killbot1000 Posted April 19, 2007 Share Posted April 19, 2007 I felt this would be an interesting topic given how heavy our discussions get sometimes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwprod12 Posted April 20, 2007 Share Posted April 20, 2007 Are we defining best? LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3nigma Posted April 20, 2007 Share Posted April 20, 2007 Communism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killbot1000 Posted April 20, 2007 Author Share Posted April 20, 2007 Seriously though, what kind of society would you guys create? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proteo Posted April 20, 2007 Share Posted April 20, 2007 Communism Communism (the real thing: no state-owned productive means, but people-owned, freedom not by law enforcement but by self-control and individual responsibility, equality, solidarity and compeition not by capital but by aptitudes and skills) is my utopia. I'm quite sure no one will see it soon, though, precisely because real communism is just that, an utopia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3nigma Posted April 20, 2007 Share Posted April 20, 2007 Communism (the real thing: no state-owned productive means, but people-owned, freedom not by law enforcement but by self-control and individual responsibility, equality, solidarity and compeition not by capital but by aptitudes and skills) is my utopia. I'm quite sure no one will see it soon, though, precisely because real communism is just that, an utopia. Seriously though, what kind of society would you guys create? Communism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro17 Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 Seriously though, what kind of society would you guys create? I believe that "Utopia" exists in some points of space and time (on Earth). Example: The Netherlands of the late seventies, early eighties were a "paradise" of tolerance, equal opportunities and high living standards for (almost) everybody (except for black people). Prime Minister Joop den Uyl had much to do with it (I believe). After the "betrayal" of Dries van Agt things began to deteriorate. Probably another "Utopia" must have been Florence under Lorenzo de' Medici, at least for the wealthier citizens. More generally speaking I believe that each of us has an idea of what would be ideal for him/her. What to take into account? The weather? For some people it is very important. Friendliness of the local people? Tolerance? Decent living conditions? Lack of pollution? If most of the conditions which make life pleasant for you are there, that is your personal utopia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solaar Posted April 25, 2007 Share Posted April 25, 2007 I prefer to live in reality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trav1085 Posted April 25, 2007 Share Posted April 25, 2007 I prefer to live in reality[/url] Yes.. I agree with you. I don't want to be an unreal utopia were everything is perfect, it's too.. boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mifki Posted April 25, 2007 Share Posted April 25, 2007 Pleasantville Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwhsh8r Posted April 25, 2007 Share Posted April 25, 2007 realistically, the park, i skip school and go there, i hang out there, and its accessable, i travel alot out of country and stuff, but i can go there allmost anytime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurora Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 Communism dear God </sarcasm> Communism is all fine and dandy in theory, but it's innately flawed. It's designed to provide for every want a man could ever have, but the problem becomes having a finite system providing for a society's infinite wants. People start to look elsewhere for satisfaction and eventually this system will collapse. Only capitalism can properly balance want and need. In this age as long as man's nature stays the way it is, the best we can get to Utopia is a strict capitalist system; people will only live happily if they have an incentive to work for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ictinike Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 Socialism, somewere in arounds Norway would be nice to live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dark4181 Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 one where the deadly sins are conformity, stupidity and herd behavior Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paranoid Marvin Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 Being British, I crave disappointment. So utopia would just suck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro17 Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 Being British, I crave disappointment. Sorry, I don't get that. Having spent much of my life in Britain I have an endless list of disappointments there. Maybe wait until you are a bit older. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paranoid Marvin Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 Sorry, I don't get that. Having spent much of my life in Britain I have an endless list of disappointments there.Maybe wait until you are a bit older. Sorry, been watching Bill Bailey a bit to much!! Tbph, I like the world as it is. I would like to travel a bit more, as well as the human race as a whole being completely carbon neutral... Also, it would be nice to live in a world where people (at least round here) are more accepting of my sexuality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro17 Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 Also, it would be nice to live in a world where people (at least round here) are more accepting of my sexuality Where do you live in Scotland? It seemed that Glasgow and Edinburgh were (reasonably) OK from that point of view (albeit I never lived in Edinburgh) Edit: I realized it was a silly question. Just tell us if it is a large or small place, if you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtflick Posted April 27, 2007 Share Posted April 27, 2007 meritocracy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paranoid Marvin Posted April 27, 2007 Share Posted April 27, 2007 Where do you live in Scotland? It seemed that Glasgow and Edinburgh were (reasonably) OK from that point of view (albeit I never lived in Edinburgh) Edit: I realized it was a silly question. Just tell us if it is a large or small place, if you want. I live along the morayshire coastline, between Inverness and Aberdeen. quite close to a small city called Elgin. It's about a 3 hour drive to Edinburgh or Glasgow. What I find facisnating about this end of the woods is that we are almost closer to Scandanavia than London! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro17 Posted April 27, 2007 Share Posted April 27, 2007 I live along the morayshire coastline, between Inverness and Aberdeen. quite close to a small city called Elgin. It's about a 3 hour drive to Edinburgh or Glasgow.What I find facisnating about this end of the woods is that we are almost closer to Scandanavia than London! It must be absolutely fascinating. I knew quite well a large area north of Glasgow, and every time I discovered something truly amazing. Maybe when you are older you want to move to a larger place in order to find more tolerance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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