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Titan Black Doesn't Work Properly after Installation of Nvidia Web Drivers(Clover/10.11)

Nvidia El Capitan Black Screen Web Drivers

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Installed El Capitan in system (in signature) with two GTX Titan Black GPUs. GPUs not supported natively (Found this odd, as all Keplers are apparently supported natively as of 10.9) Booted with nv_disable=1, installed Nvidia web drivers 346.03.03f02 after installing El Capitan 10.11.1.

 

Rebooted and got black screen after loading. After a couple minutes, the cursor appears. I moved it around to find the password input box (Completely invisible, but cursor changed to text input icon) and then typed my password, after which I get the spinning beach ball loading icon and nothing more. Tried booting with only one GPU installed, same issue.

 

Managed to properly boot into OS with nv_disable=1. (Albeit, at a low 1024x768 resolution with various visual glitches) Not sure why the drivers don't work, searched around and no one seems to have this issue except with Maxwell cards, and the fixes I've found don't work.

 

So, I tried an old AMD card I had on hand to replace one of the Titans.

 

The system booted fine, with the AMD card being seen as a generic card (Working very much like the Titan with "nv_disable=1"). Oddly, the monitor hooked up to the remaining Titan worked as it should with the proper resolution. System profiler shows the Titan as it should, with all the proper specifications.

 

I put the other Titan back into place and the issue occurs once again. Tried with only the one that worked before (In the same secondary slot) and I got nothing, something about having the AMD card installed changed its boot behavior.

 

Booted with the AMD card again, the display hooked up to the Titan no longer showed any display. System Profiler still showed it as hooked up though, so I reconnected it. This caused the monitor to turn on and display as it should, but the entire system froze a few seconds after. After a few minutes, I was given a login prompt again, and after logging in, everything works as it did the first time I had the AMD card connected.

 

Tried to open Safari, it lags a lot, freezing up the system each time it does for 30 - 60 seconds, though I think it may have something to do with the AMD card being the primary card (And only having 5MB VRAM accessible). It would seem acceleration does not work properly with this configuration.

 

 

Boot Arguments: (Clover)

"dart=0 kext-dev-mode=1 nvda_drv=1"

 

Any help is appreciated.



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what is your SMBios?



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MacPro 5,1 Currently, which is closest to the system specs.

I have also tried, MacPro 3,1 and iMac11,3 (Which crashed upon boot, probably due to having two cpus installed).



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what are the specifications of the CPU


Maybe you need this patch in confi.plist if your MacPro 5.1 SMBIOS is because you do not have ECC memory



<dict>
    <key>Name</key>
    <string>AppleTyMCEDriver</string>
    <key>Find</key>
    <data>cgoATWFjUHJvNCwxAE1hY1BybzUsMQBY</data>
    <key>Replace</key>
    <data>cgoAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABY</data>
</dict>

Look here



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The CPU is an Intel Xeon X5675 which should work especially seeing as there was a Mac Pro (5,1) released with these processors.

I should probably update my signature a bit, as I do have ECC memory (Not on the GPUs, though)



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not on GPU i think

look driver manager  in prefs System

 

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No, you are correct that the GPUs do not have ECC. I thought you meant the RAM.

For the hell of it, I decided to try a couple Quadro FX580 cards (Which do have ECC) and got the same issue. This means that even older Nvidia cards are affected by it. Before I thought it was just a Kepler GK110 thing.



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The Telsa ares ECC Telsa



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Yes, as are most Quadros. I'm not sure why the Nvidia drivers would require ECC though when using a Mac Pro SMBIOS. Most Mac Pros that came with Nvidia cards came with Geforce cards, which have never had ECC, so the system should be able to work with Geforce cards. (And as I noted above, even Quadros with ECC didn't work)

 

Edit: Tried a FX5600 (Which is officially supported by the Nvidia drivers) and the system hangs at boot at,

"AppleTyMCEDriver::start coreVIDPID = 0x2c708086 Number of packages =1 Number of cpus = 12 memory monitor through MCA" for a while, and then finally booted to the login prompt.

I added what you said to in post #4 to my config.plist and it caused the same thing to appear, but "NVDANV50HAL loaded and registered" appeared after it before the system before the system hung. After about 5 minutes it reached the login prompt. The FX5600 is only recognized as Display (5MB) while the FX580's are fully recognized. It would seem to me that the primary card is always unable to use the drivers for some reason or another. wheras all other cards will work as intended. (But without acceleration, they're kind of useless)

 

Removing the FX580s caused the "NVDANV50HAL loaded and registered" message to go away. Still hangs. The "Architecture couldn't be recognized!" message sticks out to me. Perhaps something needs to be edited in the Nvidia kext? A bit odd considering the driver is made for the FX5600. I'm not sure where to go from here.



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based on my AMD Hackintosh with GTX 550 TI, work properly with nvidia web driver,  when I remove problematic Extensions from S/L/E ... which is independent of which OS X version are installed..... but no guarantee for Intel Hackintosh.

 

and patch the AppleGraphicsControl.kext as here described:

http://www.insanelym...l-black-screen/

 

Edit:

here it has pikeralpha better described.:

https://pikeralpha.w...d-13d55-seeded/


Edited by spakk, 30 October 2015 - 11:05 PM.


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Deleting the kext didn't fix anything, I just get a black screen now after it finishes loading.

I went to patch AppleGraphicsControl.kext, only to find my board ID was already there.



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 IMO, your case seems unique. I would revert back to a fresh 10.11.1 without the nvidia driver. Cant you fake the Titan ID with your Titan Black? The bad thing in general if your card  running as another card it surely will not be performing very well. 



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I thought I may be able to fake the card's ID, but I'm not sure it is the card, as I tried using the FX5600 (One of only eight cards listed as supported by Nvidia) and it also has trouble. I could still attempt it, but I'm not sure how to go about that.

The other thing I'm thinking may be the issue, is the weird way PCI is setup on the T5500, the GPUs go into what are named slot 2 and slot 4, they don't work in the other PCIe slots, despite being full length (Though at x8) and the system tries to use GPUs in PCI-X or PCI first. Perhaps something there screws it up?

I don't quite get why I have any issues though, as I have found other posts where people have gotten graphics cards working in T5500's and T7500's (The larger version, same series), the only real difference being they all used Lion or older.

 

Edit: I removed the Nvidia drivers. The system with the FX5600 still appears as "Display 5MB" and the Titans show up as "Nvidia Chip Model 128MB" and whether I use the boot argument "nv_disable" or not, the system acts as though the boot argument is in use.



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 "used Lion or older" Saw that to, in the past you could swap some kexts for older versions and bam the graphics is working again but in these recent 10.10, 10.11 in my case seems to fail. I will google it to try to see if anyone with a 10.11.0 has done it with the Blacks 



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I've not found a single documentation of anyone running a newer version of OS X on the T*500 systems. I had a similar issue with getting Ethernet to work using the guides I found, no solution worked for modern (10.9+) versions of OS X. I had to buy an Apple USB Ethernet adapter to work around it.

Unlike Ethernet, there is no easy workaround for GPUs. Running without acceleration makes it kind of useless to have such nice cards, so I may be out of luck (And even cards that should be guaranteed to work, don't). I can't run anything older then 10.9 and expect things to work/be supported software-wise; I may have to go the Virtualization route instead.

 

EDIT: I decided to try a GTS 450 that I had on hand, and it managed to work with Nvidia kext injection enabled in Clover. I may try it with the FX5600 as well. Seems that I may be stuck using older cards, but I suppose that is fine. Haven't tried to install the web drivers, but if the card works well enough without them, I shouldn't need them.

 

EDIT2: The GTS 450 is victim to the "fermi freeze" issue that occurs with non GF100/GF110 fermi cards. The FX 5600 works perfectly with inject nvidia set in Clover.



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I had the same problem. Here's what I did that fix it (I'm using chameleon, don't think it will be much different in clover though)

 

- In my BIOS, I have a menu "Init Display First". The default value is PCI. I changed it to PEG.

- Boot to OSX using nv_disable=1

- Install Nvidia web driver 

- Restart

- Use these boot-args: GraphicsEnabler=Yes kext-dev-mode=1 nvda_drv=1 PCIRoot=1



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I decided to use a newer GPU, I figured GF110 would be supported, so I bought a cheap GTX 590. I now get a black screen during the middle of Mac OS booting with or without the Nvidia driver. Oddly enough, the card is partially recognized by the system even when using nv_disable=1, though acceleration is disabled. One GPU shows up as "Geforce GTX 590" the other shows up as "NVIDIA Chip Model".

It also worked fine when booting to setup with only Nvidia graphics injection, not sure what is added after setup that could mess with it. Disabling Nvidia graphics injection causes the system to reboot half way through the boot sequence.

 

EDIT: The problem may have to do with a new change made to Apple's graphics control kext in 10.10.3 (Which obviously would effect all future versions) I'll try using a modified kext I found and see what happens.

 

EDIT2: No change



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Do you know if your card's vBIOS is UEFI capable one? did you try to boot your hackintosh in UEFI only fastboot mode with video GOP support?







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