sulfo Posted January 28, 2006 Share Posted January 28, 2006 After having you guys vote for what my money will be spent, I will go for the Custom OSX Box, so this thread probably will (hopefully) be a little like Bofors... After his recommendation (THX!) I decided to go for Intel and ordered these parts: ASUS P5LD2-VM i945G (dual PC-667 DDR2) [i don't need sound input so thats OK] Intel Pentium-D 830 3.0 GHz Box 2x1MB Dual Core Connect3D (Retail) X1800XT PCIe 256MB 2xDVI/ViVo +2 GB RAM The setup will be completed with my previous Sys Parts, ie: 250 GB Samsung HDD PATA 80 GB Maxtor HDD PATA Samsung Double Layer DVD Writer Pioneer Slot in DVD All put in a black Chieftec Case (I'll put up pics of the case tommorow) For silence, I plan to water cool the System. The parts arrive first week of february so i hope i can show first progress next week . I forgot: Mouse will be MX 510 @USB and Standart Apple Keyboard Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/7947-building-the-black-box/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
billman424 Posted January 28, 2006 Share Posted January 28, 2006 why would you want an intel. i know the new macs use them but that doesnt mean you have to. get an amd fx or an athlon 64 x2 they run cooler and faster then anything intel has out. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/7947-building-the-black-box/#findComment-49708 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bofors Posted January 28, 2006 Share Posted January 28, 2006 I forgot: Mouse will be MX 510 @USB and Standart Apple Keyboard Good choices, I am very happy with mine. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/7947-building-the-black-box/#findComment-49765 Share on other sites More sharing options...
buglamp Posted January 29, 2006 Share Posted January 29, 2006 why would you want an intel. i know the new macs use them but that doesnt mean you have to. get an amd fx or an athlon 64 x2 they run cooler and faster then anything intel has out. Future proofing maybe? AMD has better gear now but Intel is still an evil corperation bent on Global Silicon Domination. Beside's Intels chips dont use pins anymore and that makes up totaly for the fact that everything they make sucks. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/7947-building-the-black-box/#findComment-49911 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Pwns Posted January 29, 2006 Share Posted January 29, 2006 True.dat man, Intel can pull over AMD pretty soon. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/7947-building-the-black-box/#findComment-49938 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sulfo Posted January 29, 2006 Author Share Posted January 29, 2006 so here are the pics of the case it currently contains my present system. i'll post pictures of the inside when i begin swapping the components... http://www.flickr.com/photos/86336736@N00/92586787/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/86336736@N00/92586786/ i use intel for compatability and i think a p4 d 830 will we powerful enough for a while and powerful enough for the x1800 as well... and amd running cooler doesn't really matter i think since i'm going to water cool the sys... greetz! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/7947-building-the-black-box/#findComment-50087 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sulfo Posted February 14, 2006 Author Share Posted February 14, 2006 phew, today finally the parts arrived, i'm gonna pick em up tommorrow and start building... btw: instead of for the asus mb and the pentium d 830 i went for: GigaByte GA-8I945G-MF Pentium D 820 (Price/Value a lot better here) can i just install the new parts and try to boot the osx on my hdd? or will i have to reinstall...? anyway i'm getting itchy right now :D [OT]anybody know if its possible and safe to verclock the D 820?[/OT] Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/7947-building-the-black-box/#findComment-56471 Share on other sites More sharing options...
munky Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 damn, wish i'd caught you in time to suggest you get the Pentium D920, not the 820 -> 65nm process and virtualisation technology would have been yours. i went for the 920 over the 820 as a future-proofing exercise (tho of course they are basically equal for current stuff). cheers Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/7947-building-the-black-box/#findComment-56568 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sulfo Posted February 15, 2006 Author Share Posted February 15, 2006 progress pics: http://www.flickr.com/photos/86336736@N00/100063914/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/86336736@N00/...in/photostream/ mobo and cpu arrived, ram not yet i will have to wait another day... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/7947-building-the-black-box/#findComment-56837 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metrogirl Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 Sehr gut! As you have to wait for more bits, are you going to try 10.4.4? The complete Maxxuss patch should be out by the time you get the parts! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/7947-building-the-black-box/#findComment-56844 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sulfo Posted February 15, 2006 Author Share Posted February 15, 2006 i'm gonna try 10.4.3 first 10.4.4 will take a while to get... nebody know if any addon ide controllers work? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/7947-building-the-black-box/#findComment-56862 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sulfo Posted February 16, 2006 Author Share Posted February 16, 2006 more progress pics: http://www.flickr.com/photos/86336736@N00/?saved=1 well what can i say... assembled the whole thing, inserted my osx dvd, booted from dvd rom (osx even recognizes the add in ide controller) but i always end up in a kernel panic... since i'm not too good with the error messages, i'm not sure why, it seems as if the fire wire is the problem (1394 is fw i believe...) i also tried enabling/disabling the nx bit and the ht feature but it just won't boot... maybe one of you can get more out of the halt screen... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/7947-building-the-black-box/#findComment-57227 Share on other sites More sharing options...
glufx Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 True.dat man, Intel can pull over AMD pretty soon. Nope. AMD just announced they are gonna support DDR2 800Mhz with Socket AM2. Intel has DDR2 too but AMD has its memory controllers on the CPU(it has for quite some time now). All that extra bandwidth is gonna make the new AMD stuff way faster. If you want to futureproof, go AMD. They are once again, ahead of the game. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/7947-building-the-black-box/#findComment-57308 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sulfo Posted February 16, 2006 Author Share Posted February 16, 2006 sooo.... it booted up finally (actually without re install)... seems the problem was the add in ide controller after all, which i'm rather sceptic i will be able to get to work, thus i will probably need 2 sata hdds in the near future... still some things don't seem to work either: sound (lets see if azalia kext helps) for the rest just see for yourself if have some suggestions feel free to speak up Computername: Apple Development Platform Computermodell: ADP2,1 CPU-Typ: ADP2,1 Anzahl der CPUs: 2 CPU-Geschwindigkeit: 2.79 GHz L2-Cache (pro CPU): 1 MB CPU-Funktionen: FPU VME DE PSE TSC MSR PAE MCE CX8 APIC SEP MTRR PGE MCA CMOV PAT PSE36 CLFSH DS ACPI MMX FXSR SSE SSE2 SS HTT TM SSE3 MON DSCPL CX16 TPR Speicher: 512 MB Busgeschwindigkeit: 800 MHz Boot-ROM-Version: F6 (Award Software International, Inc.) GMA 950: Chipsatz-Modell: GMA 950 Typ: VGA-kompatibler Controller Bus: Integriert VRAM (gesamt): 256 MB Hersteller: Intel (0x8086) Geräte-ID: 0x2772 Versions-ID: 0x0002 Monitore: Monitor: Status: Kein Monitor angeschlossen SyncMaster: Auflösung: 1280 x 1024 @ 75 Hz Farbtiefe: 32-Bit Farbe Core Image: NOT SUPPORTED Hauptmonitor: Ja Synchronisierung: Aus Eingeschaltet: Ja Quartz Extreme: NOT SUPPORTED thats about all i have for now! greetz +++UPDATE: rebooted: stalls at boot again +++ Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/7947-building-the-black-box/#findComment-57316 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bofors Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 Tom, I think you are on the right track. But in case you haven't, perhaps you should make sure that you have the lastest BIOS installed. This 945 chipset thread may be useful to you as well: http://forum.osx86project.org/index.php?sh...&hl=945+chipset Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/7947-building-the-black-box/#findComment-57801 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sulfo Posted February 19, 2006 Author Share Posted February 19, 2006 thanks for the help folks! i'm at my parents right now and won't be back before tonight. then i will try some more: 1) disable sound 2) remove add on IDE controller 3) put dvd rom and osx hdd to the mobo IDE channel 4) put only the dvd to the mobo IDE 5) try to install to usb 2.0 hdd if all this fails: 6) try out IDE/SATA adapter for the hdd's if this fails as well 7) try out real SATA hdd... oh well... wish me luck, greetz Tom +++UPDATE+++ got my system running at the moment: osx 10.4.3 on PATA hdd winXP on PATA hdd NO optical drives (1 IDE channel only) DISABLED SATA, Sound and Firewire in BIOS System Profiler currently shows: Hardware Overview: Machine Name: Apple Development Platform Machine Model: ADP2,1 CPU Type: ADP2,1 Number Of CPUs: 2 CPU Speed: 2.79 GHz L2 Cache (per CPU): 1 MB CPU Features: FPU VME DE PSE TSC MSR PAE MCE CX8 APIC SEP MTRR PGE MCA CMOV PAT PSE36 CLFSH DS ACPI MMX FXSR SSE SSE2 SS HTT TM SSE3 MON DSCPL CX16 TPR Memory: 512 MB Bus Speed: 800 MHz Boot ROM Version: F6 (Award Software International, Inc.) this seems fine... ATA Bus: SAMSUNG SP2514N: Capacity: 232.88 GB Model: SAMSUNG SP2514N Revision: VF100-33 Serial Number: S08BJ1SY917289 Removable Media: No Detachable Drive: No BSD Name: disk0 Protocol: ATA Unit Number: 0 Socket Type: Internal OS9 Drivers: No S.M.A.R.T. status: Not Supported Volumes: Untitled: Capacity: 232.88 GB Available: 183.3 GB Writable: No File System: NTFS BSD Name: disk0s1 Mount Point: /Volumes/Untitled Maxtor 6Y080L0: Capacity: 76.33 GB Model: Maxtor 6Y080L0 Revision: YAR41BW0 Serial Number: Y2P17J8E Removable Media: No Detachable Drive: No BSD Name: disk1 Protocol: ATA Unit Number: 1 Socket Type: Internal OS9 Drivers: No S.M.A.R.T. status: Not Supported Volumes: Der Tiger: Capacity: 76.33 GB Available: 73.45 GB Writable: Yes File System: Journaled HFS+ BSD Name: disk1s1 Mount Point: / seems fine, too but now here is the weird thing: GMA 950: Chipset Model: GMA 950 Type: VGA-Compatible Controller Bus: Built-In VRAM (Total): 256 MB Vendor: Intel (0x8086) Device ID: 0x2772 Revision ID: 0x0002 Displays: Display: Status: No display connected SyncMaster: Resolution: 1280 x 1024 @ 75 Hz Depth: 32-bit Color Core Image: Supported Main Display: Yes Mirror: Off Online: Yes Quartz Extreme: Supported even though it says QE/CI supported the whole system feels kind of unresponsive and slow... the dock for example reacts really slow... no idea why. on the other hand i can change resolution in system prefs and everything, haven't tried flurry screen saver yet... I#ll download x-bench and put up the results in a few minutes... +++UPDATE END +++ Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/7947-building-the-black-box/#findComment-58058 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sulfo Posted February 19, 2006 Author Share Posted February 19, 2006 just ran xbench: score 12.38 ???!!!??? my cpu scores a overall 11.24 ????!!???? i don't get it... try more tommorrow greetz Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/7947-building-the-black-box/#findComment-58284 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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