Heishi Posted March 2, 2006 Share Posted March 2, 2006 Ok this sucks like so much and any help would be a god send. I got vista, made a 10G primary partition NTS. Installed vista went ok went to creat a user account did so...crashed on the 'your ready to sart' page' (great first impression) rebooted loaded up account and goes to personalizing settings in top right corner, when it gets to theme setting it crashes, everytime. I've looked around of help but cant seem to find any so please please if anyone knows what the hell i should do, i created another user account but crashes at same point also Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/10739-oh-sweet-jesus-vista/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velvet Nightmare Posted March 2, 2006 Share Posted March 2, 2006 I'm willing to bet that some of your hardware isn't supported. Post your specs. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/10739-oh-sweet-jesus-vista/#findComment-67492 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heishi Posted March 3, 2006 Author Share Posted March 3, 2006 Intel celeron 2.8 CPU 512 ram 9500 ati radeon Graphics the rest is built into the Albatron motherboard And it's the latest build for vista. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/10739-oh-sweet-jesus-vista/#findComment-67762 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tek_No Posted March 3, 2006 Share Posted March 3, 2006 Is Vista happy with "only" 512MB RAM??? I thought 4 Gig would make it much happier Oh boy... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/10739-oh-sweet-jesus-vista/#findComment-67776 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ouch Posted March 3, 2006 Share Posted March 3, 2006 Can you be more specific about the motherboard, chipset, io controllers (sata/pata) etc. As Velvet Nightmare said it's almost certainly a driver issue you are encountering, try disabling any extra features of the motherboard in the bios. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/10739-oh-sweet-jesus-vista/#findComment-67853 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heishi Posted March 3, 2006 Author Share Posted March 3, 2006 sorry about that I only had a couple of minutes to post here's everything you may wish to know (I hope) Motherboard Motherboard Information Motherboard Model P4M266-823X Motherboard Vendor Unknown Chipset Model VIA P4X266/A Chipset BIOS Model Phoenix - Award WorkstationBIOS v6.00PG BIOS Vendor Award Software Inc. BIOS Id 07/31/2003-P4M266-823X-6A6LWBK9C-00 BIOS Date 07/31/03 System Enclosure or Chassis Chassis Type Desktop Chassis Lock Present No Boot-up State Unknown Power Supply State Unknown Thermal State Unknown Security Status Unknown Processor Info (from BIOS) Socket Designation Socket 478 Processor Type Central Processor Processor Family Celeron Family Manufacturer Intel Processor Version Intel Celeron® Procesor ID 00000F29-BFEBFBFF Supported Voltage(s) 1.4 Volts Current Voltage 1.4 Volts External Clock 100 MHz Maximum Speed 1500 MHz Current Speed 2800 MHz Processor Status CPU Socket Populated, Status Enabled Processor Upgrade ZIF Socket L1 Cache Handle $0A L2 Cache Handle $0C L3 Cache Handle N/A Processor Info (from BIOS) Socket Designation Socket 478 Processor Type Central Processor Processor Family Unknown Manufacturer Unknown Processor Version Intel Celeron® Procesor ID 00000000-00000000 Supported Voltage(s) 1.4 Volts Current Voltage 1.4 Volts External Clock 100 MHz Maximum Speed 1500 MHz Current Speed 2800 MHz Processor Status CPU Socket Populated, Status Disabled by User Processor Upgrade ZIF Socket L1 Cache Handle $0B L2 Cache Handle $0D L3 Cache Handle N/A Processor Processor Model Intel Pentium 4 (0.13 µm) Type Primary Processor Vendor Intel Corporation Family Intel P4 Family Hardcoded Name Intel® Celeron® CPU 2.80GHz Frequency 2786 MHz Family/Model/Stepping 15/2/9 Brand ID 10 Logical CPU Count 1 CL Flush 8 Detailed Info Address Bus Width 36 Bit Core Details 126 µOPs, 48 Loads, 24 Stores In-Flight Core Voltage 1.5 v Data Bus Width 64 Bit Execution Speed Up to 6 µOPs/Cycle Execution Units Double-pumped ALU, FP Move/Store/FXCH, Double-pumped ALU, Slow ALU, FP Execute, Load, Store First Introduction August 28th, 2001 Floating Point Integrated I/O Voltage 1.5 v Instruction Decoder 1x IA-32/Cycle Instruction Set IA-32 Maximum Power 77.0 w Multimedia MMX, SSE, SSE2 Multiprocessing SMP, using integrated local xAPICs Physical Memory 2^36 Bit (64 GB) Pipeline Depth 20 Stages Power Management HLT, STPCLK, SMI/SMM, Sleep, Deep Sleep, Automatic Clock Throttling Processor Core RISC, Out-of-order and Speculative Execution Processor Modes Real, Protected, Virtual, Paging, SMM, Probe Mode Registers 32 Bit Integer, 80 Bit FP, 64 Bit MM, 128 Bit SSE and SSE2 Split Voltage Yes (Automatically determined via VID Pins) Supported External Bus Speed 100, 133 MHz Quad-Pumped, AGTL+ Supported Multiplier 13.0x, 14.0x, ..., 24.0x Technology 6M, 0.13 µm, CMOS, Cu, Low-K Transistors +/- 55,000,000 Typical Power 55.0-65.0 w Virtual Memory 65,528 GB (~64 TB) Codename A80532, Northwood Cache Configuration L1 Code TLB 4 KB pages, 4-way set associative, 32 entries 4 KB/4 MB/2 MB pages, fully associative, 128 entries L1 Data Cache 8 KB size, 4-way set associative, 64 byte lines, sectored L1 Data TLB 4 KB/4 MB pages, fully associative, 64 entries L2 Cache None Trace L1 Cache 12 KµOPs, 8-way set associative Processor Features Floating-point Unit on chip (FPU) Yes MMX Instructions (MMX) Yes MMX Instruction Extensions (MMX+) No 3DNow! Instructions No 3DNow! Instruction Extensions (3DNow!+) No Streaming SIMD Extensions (SSE) Yes Streaming SIMD Extensions 2 (SSE2) Yes Multiprocessor Capable No x86-64 Long Mode (LM) No Virtual Mode Extension (VME) Yes Debugging Extension (DE) Yes Page Size Extension (PSE) Yes Time Stamp Counter (TSC) Yes Model Specific Registers (MSR) Yes Physical Address Extension (PAE) Yes Machine Check Exception (MCE) Yes CMPXCHG8 Instruction (CX8) Yes On-chip APIC Hardware (APIC) Yes Fast System Call (SEP) Yes Memory Type Range Registers (MTRR) Yes Page Global Enable (PGE) Yes Machine Check Architecture (MCA) Yes Conditional Move Instruction (CMOV) Yes Page Attribute Table (PAT) Yes 36-bit Page Size Extension (PSE36) Yes 96-bit Processor Number (PSN) No CLFLUSH Instruction (CLFSH) Yes Debug Trace Store (DTS) Yes ACPI Supported (ACPI) Yes Fast Save and Restore (FXSR) Yes Self Snoop (SS) Yes Thermal Monitor Supported Yes IA-64 Processor Capable (IA-64) No Ports/IO Ports I/O $00000000 - $00000CF7 PCI bus $00000060 - $00000060 Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard $00000064 - $00000064 Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard $00000070 - $00000073 System CMOS/real time clock $00000170 - $00000177 Secondary IDE Channel $000001F0 - $000001F7 Primary IDE Channel $00000200 - $00000200 Standard Game Port $00000201 - $00000207 Standard Game Port $00000274 - $00000277 ISAPNP Read Data Port $00000279 - $00000279 ISAPNP Read Data Port $00000330 - $00000331 MPU-401 Compatible MIDI Device $00000376 - $00000376 Secondary IDE Channel $00000378 - $0000037F ECP Printer Port $000003B0 - $000003BB RADEON 9500 $000003B0 - $000003BB VIA CPU to AGP Controller $000003C0 - $000003DF RADEON 9500 $000003C0 - $000003DF VIA CPU to AGP Controller $000003F2 - $000003F5 Standard floppy disk controller $000003F6 - $000003F6 Primary IDE Channel $000003F7 - $000003F7 Standard floppy disk controller $000003F8 - $000003FF Communications Port $00000778 - $0000077B ECP Printer Port $00000A79 - $00000A79 ISAPNP Read Data Port $00000D00 - $0000FFFF PCI bus $0000C000 - $0000CFFF VIA CPU to AGP Controller $0000C000 - $0000C0FF RADEON 9500 $0000D000 - $0000D01F VIA Rev 5 or later USB Universal Host Controller $0000D400 - $0000D41F VIA Rev 5 or later USB Universal Host Controller $0000D800 - $0000D81F VIA Rev 5 or later USB Universal Host Controller $0000DC00 - $0000DC0F VIA Bus Master IDE Controller $0000E000 - $0000E0FF Vinyl AC'97 Codec Combo Driver (WDM) If you need any more info on my equipment just ask, also i can boot vista up in safe mode, so i will like 0uch!p0tat0 said disabling so some stuff. 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Grav3Mind Posted March 3, 2006 Share Posted March 3, 2006 now why cant everyone be this detailed in posting specs when asking for help lol usually i get ummm its a computer Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/10739-oh-sweet-jesus-vista/#findComment-68175 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grabberslasher Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 Try uninstalling graphic drivers and then using ATI XP ones from the ATI site. It could be that the WDDM drivers included (with Glass support) don't like your card. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/10739-oh-sweet-jesus-vista/#findComment-68235 Share on other sites More sharing options...
-.- Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 Ok this sucks like so much and any help would be a god send. I got vista, made a 10G primary partition NTS. Installed vista went ok went to creat a user account did so...crashed on the 'your ready to sart' page' (great first impression) rebooted loaded up account and goes to personalizing settings in top right corner, when it gets to theme setting it crashes, everytime. I've looked around of help but cant seem to find any so please please if anyone knows what the hell i should do, i created another user account but crashes at same point also I know how you can fix it. Erase vista and install linux or mac. I'm joking don't ban me. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/10739-oh-sweet-jesus-vista/#findComment-68320 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heishi Posted March 4, 2006 Author Share Posted March 4, 2006 Well i'll try the XP drivers, I diabled my Graphics card then booted vista again but still crashes at the same point I'll also try the vista drivers from ATI it says my card is supported anyway Product series supported: * Radeon® 9500, 9550, 9600, 9650, 9700, 9800, X300, X600, X700, X800, X850 * Radeon® X1300, X1600, X1800, X1900 series * Mobility™ Radeon® 9550, 9600, 9700, 9800, X300, X600, X700, X800 * Mobility™ Radeon® X1300, X1400, X1600, X1800 * Radeon® Xpress 200, 200M Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/10739-oh-sweet-jesus-vista/#findComment-68474 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heishi Posted March 4, 2006 Author Share Posted March 4, 2006 *update* formated partition re-installed vista, doesnt crash on 'theme settings' but the next screen personalized setting for microsoft mail 7 :censored2: ; tried the different drivers but made no difference, thanks for help anyway, I'll keep at it till i get OSX 10.4.3 (65% done *yay*) Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/10739-oh-sweet-jesus-vista/#findComment-68521 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickhamm Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 I burned my first Vista DVD (build 5308) and it would crash during setup on ever PC I tried. I reburned it at a lower speed and then it worked just fine. I installed it on two computers so far and it works just fine, somewhat fast, and fairly stable. Specs are: Computer 1 Dell Inpriron 6000 Notebook Petium M 1.8GHz Processor 512MB Memory ATI Redeon x300 Mobility (128MB Graphics Memory) 60GB Hard Drive (20GB dedicated to Vista) CD-RW/DVD-ROM Drive Computer 2 (This PC also runs Mac OS 10.4.3 on a diff HDD, 10.4.4 is 95% done DLing) Soyo P4VTE Motherboard w/ On-Board Sound Celeron D 2.93GHz Processor 768MB Memory ATI Radeon 9550 (128MB Graphics Memory) DVD-RW Drive 40GB Western Digital Hard Drive Both machines had full graphics support with Aero Glass and Flip 3D and whatnot. Explorer crashed about 3 times total between both machines during the time I used it all day, but when it crashed it started back up and was back to normal in about a minute. Also, Windows Update downloaded the new DVD codec pack and so I was able to mess with the Windows DVD Creator built in. If I can get my capture card to behave I may record some movies of it in action. The Celeron machine only had one major issue with speed and that was when using Media Center. When I tried to view TV with the downloaded DVD codecs, it looked blocky and only ran at about 2 frames per second and became extremely unresponsive. I am going to try to install the nVidia DVD codecs and see if they work any better. I would suggest a reburn of the DVD maybe to see if that helps take care of the problem, as it did in my case. Good Luck! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/10739-oh-sweet-jesus-vista/#findComment-68759 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heishi Posted March 5, 2006 Author Share Posted March 5, 2006 Hummmm good idea i was actualluy just mouting it (apparently you can do it that way too) but i always thought that burning it to a DVD would work; I'll give it a try thanks man. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/10739-oh-sweet-jesus-vista/#findComment-69050 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spockers Posted August 26, 2006 Share Posted August 26, 2006 I burned my first Vista DVD (build 5308) and it would crash during setup on ever PC I tried. I reburned it at a lower speed and then it worked just fine. I installed it on two computers so far and it works just fine, somewhat fast, and fairly stable. Specs are: Computer 1 Dell Inpriron 6000 Notebook Petium M 1.8GHz Processor 512MB Memory ATI Redeon x300 Mobility (128MB Graphics Memory) 60GB Hard Drive (20GB dedicated to Vista) CD-RW/DVD-ROM Drive Computer 2 (This PC also runs Mac OS 10.4.3 on a diff HDD, 10.4.4 is 95% done DLing) Soyo P4VTE Motherboard w/ On-Board Sound Celeron D 2.93GHz Processor 768MB Memory ATI Radeon 9550 (128MB Graphics Memory) DVD-RW Drive 40GB Western Digital Hard Drive Both machines had full graphics support with Aero Glass and Flip 3D and whatnot. Explorer crashed about 3 times total between both machines during the time I used it all day, but when it crashed it started back up and was back to normal in about a minute. Also, Windows Update downloaded the new DVD codec pack and so I was able to mess with the Windows DVD Creator built in. If I can get my capture card to behave I may record some movies of it in action. The Celeron machine only had one major issue with speed and that was when using Media Center. When I tried to view TV with the downloaded DVD codecs, it looked blocky and only ran at about 2 frames per second and became extremely unresponsive. I am going to try to install the nVidia DVD codecs and see if they work any better. I would suggest a reburn of the DVD maybe to see if that helps take care of the problem, as it did in my case. Good Luck! You got an ATI tuner to work in MCE in Vista??? From everything I've read, this is impossible, and driving me batty (Radeon AIW 2006/9600 here). Please elaborate Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/10739-oh-sweet-jesus-vista/#findComment-174734 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickhamm Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 I am digging this up to answer a question I left hanging back in August (sorry). Just for clarification, the Celeron Machine Has a Radeon 9550, not an AIW. I forgot to mention that it had a Happauge 150MCE Tuner Card in it, that is what was being slow. To today there is still no way to Use an AIW in a MCE machine (vista or XP.) They have to be MPEG2 Hardware Tuner cards with specific drivers to work with MCE. In retrospect, it is interesting to see how far Vista has come since this post. I have been running Vista on my main PC (neither of those listed) and it has yet to crash. It does get a tad slow when I have a bunch of apps open, but that sjust Windows. It seems to be as fast as XP. I haven't tried my AverMedia 1500MCE capture card in Media Center yet, but I am goign to make a post on the Vista forum about it when I get to it. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/10739-oh-sweet-jesus-vista/#findComment-256565 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdFlyer Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 You got an ATI tuner to work in MCE in Vista??? From everything I've read, this is impossible, and driving me batty (Radeon AIW 2006/9600 here). Please elaborate My ATI Tv-Wonder Elite works with windows Vista. I didn't have to do anything special. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/10739-oh-sweet-jesus-vista/#findComment-256587 Share on other sites More sharing options...
munky Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 Heishi - 10.4.3? surely you should be grabbing 10.4.8 (or at the very least 10.4.7)! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/10739-oh-sweet-jesus-vista/#findComment-256618 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Takuro Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 (edited) The simplest route is usually the best one: try re-downloading Vista RTM and burn a new disc using the slowest burn speed. For the heck of it, choose a different torrent other than the one you initially used. Try to avoid the "combo" or "pre hacked" DVDs. Just get plain standard MSDN Vista RTM 32-bit or 64-bit. Make sure it's an MSDN release, since that basically guarantees that it's completely unmodified and exactly as Microsoft released it. I'm only saying this because it's a clean install. You have nothing to lose, therefore. I'd definitely go with this first, then report back if all else fails. If a reinstall of the exact same DVD (the one you currently have) produced slightly different results the 2nd time, I'd say its a slightly corrupt DVD. If it wasn't corrupt, it shouldn't behave that way. Edited December 17, 2006 by Takuro Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/10739-oh-sweet-jesus-vista/#findComment-256645 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tripleboot Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 I've also had problems finishing installation with several of the Vista builds after first reboot and then freezing up, so I ended up partitiioning from the Vista DVD instead of from Acronis Disk Director Suite. I just deleted the NTFS partitian I created with Acronis and then when installing Vista when I get to the screen where it asks you where you want to install I select the the Vista partition I created and then deleting it and then re-partitioning that same patition by lowering the far right sized # by 1. Reboots and finishes installation without any problems. PS> You really need at least 1 gig of Ram for Vista and upgrade your graphics card at some point to avoid glitches you have described. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/10739-oh-sweet-jesus-vista/#findComment-256695 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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