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[A Nonny Moose]

gwprod12, on Jun 17 2006, 05:51 AM, said:

Sure, if you want to, and know what you're doing, you can f*ck up windows.  But I can sudo rm -rf /usr/standalone/i386 and screw it up too... what's the point?  Yay, I broke my computer.

I think it's the point of saying that OS X is more like "sandbox UNIX" where you have to jump through hoops to really screw it up.  It usually involves entering a password to screw up the system.

In Windows, anything can install itself in the background without the user's permission.  Anything can overwrite a file without the user's permission.  Anything can screw with the system during the install (relace a DLL for example) and the user knows nothing about it...until the system screws up.  Now you can go through and screw it up yourself too, to be fair.

[amdprophet]

I've never crashed OS X, even after opening countless applications. Windows XP has crashed for me, but not nearly as much as the Windows operating systems including and before Windows ME. If OS X is crashing for you, you either deleted or modified files incorrectly, or you've got hardware problems.

[gwprod12]

No one's saying OS X crashes (at least, not on real macs).  But to hear people tell it, Windows crashes every 3 seconds to the point of unusability.  \ / \ /

[U.C.]

To all of you, who are unsatisfied with OSX

1) Download Pathfinder
2) OSX is a Sandboxed OS. It is far too candy coated. Too work on it succesfully you have to got the terminal. You just have too.
3) If u want a stable non sandboxed Os, use Linux. Now that is raw power. No Crashes, No Candy Coating.
4) Windows from the kernel up is a very unstable OS, due to bad memory management, registry and no security.
5) On Linux/Unix/OSX, everything has security. Every single file. Thus less headaches. Everything is more logical. The more you learn about linux the more you are in love with it.
6) I used to be happy with Windows too, in fact I used it more than OSX. But once i Finished RHCE(Redhat Certification), I turned over to the *nix side.


BTW: Please donot start a flame thread. Seriously if you are not satisfied. Remove it from your system and throw the dvd in the trashcan

[gwprod12]

Redhat.  LOL.

I'll eat Steve Jobs out before I ever use Redhat again.

[DiaboliK]

i know that mactelman. thats why i strip down windows for what i use and i have no crash problems. they are wicked fast and hey no spyware from windows! if ya didnt kno all windows xp are shipped with it on there and no spyware tool removes it.

altho since osx i havent touched windows, unless i want to use SwishMAX.

P.S.
    - please spell my name right specially when you can see it.

[gwprod12]

Okay, Omni  

[bliss]

Mac os x is the perfect mix between "just a user system" and a "geek system"

The only system i liked that mutch as osx was BeOS.

I hope in someday there will be a legal and 100% compatible way to install osx on normal pcs.

[gwprod12]

I agree.  OS X is nice.

[gwprod12]

Just got a beach ball of death when I tried to trash some stuff.  First, it's just the beachball in finder.  Then it Infects Firefox, so firefox doesnt respond, then when attempting to force-quit firefox, the dock freezes in BBOD, then the system is unusable, and must be shut down.

I realize this is a hackintosh, but I've had similar things happen on macs.

It's annoying.

[xequence]

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XP has the "crashing" feature

XP only crashes for me when I open up UT99. The video card driver fails or something. But that happens very rarely...

[Mactelman]

DiaboliK, I agree, I love mac because of how fast It starts up and I can go.  I hate that Windows always has to load the tray and whatnot, and all the other little apps in the background.   I could very well make a looooooong list of things I don't like in Windows.

[gwprod12]

I find all that startup crap particularly distasteful myself

Finding a good registry protector is on my agenda;  but usually I just disable all startup crap in msconfig.

The "startup" stuff is an actual feature, I just think it fricking sucks.

[Mactelman]

I know I'm getting pissed off that all my Windows apps are suddenly not responding when I randomly click even something on the menubar.

[ultrasoul]

Here's my take on being an experienced user on both platforms:

1) Windows is THE BEST OS atm, as most applications and games are built for it. Reaon? It has been around for a much longer time and more people have used it. Why? Because Bill Gates took the smart lane to licensing Windows and Steve Jobs was trapped in his self-egoistic world.

2) OS X is BETTER than Windows in basically everything. From security and architecture base (being built on UNIX) to how programs work, it wins handsdown. Think of it. No registry, no stupid folders, etc.

[Mactelman]

IDK, Windows is getting better and better to me as I use Vista now.  I really never liked how programs worked on OS X myself, but that doesn't bother me too much.  I like explorer much better than finder, and basically how everything related to the two works.  And Windows is definitely better than any hackintosh, (Unless fully working), you're right, it's Job's own fault for not opening up to everyone.  Can someone explain (show a pic), of what mouse tearing is?

[username931]

ultrasoul, on Jun 17 2006, 11:02 PM, said:

Here's my take on being an experienced user on both platforms:

1) Windows is THE BEST OS atm, as most applications and games are built for it. Reaon? It has been around for a much longer time and more people have used it. Why? Because Bill Gates took the smart lane to licensing Windows and Steve Jobs was trapped in his self-egoistic world.

2) OS X is BETTER than Windows in basically everything. From security and architecture base (being built on UNIX) to how programs work, it wins handsdown. Think of it. No registry, no stupid folders, etc.

I agree. OSX is working smoothe for me now. Obviously windows security and archetecture are crap. I've realized that it never crashes - BUT it does stop responding often and since theres no protected memory the whole system fails. I meant this thread to be about the practical features OSX lacks, like a built in media player, good thumbnail browsing, easy keyboard shortcuts, etc. My OSX actually hit some USB drivers that XP failed to recognize when I removed the OEM version.

The real reason for this thread was my graphics card was f***ing up and my OSX had failed completely. OSX needs a better safe mode/recovery method because it is too easy to fail it (safe mode also) completely and have no GUI repair tool. XP will boot in {censored} display mode but rarely dies completely.

And I find that small percentage of apps for OSX to be better and more complete than windows.

[gwprod12]

Yeah, a version of quicktime that supports full screen and has the codecs for RM and wmv would be swell.

[A Nonny Moose]

username931, on Jun 18 2006, 06:31 PM, said:

BUT it does stop responding often and since theres no protected memory the whole system fails.

OS X has protected memory.  OS 9 didn't, which is why an OS 9 app can crash the entire system.  OS X by design can have hte Finder crash without any dire consequences for the system itself.  

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I meant this thread to be about the practical features OSX lacks, like a built in media player, good thumbnail browsing, easy keyboard shortcuts, etc.

1. QuickTime is a built in media player with its roots deep deep in the system.  You might also want to look into QuickImage and QuickPlay.

2. Thumbnail browsing is built in also, but you have to enable it through the working of the view preferences.  It's not the nicest way to do it, but it is a way.

3. OS X's keyboard shortcuts are universal shortcuts designed by Apple.  Do a search in help for Human Interface Guidelines and you'll see the shortcuts nearly every application uses for the exact same functions.

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The real reason for this thread was my graphics card was f***ing up and my OSX had failed completely. OSX needs a better safe mode/recovery method because it is too easy to fail it (safe mode also) completely and have no GUI repair tool. XP will boot in {censored} display mode but rarely dies completely.

And I find that small percentage of apps for OSX to be better and more complete than windows.

So your graphics card (not made by Apple) screws up the system and you're blaming Apple for it?  Sounds more like you need to blame the manufacturer.  Unless it's one of those cards where the hackintosh community came up with the drivers for it.  I don't see how a graphics card problem is 100% Apple's fault.

[username931]

A Nonny Moose, on Jun 18 2006, 07:07 PM, said:

OS X has protected memory.  OS 9 didn't, which is why an OS 9 app can crash the entire system.  OS X by design can have hte Finder crash without any dire consequences for the system itself.  
1. QuickTime is a built in media player with its roots deep deep in the system.  You might also want to look into QuickImage and QuickPlay.

2. Thumbnail browsing is built in also, but you have to enable it through the working of the view preferences.  It's not the nicest way to do it, but it is a way.

3. OS X's keyboard shortcuts are universal shortcuts designed by Apple.  Do a search in help for Human Interface Guidelines and you'll see the shortcuts nearly every application uses for the exact same functions.
So your graphics card (not made by Apple) screws up the system and you're blaming Apple for it?  Sounds more like you need to blame the manufacturer.  Unless it's one of those cards where the hackintosh community came up with the drivers for it.  I don't see how a graphics card problem is 100% Apple's fault.

1) That was a PRO-OSX post.  
2) That was XP that I said failed.  
3) When did I mention anything about OS9?  
4) I wasn't blaming apple in any way for my graphics card.  
5) I know about the thumbnail option. Its not as good as in XP.
6) Quicktime is the worst media player I have ever seen. Ever. Roots in the system architecture? Even if thats true its a horrible media player. I tried to remove it from my XP box but it comes with iTunes.