skyfox Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 I have a Dell Dimension 4700, which is very similar to the Apple dev machine since it uses an Intel motherboard with GMA900 integrated graphics. I also have a G5 running Tiger, and both of the leaked mactel files: mactelbase.tar.rar (1.03gb) applications.tar.rar (100.68mb) Here are my questions: 1. Is is possible to put all these things together to create a working Mac x86 system? 2. Has anybody tried it on a GMA900 machine yet? That seems to be one of the biggest obstacles according to other posts. 3. I realize the leaked files are incomplete, is it possible to complete them from my G5? I looked at the list of missing files, but I can't tell how many of them are binaries. If I could get this working, I would make a disk image so that other people with GMA900 could use it. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/59-osx86-on-dimension-4700/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
other Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 1. No 2. Yes 3. Yes Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/59-osx86-on-dimension-4700/#findComment-416 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyfox Posted July 18, 2005 Author Share Posted July 18, 2005 Thanks, 'other', for your brief but informative answers. A few more questions: 1. If it is indeed possible to fill in all the missing files from my G5, then why is the answer to #1 no? 2. What happened when others tried it with a GMA900 system? Anybody ever get a GUI? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/59-osx86-on-dimension-4700/#findComment-417 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JE Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 Thanks, 'other', for your brief but informative answers. A few more questions: 1. If it is indeed possible to fill in all the missing files from my G5, then why is the answer to #1 no? 2. What happened when others tried it with a GMA900 system? Anybody ever get a GUI? 1. If the missing files are arch specific, they will not be useful on the intel box. 2. The issue with the GUI isn't really about hardware, but the applications themselves (or lack of). Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/59-osx86-on-dimension-4700/#findComment-418 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyfox Posted July 18, 2005 Author Share Posted July 18, 2005 1. If the missing files are arch specific, they will not be useful on the intel box. That's what I thought, but 'other' said it was possible get all the missing files from my G5 (question #3 in my initial post). If none of these are binaries, then it shouldn't be a problem. 2. The issue with the GUI isn't really about hardware, but the applications themselves (or lack of). I have the applications too, or at least what appears to be in a second tarball (iLife, Safari, etc.). Also, I saw posts where people where getting kernel extension errors when trying to use a Nvidia card. It seems logical that Apple would only include GMA drivers, and not ATI or Nvidia. That's why I thought my 4700 might work. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/59-osx86-on-dimension-4700/#findComment-419 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathChill Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 Nothing's going to happen until we get the missing files, and that could happen anywhere from today to a month down the road. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/59-osx86-on-dimension-4700/#findComment-420 Share on other sites More sharing options...
other Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 Yes, you can get some of the G5 files Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/59-osx86-on-dimension-4700/#findComment-421 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Bond Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 Actually, hardware is a HUGE issue right now. With the help of Daisuke and others, we've basically come to the conclusion that the drivers included in the dev kit are crippled, to the point that unless your hardware configuration is very, very similar to the dev machines, you'l have a hard time running it. There is hope though, after seeing the progress that blex0r and others have gotten on getting the leak to run within a virtual machine. Check the Darwin threads for more. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/59-osx86-on-dimension-4700/#findComment-423 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyfox Posted July 18, 2005 Author Share Posted July 18, 2005 the drivers included in the dev kit are crippled, to the point that unless your hardware configuration is very, very similar to the dev machines, you'l have a hard time running it. My Dimension 4700 is very, very similar, which is why I had hoped it might work. I'll check those other threads. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/59-osx86-on-dimension-4700/#findComment-426 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JE Posted July 19, 2005 Share Posted July 19, 2005 Actually, hardware is a HUGE issue right now. With the help of Daisuke and others, we've basically come to the conclusion that the drivers included in the dev kit are crippled, to the point that unless your hardware configuration is very, very similar to the dev machines, you'l have a hard time running it. There is hope though, after seeing the progress that blex0r and others have gotten on getting the leak to run within a virtual machine. Check the Darwin threads for more. However, you must admit, without a GUI, you don't need drivers for the GUI? You need the car to put the gas in, until then you just have useful gas. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/59-osx86-on-dimension-4700/#findComment-432 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Bond Posted July 19, 2005 Share Posted July 19, 2005 That's true, but the GUI isn't necesarilly for you to have the proper drivers all up and running. The fact is, in order to get the GUI to even think about running, you have to have similar hardware so that Darwin/Mactel won't {censored} out on you when you try to boot it. Example - People with some GeForce cards (Can't remeber what in particular, but I thibk it was the one shudder has) Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/59-osx86-on-dimension-4700/#findComment-445 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest prasys007 Posted July 30, 2005 Share Posted July 30, 2005 It might not work....You can get the 64-bit version and see what happens....It really depends...You can give it a shot...I don't really know. I need to test mactel thingy out (last time I tested and it will not work on AMD Boxes) Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/59-osx86-on-dimension-4700/#findComment-624 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mountainaudio Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 I have a Dell Dimension 9150 which run an Intel ® Pentium D 2.80 CPU and an NVidia G-Force 6 Series Video card. I have installed JaS.10.4.8.AMD.Intel but when I boot, I always get the grey apple crash screen that tells me to hold down the power button and cold restart. Anyone Help? stu Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/59-osx86-on-dimension-4700/#findComment-354352 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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