjob e-mails going around and there aren't any on snopes. The ones going around on McCain are true.

 

So you support Obama's stance to bomb Iran, as well as his stance on FISA to spy on Americans?

So you support Obama's stance to bomb Iran, as well as his stance on FISA to spy on Americans?

I suppose I'm wasting my time to ask you to post a credible link :)

 

The bottom line is that you will NEVER find anyone that will be 100% perfect in everything.

 

All things being equal though, anything is better than another 4 years of McBush :)

So you support Obama's stance to bomb Iran, as well as his stance on FISA to spy on Americans?

 

His stance on Iran is the only reason why I don't support him.

 

 

I'd like to point out I definitely don't support Mcain either! ;)

So you support Obama's stance to bomb Iran, as well as his stance on FISA to spy on Americans?

 

I do not support his stance on Iran (however I believe the other candidates to choose from are more bloodthirsty about Iran than Obama has been, I think he is trying to act like a hard-ass about the middle east because there are a lot of people out there who think that he's Muslim and hes trying to prove "NO IM NOT NO IM NOT NO IM NOT" and I get that...although I don't respect it.

 

I don't support the FISA bill either, but if you know about some of Obama's stands on the government it makes a little more sense. I think that what Obama is going for is expanded powers to see what citizens are doing but he has also advocated being able to see what the government is doing too, open the blinds on both sides so to speak, so ANYONE can see what ANYBODY is doing, government and citizen alike.

 

Also, he's changed a bit since the primary race started to heat up, I think his original stands are accurate to what he will do, I think hes just playing multiple parts trying to get elected though, we cant really tell until he's elected. This country doesn't let candidates be themselves without losing the race so its no wonder that in every election in recent memory we find ourselves saying "the lesser of two evils" all so often. If we want to fix our problems with the people we elect, the most important part is changing the press.

I still have to say, that I maintain the idea, and still advocate that any sort of "Change" starts with US. We the People. Not with some baldheaded old {censored} that wants to be dictator, wether it be McCrotch, or Osama.

 

No, he is not Muslim, and no McCain is not a conservative. I don't see where these wacky ideas come from anyway.

 

McCain is a hardcore mass murdering genocidal Hitler loving maniac that can't even stand a foot in the fascist military without his dear daddy. Osamba is a statist Stalin loving nutjob that wants to bring in radical marxist groups to gun down people in the streets.

 

Neither are conservative, or liberal. They are both statists. They love their job, and their $10,000 suit more than they love any of you.

McCain is a hardcore mass murdering genocidal Hitler loving maniac that can't even stand a foot in the fascist military without his dear daddy. Osamba is a statist Stalin loving nutjob that wants to bring in radical marxist groups to gun down people in the streets.

Do you have any proof that any of that is even remotely true?

Do you have any proof that any of that is even remotely true?

 

For one, McCain GLADLY solutes that horizantal bar Union War Flag. Which is the opposite of that Union Peace Flag that you have as your avatar. I don't sulute any union flag, but you are correct, as to your regional affairs.

 

McCain has said over, and over, that he wants to exterminate people in Iran. Obama has said he wouldn't rule out using nukes as well.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVU-kgV7B_s

 

What is preventing you guys from going out and doing your own research? Killbot has come to his own conclusion based on the facts he has researched. The only thing really, that me and killbot disagree on, as far as who runs the show, is to the extent of their power, range of influence, and technology.

McCain is a hardcore mass murdering genocidal Hitler loving maniac that can't even stand a foot in the fascist military without his dear daddy. Osamba is a statist Stalin loving nutjob that wants to bring in radical marxist groups to gun down people in the streets.

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For one, McCain GLADLY solutes that horizantal bar Union War Flag. Which is the opposite of that Union Peace Flag that you have as your avatar. I don't sulute any union flag, but you are correct, as to your regional affairs.

 

McCain has said over, and over, that he wants to exterminate people in Iran. Obama has said he wouldn't rule out using nukes as well.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVU-kgV7B_s

 

What is preventing you guys from going out and doing your own research? Killbot has come to his own conclusion based on the facts he has researched. The only thing really, that me and killbot disagree on, as far as who runs the show, is to the extent of their power, range of influence, and technology.

The quote in my post should have been cut down, because I do not want McCain to be President. I think that McCain is one of the worst things that could ever happen to this country, aside from Still President Bush. While Obama and I don't agree on anything, I do believe that he is the best candidate, definitely better than McCain. Even though the President I want will most likely win, I can't stand living in this country anymore. I don't feel safe, and I don't feel like I have any privacy here. The government has too much power, but I don't think that is the root of the problem. The problem is the people in the government. The people of the Bush Administration are horrible people and they should all be prosecuted for their crimes. I'm thinking of moving to Canada in the coming years, by 2011. But who knows, things could be much better then; but I doubt it.

I think that McCain is one of the worst things that could ever happen to this country, aside from Still President Bush.

I couldn't agree more. Anything is better than McLame.

 

I don't feel safe, and I don't feel like I have any privacy here.

Guess this would be a bad time to tell you that the other day bush signed into law where they listen in on your phone conversations ;)

Guess this would be a bad time to tell you that the other day bush signed into law where they listen in on your phone conversations

I don't feel safe, and I don't feel like I have any privacy here.I don't feel safe, and I don't have any privacy here. :(

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