Ayanami Posted July 14, 2007 Share Posted July 14, 2007 Where is it, and what, EXACTLY is it supposed to do? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/57070-resolution-independence/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ramm Posted July 14, 2007 Share Posted July 14, 2007 I can't find it myself. It's supposed to make items on the screen a different size (so it appears as though you have a higher resolution). Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/57070-resolution-independence/#findComment-407744 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzuka Posted July 14, 2007 Share Posted July 14, 2007 err is this some new feature in leopard? where is it Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/57070-resolution-independence/#findComment-407797 Share on other sites More sharing options...
treizep Posted July 14, 2007 Share Posted July 14, 2007 You must install the XCode development package from the Leopard install disk. Then launch /Developer/Applications/Graphics Tools/Quartz Debug.app and select "Show user interface resolution" in the "Tools" menu... But it's still a buggy feature Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/57070-resolution-independence/#findComment-407812 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayanami Posted July 14, 2007 Author Share Posted July 14, 2007 You must install the XCode development package from the Leopard install disk. Then launch /Developer/Applications/Graphics Tools/Quartz Debug.app and select "Show user interface resolution" in the "Tools" menu... But it's still a buggy feature Damn.... Time to go get another copy of the install disk Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/57070-resolution-independence/#findComment-407870 Share on other sites More sharing options...
consolation Posted July 14, 2007 Share Posted July 14, 2007 I can't find it myself. It's supposed to make items on the screen a different size (so it appears as though you have a higher resolution). I think you mean a lower resolution. The idea is that when you run a high resolution display , say a 2560X1600, the icons are the same size as on a lower resolution, say a 1440X900. Same with text in menus which can become tiny and hard to read. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/57070-resolution-independence/#findComment-407887 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayanami Posted July 14, 2007 Author Share Posted July 14, 2007 If it goes that way instead of what Ramm said, I'll be very, VERY dissapointed Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/57070-resolution-independence/#findComment-407898 Share on other sites More sharing options...
iLux Posted July 14, 2007 Share Posted July 14, 2007 If it goes that way instead of what Ramm said, I'll be very, VERY dissapointed It is more or less what Ramm said. It allows an element to look the same size even if the resolution of the screen is much bigger. Which allows you to have a high-density screen without having all the stuff super-tiny. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/57070-resolution-independence/#findComment-407917 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayanami Posted July 14, 2007 Author Share Posted July 14, 2007 =( I guess I'm looking for the opposite...to shrink the things on my screen like I'm running a higher resolution that what I actually have. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/57070-resolution-independence/#findComment-407924 Share on other sites More sharing options...
treizep Posted July 14, 2007 Share Posted July 14, 2007 I think you can also shrink the display factor down to 0.5x... using Quartz Debug. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/57070-resolution-independence/#findComment-407997 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnit Posted July 14, 2007 Share Posted July 14, 2007 It is more or less what Ramm said. It allows an element to look the same size even if the resolution of the screen is much bigger. Which allows you to have a high-density screen without having all the stuff super-tiny. Primarily its a universal access thing, its lets people have large elements on the screen for easier use without sacrificing fidelity of relying on specific resolutions. It also allows you to have properly sized elements on screens with higher pixel densities, or even smaller elements if you feel like having more desktop space. It can be used without installing Xcode, there are some terminal commands you can use, but I can't seem to find them. Its pretty glitchy at the moment, lots of stuff looks poor quality. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/57070-resolution-independence/#findComment-408008 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embio Posted July 14, 2007 Share Posted July 14, 2007 off topic - hey mnit, your from salford? I'm like 15 miles north of you in Blackburn! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/57070-resolution-independence/#findComment-408048 Share on other sites More sharing options...
t3mur Posted July 14, 2007 Share Posted July 14, 2007 Got to say... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/57070-resolution-independence/#findComment-408080 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayanami Posted July 14, 2007 Author Share Posted July 14, 2007 Primarily its a universal access thing, its lets people have large elements on the screen for easier use without sacrificing fidelity of relying on specific resolutions. It also allows you to have properly sized elements on screens with higher pixel densities, or even smaller elements if you feel like having more desktop space. It can be used without installing Xcode, there are some terminal commands you can use, but I can't seem to find them. Its pretty glitchy at the moment, lots of stuff looks poor quality. If you wouldn't mind sending me some info on that.....That'd really make my day. PM or AIM - Ayanamizer00 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/57070-resolution-independence/#findComment-408086 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnit Posted July 14, 2007 Share Posted July 14, 2007 If you wouldn't mind sending me some info on that.....That'd really make my day.PM or AIM - Ayanamizer00 I can't for the life of me find the site anymore - and I didn't have the forethought to note the commands down I'm afraid. Its a HItoolbox command if I recall correctly, the command followed by the number you want to multiply the scale by, which can be a decimal. I'm gonna keep digging around and if I find it I'll post it up here. Embio: damnit! you're more Northern that I am! EDIT: found it: defaults write NSGlobalDomain AppleDisplayScaleFactor 2 would give you twice the usual size. Watch out using sizes that are too small, as Suzuka notes below it can cause problems getting back to usual as you cant click anything right.. if you want to go smaller go smaller in increments, 0.9, then 0.8, etc. Its glitchy as hell, but in some ways its pretty cool. Ive got my 15" MBP running at scale factor 0.85 at the moment, and its a much more fitting size. PS, log out and in again after doing it. EDITED to get rid of the 0.5 value... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/57070-resolution-independence/#findComment-408091 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzuka Posted July 14, 2007 Share Posted July 14, 2007 I can't for the life of me find the site anymore - and I didn't have the forethought to note the commands down I'm afraid. Its a HItoolbox command if I recall correctly, the command followed by the number you want to multiply the scale by, which can be a decimal. I'm gonna keep digging around and if I find it I'll post it up here. Embio: damnit! you're more Northern that I am! EDIT: found it: defaults write NSGlobalDomain AppleDisplayScaleFactor 0.5 would give you a scale of 0.5. Its glitchy as hell, but in some ways its pretty cool. Ive got my 15" MBP running at scale factor 0.85 at the moment, and its a much more fitting size. PS, log out and in again after doing it. please change that value...I just set it to 0.5 >.< that was hard to get out of Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/57070-resolution-independence/#findComment-408136 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnit Posted July 14, 2007 Share Posted July 14, 2007 please change that value...I just set it to 0.5 >.< that was hard to get out of Done and done! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/57070-resolution-independence/#findComment-408143 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kernalzero Posted July 14, 2007 Share Posted July 14, 2007 could have potential...look forward to final release of leopard and all that it might hold, should be light years ahead of vista even though released later (like the iphone is generations ahead of current smartphones) Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/57070-resolution-independence/#findComment-408163 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemiola Posted July 14, 2007 Share Posted July 14, 2007 Hmmmm, interesting ... certainly has potential. But, as mentioned - very buggy ! Tried 0.9 and text was fuxored on about everything .... oh well, bring on the Gold Master :-) Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/57070-resolution-independence/#findComment-408164 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayanami Posted July 15, 2007 Author Share Posted July 15, 2007 Well, I fooled around with it for a bit, and tried to go back to normal. I now have no more Finder bar. It is replaced by a white box where the menu used to be. =( =( =( Any ideas? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/57070-resolution-independence/#findComment-408215 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ramm Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 Such a disappointment. How terrible Resolution independence is... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/57070-resolution-independence/#findComment-408228 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayanami Posted July 15, 2007 Author Share Posted July 15, 2007 Yeah....How do I revert back? Time Machine didn't help me, and nothing is rendering right.....Please tell me there's some kind of something to use as a default EDIT: Ok, so I tried using display prefs. to change the real resolution, and it's not helping. It's really the Finder and Camino that are trashed beyond use, but Dashboard and Time Machine aren't rendering correctly, and System Prefs. barely comes out right at all. Obvious next question, here is my answer; No, I do not have a copy of the leopard install disk, nor do I have a backup of the disk image. My files and such are backed up, but nothing with the OS. Obvious third question, here is my answer; No, Time Machine is not changing anything. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/57070-resolution-independence/#findComment-408229 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnit Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 use a scale factor of 1 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/57070-resolution-independence/#findComment-408277 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemiola Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 Yeah....How do I revert back? Time Machine didn't help me, and nothing is rendering right.....Please tell me there's some kind of something to use as a defaultEDIT: Ok, so I tried using display prefs. to change the real resolution, and it's not helping. It's really the Finder and Camino that are trashed beyond use, but Dashboard and Time Machine aren't rendering correctly, and System Prefs. barely comes out right at all. Obvious next question, here is my answer; No, I do not have a copy of the leopard install disk, nor do I have a backup of the disk image. My files and such are backed up, but nothing with the OS. Obvious third question, here is my answer; No, Time Machine is not changing anything. I bet making your signature image smaller will help Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/57070-resolution-independence/#findComment-408295 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ramm Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 If you have a problem with someone's signature, PM them about it. Don't make a public attack/joke out of it. Ayanami, try completely killing Finder after setting the DPI to 72 and the scale factor to 1.0. Do this by typing in killall Finder in Terminal. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/57070-resolution-independence/#findComment-408308 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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