39thRonin Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 (edited) The First non-test release of hacking God Maxxuss's kernel patches for 10.4.3 8F1111 are up on his site: EDIT: Removed content violating DMCA Have fun! Edited February 17, 2006 by Metrogirl Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/5406-bedit-removed-content-violating-dmcab/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
macgirl Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 Yeah, I just installed both patched kernel with emulation and runtime for SSE2, still getting the pink artifacts in QT and sound issues, and yes, there are differences in benchmarks. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/5406-bedit-removed-content-violating-dmcab/#findComment-34222 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaS Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 So I'm guessing then that 100% sse3 emulation is the way to go .. slower but stable? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/5406-bedit-removed-content-violating-dmcab/#findComment-34236 Share on other sites More sharing options...
VasH Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 So I only have to put a patched kernel in my root folder and specify it at boot. It's not necessary a new installation, right? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/5406-bedit-removed-content-violating-dmcab/#findComment-34249 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stryder Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 So I only have to put a patched kernel in my root folder and specify it at boot.It's not necessary a new installation, right? Correct. And I now know why mine was having so many problems. It was exactly what JaS said: CPUID. So... I now have a full SSE3 kernel (no NX and CPUID patched)! However, according to Maxxuss's site, if you have used a SSE2 kernel (like the one I used with the JaS PPF on the ISO) then it replaces all files on the hard disk with SSE2 instructions. Am I reading this right? If so, should I re-install? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/5406-bedit-removed-content-violating-dmcab/#findComment-34269 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stryder Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 Ok, so I decided to try and re-install anyways... So I put the patched kernel that works on my system onto the DVD, and the patched OAH files, and boot. Booted with -v, everything is going ok, blue screen pops up, waiting... then... my machine shuts off! And this is with the kernel that works with it already installed on the hard disk! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/5406-bedit-removed-content-violating-dmcab/#findComment-34278 Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxxuss Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 Yeah, I just installed both patched kernel with emulation and runtime for SSE2, still getting the pink artifacts in QT and sound issues, and yes, there are differences in benchmarks. I don't know if it applies to your system, but I think it's important that you and the other users are aware of one thing: if you have **at least once** booted with the SSE3->SSE2 runtimer patcher (or test2, test3 or test3b), your installation is modified on disk - forever! From then on, it **doesn't make sense** to boot the SSE3 emulation kernel in this installation, since there are no more SSE3 instructions (all have been replaced by SSE2 more-or-less equivalent ones). In this scenario, once you get artefacts (sound or video or mouse), you will them get forever in this installation. The only way for getting rid of the artefacts is a fresh installation and the exclusive use of the SSE3 emulator. I know this is a very tricky, complicated issue and the patcher/emulation solution is very far from being optimal. However, once a good solution is found, it might prove valuable for all future OS X builds, so it's worthwhile to work on this issue. One thing of interest for me is how much the SSE3 emulation slows down your system? Is it bearable; can you playback a video, listen to music? Thanks. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/5406-bedit-removed-content-violating-dmcab/#findComment-34281 Share on other sites More sharing options...
macgirl Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 I did not reinstall for the SSE2 emulation, but I did a xbench test with both emulation and runtime kernels. Emulation give 66 points. Runtime give 75 points. I will reinstall and test it again, but I have one question, once I have reinstalled and use only the SSE2 emulation kernel if I change my procesor to a one with SSE3 capable do I need to reinstall again or I can just use the SSE3 kernel? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/5406-bedit-removed-content-violating-dmcab/#findComment-34286 Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxxuss Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 but I have one question, once I have reinstalled and use only the SSE2 emulation kernel if I change my procesor to a one with SSE3 capable do I need to reinstall again or I can just use the SSE3 kernel? No, if you stick exclusively to the SSE3 emulator, you need not have to do a fresh installation. Actually, you can even continue to boot the kernel with the SSE3 emulator, since the emulation is only used if the CPU cannot execute the SSE3 instructions itself. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/5406-bedit-removed-content-violating-dmcab/#findComment-34287 Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaiOSX Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 (edited) I burned down these last files onto a dvd. Still got the cpuid kernel panic. at boot ( -v ) i can clearly see PAE ENABLED, but the CPU list does not show it up. What's wrong ? Edited December 5, 2005 by VaiOSX Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/5406-bedit-removed-content-violating-dmcab/#findComment-34299 Share on other sites More sharing options...
macgirl Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 (edited) One thing of interest for me is how much the SSE3 emulation slows down your system? Is it bearable; can you playback a video, listen to music? Thanks. Maxxuss, I reinstalled 10.4.3 8F1111 with Archive and Install option, no more artifacts on Quicktime movies, Sound 100% working. I redone the test in xbench, 73 points vs 75. I guess that 66 points had to do with the conbination of runtime kernel modiied system and running with emulation kernel. BTW, are you married? EDIT: I forgot to delete AppleFPMemdriver, I did just a moment ago, then retest XBench and Now I got 76.xx points. But I have some problems with some PPC Apps, like TextWrangler, and Stuffit Deluxe 9, also I can't launch the System Preferences with Rosetta, it locks the system as with thes two PPC apps, although Toast 6.1 does not crash/lock. macam now doesn't recognize the loitech camera and if I launch with rosetta also locks the system. Edit2: I just launched MSN Messenger and also locks the system. Edit3: I did a kernel with emulation and cpuid patches, now PPC apps that locked doesn't, although Textwrangler still does there is a new version with Universal binary and works great. Edited December 5, 2005 by macgirl Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/5406-bedit-removed-content-violating-dmcab/#findComment-34325 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LlamaGuy Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 Cool stuff, I'll be trying this out when I get home. I'll be doing a fresh installation. I'll compare benchmarks from a fresh 8f1099 install to a fresh 8f1111 install. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/5406-bedit-removed-content-violating-dmcab/#findComment-34330 Share on other sites More sharing options...
yozh Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 So let me get this straight I used the Maxxuss_Kernel_NoNX_10.4.3_8F1111_raw-test1 originaly for my installation do I still need to apply the kernel ppf patches ? or is it all the same ? I already replaced the oah files and they seem to be better. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/5406-bedit-removed-content-violating-dmcab/#findComment-34339 Share on other sites More sharing options...
VasH Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 (edited) How can I see the difference between the kernel? I mean: I've istalled 8f1111 with Jas ppf patch for sse3 no nx (thanks again) and the system had some issues. Now I've downloaded the prepatched mach_kernel.nonx from Maxxuss' site(thanks a lot), i've put it in my root folder, and i've added the string mach_kernel.nonx in the apple.com.boot.plist file, under Kernel Flag. So now my system should load this kernel isn't it? I have not noticed any changes at all, same bug, same crashes.... so i'am asking to you: have I made something wrong or must I be pleased of what I've got? Edited December 5, 2005 by VasH Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/5406-bedit-removed-content-violating-dmcab/#findComment-34368 Share on other sites More sharing options...
macgirl Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 You can type in terminal this: diff mach_kernel.sse3-nonx mach_kernel.other-sse3-nonx if they are different it shows, atherwise no output at all. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/5406-bedit-removed-content-violating-dmcab/#findComment-34371 Share on other sites More sharing options...
VasH Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 no output. Is it normal? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/5406-bedit-removed-content-violating-dmcab/#findComment-34379 Share on other sites More sharing options...
macgirl Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 Sure. you can dig in the manual, just type man diff in Terminal. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/5406-bedit-removed-content-violating-dmcab/#findComment-34422 Share on other sites More sharing options...
yozh Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 So let me get this straight I used the Maxxuss_Kernel_NoNX_10.4.3_8F1111_raw-test1 originaly for my installation do I still need to apply the kernel ppf patches ? or is it all the same ? I already replaced the oah files and they seem to be better. Am I right about this ? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/5406-bedit-removed-content-violating-dmcab/#findComment-34446 Share on other sites More sharing options...
VasH Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 I meant: it's normal that the two kernel have no differeces. And I' ve answered myself that simpy Jas has used Maxxuss kernel in his ppf. right? Anyway thanks for your help macgirl, and nice avatar Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/5406-bedit-removed-content-violating-dmcab/#findComment-34447 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tearabite Posted December 6, 2005 Share Posted December 6, 2005 i cant apply any of these patches.. i've tried them all, in every combo.. by selecting the kernel at boot, as well as burning them to DVD and booting.. I get the same thing every time: PANIC 0X0019BE02 ME: Machine Name: Apple Development Platform Machine Model: ADP2,1 CPU Type: ADP2,1 Number Of CPUs: 2 CPU Speed: 2.99 GHz L2 Cache (per CPU): 512 KB CPU Features: FPU VME DE PSE TSC MSR PAE MCE CX8 APIC SEP MTRR PGE MCA CMOV PAT PSE36 CLFSH DS ACPI MMX FXSR SSE SSE2 SS HTT TM TPR Memory: 1.5 GB Bus Speed: 3.2 GHz Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/5406-bedit-removed-content-violating-dmcab/#findComment-34504 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cavemonkey50 Posted December 6, 2005 Share Posted December 6, 2005 I'm getting the same kernel panic as Tearabite (0X0019BE02). Any ideas? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/5406-bedit-removed-content-violating-dmcab/#findComment-34597 Share on other sites More sharing options...
numberonekiwi Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 I have downloaded macosx_10.4.3_8f1111_for_dtk_userdvd.dmg burn't to dvd and then booted It did not work so been reading about maxxus patches etc but I cant seem to be able to do anything is that something to do with this file being .dmg (file size=2.81GB) when booting i get the message hardware not supported there are no boot options when starting from this dvd any thoughts? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/5406-bedit-removed-content-violating-dmcab/#findComment-34773 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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