OreosRgood4me Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 I just built my new computer in November, Asus a8n SLI Deluxe, AMD Athlon X2 3800, eVGA GeForce 7800 GT, 1 gig of RAM. I ran a Windows XP Home install on it because I figured it would be fine, and I had that lying around (got it with an old Dell). It seems to be really buggy, randomly crashes on me when I'm running stuff such as AIM, games such as BF2 start out really slow, and load maps slow. I've updated all the drivers and that helped a litte but not much. You think it's just the install? I'm kind of waiting for Vista to be released, I already have a Beta but maybe I should just buy pro or media center... What do you guys think? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/8259-xp-seems-really-buggy/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzie123 Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 It's not the operating system, it's the maintainer of the operating system. A clean install of Windows XP shouldn't crash instantaneously like that. And that slow loading BF2, I bet that's a driver problem (which is again, your fault, not Windows). Geez, it's kinda tired isn't it to blame the OS on something that should be blamed on the user? Oh hey, just my 2 cents, use Linux with KDE. They also have a good GUI. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/8259-xp-seems-really-buggy/#findComment-51270 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dponmac Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 Oh hey, just my 2 cents, use Linux with KDE. They also have a good GUI. If he can barely run XP what makes you think he can run Linux?? haha What do you mean by randomly crashing? Does it freeze? reboot? faulty hardware can lead to many system crashes. The OS is usually the last thing you blame for system failure. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/8259-xp-seems-really-buggy/#findComment-51273 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metrogirl Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 That (pretty good) motherboard is known to be tricky with some memory. You also have a lot of tuning options in the BIOS and the defaults are not always the best. I would spend some time online (ha, if you can keep the machine up long enough to browse) looking at suggestions for those BIOS settings. You might also try setting more relaxed memory specs than the SPD offers in case you have a chip with a CASL lower in practise than the mfctr suggests. If that cures your crashes, you know where to look. I really think the problems will be hardware and setup rather than OS. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/8259-xp-seems-really-buggy/#findComment-51293 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzie123 Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 If he can barely run XP what makes you think he can run Linux?? haha Nice point there Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/8259-xp-seems-really-buggy/#findComment-51510 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OreosRgood4me Posted February 2, 2006 Author Share Posted February 2, 2006 I guess it could be my hardware, my other computer runs XP fine, it's a Dell and XP works ok there. I'll look around for better settings, and it could be my memory. I had trouble installing it at first, and had to switch the sticks around. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/8259-xp-seems-really-buggy/#findComment-51525 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzie123 Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Good point there. Memory does sometime produce a conflicting results with certain mother board. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/8259-xp-seems-really-buggy/#findComment-51609 Share on other sites More sharing options...
abcslayer Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Does the little girl XP Home support dual processor (SMB)? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/8259-xp-seems-really-buggy/#findComment-51627 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzie123 Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Well, they do support HT and correctly displaying it as 2 processor (due to Intel's virtualization), so I think it should also run on dual processor. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/8259-xp-seems-really-buggy/#findComment-51696 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dponmac Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 Does the little girl XP Home support dual processor (SMB)? why wouldn't it?? only difference (that i've noticed) between Home and Pro, is that you cannot join a domain. But i stay away from home editions so i dont know the details on Home. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/8259-xp-seems-really-buggy/#findComment-52123 Share on other sites More sharing options...
billman424 Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 i thought once your xp was updated to sp2 that it ceased being a home edition and was the same as pro. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/8259-xp-seems-really-buggy/#findComment-52196 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baliw Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 Well, they do support HT and correctly displaying it as 2 processor (due to Intel's virtualization), so I think it should also run on dual processor. Yup, it also support dual core with hyperthreading and sees it as 4 logical cpu Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/8259-xp-seems-really-buggy/#findComment-52245 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OreosRgood4me Posted February 7, 2006 Author Share Posted February 7, 2006 Yeah it detects my processor as 2 processors, and it still is pretty fast. Just I sometimes have alot of crashes, especially with the new AIM triton or with iTunes. It's not so much the OS, just it also does seem a little slow, even though its a huge improvement over my other computer. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/8259-xp-seems-really-buggy/#findComment-53967 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sigxcpu Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 man, rtfm and install the amd processor driver. and disable that {censored} cool 'n quiet Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/8259-xp-seems-really-buggy/#findComment-53985 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OreosRgood4me Posted February 8, 2006 Author Share Posted February 8, 2006 Alright, yeah I have cool n quiet enabled but it didn't seem to do much. I'll disable it. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/8259-xp-seems-really-buggy/#findComment-54270 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dponmac Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 i thought once your xp was updated to sp2 that it ceased being a home edition and was the same as pro. I doubt that. Then everyone would buy home and upgrade to SP2 and we'd all have XP Pro. But if anyone has XP Home SP2, see if you can join a domain. If you cant then its still Home I believe the option of joining a Network Domain is the main selling point of XP Pro. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/8259-xp-seems-really-buggy/#findComment-54303 Share on other sites More sharing options...
U.C. Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 I doubt that. Then everyone would buy home and upgrade to SP2 and we'd all have XP Pro. But if anyone has XP Home SP2, see if you can join a domain. If you cant then its still HomeI believe the option of joining a Network Domain is the main selling point of XP Pro. there are a whole lotta other features diasbled, like gpedit.msc and some other ones i cant remebr right now. Also the wallpaper is different, its green instead of blue. The main point, with tweaknt, u can change it to pro, and still pay a lot less Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/8259-xp-seems-really-buggy/#findComment-54319 Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomblame Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 Windows xp is wonderful... until you plug in the ethernet cable and all of a sudden you have 80 thousand viruses and bits of spyware ... it's like instantaneous I freaking hate it! Norton doesnt do jack to block them *sigh* I'm dreaming of a decent linux distro Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/8259-xp-seems-really-buggy/#findComment-54516 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baliw Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 Come on people :censored2: Don't blame the OS for your own doing. Here's some tip on making your XP install a secure one. 1. If you have a WinXP CD with SP! ( download SP2 first before installing it) 2. Install XP and SP2 (be sure you are not connected to the net) 3. Install your favorite Anti-virus 4. Make sure the built-in firewall of XP is enabled. 5. connect to the internet and download updates immediately. 6. update anti-virus definition. 7. last but not the least use common sense in surfing the net , opening attachment and installing downloaded software. Have a safe computing day Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/8259-xp-seems-really-buggy/#findComment-54821 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dponmac Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 Windows xp is wonderful... until you plug in the ethernet cable and all of a sudden you have 80 thousand viruses and bits of spyware ... it's like instantaneous I freaking hate it! Norton doesnt do jack to block them *sigh* I'm dreaming of a decent linux distro I wouldn't go as far as saying that about Norton. Its all about how you use it. I've been using Norton since i've had an internet connectiion (back when 28.8 bps was hot stuff), and I've never had a virus on my computer unless I executed it (and that was when I was 14!!). You also need to keep the definitions updated. Spyware is a totally different subject. I wouldn't rely on Norton Internet Security to Block your spyware. The only good spyware blocker that has come from norton is in their recent coporate edition 10 (I think 11 is out now). I could be wrong about about NIS, but every person that has came to me with problems trying to access their domain or other network issues have had NIS enabled. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/8259-xp-seems-really-buggy/#findComment-56958 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chex Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 have you installed the patch for Dual Core? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/8259-xp-seems-really-buggy/#findComment-57789 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigkahoona Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 Windows xp is wonderful... until you plug in the ethernet cable and all of a sudden you have 80 thousand viruses and bits of spyware ... it's like instantaneous I freaking hate it! Norton doesnt do jack to block them *sigh* I'm dreaming of a decent linux distro Not if you know what you are doing. The XP I am running has been running for 2 years in a row now. It still behaves like on the day I installed it. If you are behind a router and have a decent Antivirus (not Norton/Symantec, McAfee or any of the cheapo free AVs) like F-Secure, you are pretty safe. Besides that, how many network active viruses spreading over the internet are there? Only a handful and they rely on unpatched systems with certain ports open which are directly connected to the internet. Matching that precondition is already deserving of a Darwin Award and not only on Windows systems. If you are a slack systems or network admin, any system can be exploited or compromized. It is always a question of how responsible and educated the owner of a computer acts. The problem is always sitting in front of the screen. As for the "decent Linux distros"... define "decent". I personally think that Ubuntu is pretty good. So is Fedora Core 4 and Suse 10. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/8259-xp-seems-really-buggy/#findComment-58076 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubano Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 Windows XP is essentially IMHO a greatly improved OS WRT Win98 - no surprise there though. I think though that in order to keep it running swift ans smoothly it should not be overladen with programs - in other words disable (use msconfig for startup options) or even better uninstall those rarely used apps. I'm sure I'm not alone with the 6/7 minutes it takes to reboot (thats is to say the time it takes from clicking shutdown to the time it takes to have a freshly rebooted usable system). Also, what's with the whole validation thing? If validation fails the only option for updates is through automatic updates - anyone else ever though that maybe just maybe a supposed software "update" actually might adversly affect the pc's performance (in the case of validation failing). Maybe I'm just paranoid but I'd like to see some benchmarks just to put my mind at ease. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/8259-xp-seems-really-buggy/#findComment-59290 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dponmac Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 Well if M$ lives up to there word, Vista is going to fix the security issues that XP had.. we'll see about that. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/8259-xp-seems-really-buggy/#findComment-62628 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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