RapidEyE Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 I've just recieved an email from my mate Jay which is quite disturbing if you are involved in UK live music, please read, consider and sign ASAP, and could we make this sticky. please & thanks Everybody needs to look at this!!!!!!! ''The Government have recently passed laws in the UK to try and suppress live music and dance. Pubs which could previously offer work to solo singers or duos now have to pay for a special licence and can only have 12 of these per year. Even school Xmas concerts need to be licensed. If you don't know there is a UK government web site where anyone can now start a petition and that's what is being done. we've just received the following email which explains things more clearly and gives the site address . If you care about keeping music live please take the time to sign the petition. Subject: Music/Licensing Laws - Official Downing Street petition Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 12:36:37 Please circulate The live music/licensing e-petition now has nearly 20,000 signatures. It currently stands at no.17 in the list of 1,702 petitions on the Number 10 website: http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/licensing/ This is good, especially in just under a month - and there are five more months in which people can sign. (CLOSING DATE: 11 June 2007). But the petition needs to do much better to make an impression on ministers, and to encourage DCMS to implement music-friendly amendments. The petition is for everyone, not just musicians. Please consider signing if you haven't already done so. If you have signed, encourage friends to sign. Points to remember about the new legislation: a.. The unlicensed provision of even one musician is a potential criminal offence (although some places are exempt, including places of public religious worship, royal palaces and moving vehicles). Max penalty: £20,000 fine and six months in prison. b.. The rationale is to prevent noise, crime and disorder, to ensure public safety, and the protection of children from harm. c.. But broadcast entertainment, including sport and music, is exempt - no matter where, and no matter how powerfully amplified. d.. In the transition to the new regime, bars with jukeboxes, CD players etc were automatically granted a license to play recorded music; but their automatic entitlement to one or two musicians was abolished. e.. For the first time, private performances raising money for charity are licensable. f.. School performances open to friends and family are licensable - they count as public performances. g.. Under the old regime all premises licensed to sell alcohol for consumption on the premises were automatically allowed up to two live musicians (the 'two in a bar rule'). h.. In December, DCMS published research confirming that about 40% of these have lost any automatic entitlement to live music as a result of the new Act: 'Very few establishments that wanted a new license were denied it, and many who were previously limited to 2-in-a-bar now have the ability to stage music with 2 or more musicians... This contrasts, of course, with the fact that 40% of establishments now have no automatic means of putting on live music (i.e. they would have to give a TEN).' ['Licensing Act 2003: The experience of smaller establishments in applying for live music authorization'; December 2006', paragraphs 6.1.1 and 6.1.2 'Conclusions', p54; Caroline Callahan, Andy Martin, Anna Pierce, Ipsos-MORI] 'TEN' stands for Temporary Event Notice - in effect a temporary entertainment licence. Only 12 are allowed per premises per year. They cost £21 each. See the full MORI reports on this site: http://www.culture.gov.uk/Reference_...ec_summary.htm link to sign petition is here.. http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/licensing Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/43307-official-uk-live-music-petition/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zealot Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 Basicaly they want to kill the "litle" bands and its spot.That law sucks real bad . Pd:sorry ,im not from the UK. but i will be glad to spread the voice over this. Zealot Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/43307-official-uk-live-music-petition/#findComment-309742 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callysto Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 Consider it signed Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/43307-official-uk-live-music-petition/#findComment-309795 Share on other sites More sharing options...
68030 Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 given that, when i was in london not a month ago, all they did talk on the tv was their prisons already being stuffed to the rim and some judge made a show of letting some pedophile off and didn't send him to prison after some secretary or other (reid?) made a speech to that effect, i wonder where they will put these big criminals that dare to have live music more often and possibly (quite probably) totally unlicensed. what a farce. besides that, does a karaoke event fall into this? i mean, seriously that's more that a dozen single artists onstage in a single night. what hefty fine that could prompt. especially as it's most likely not licensed. the outrage. anyway, i'd have thought your politicians over there had a little more sense than our own. guess they're all alike, anywhere on the planet. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/43307-official-uk-live-music-petition/#findComment-309829 Share on other sites More sharing options...
djpc47 Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 everyone loves the RIAA.... those people are clearly pirating music in order to have gigs Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/43307-official-uk-live-music-petition/#findComment-310033 Share on other sites More sharing options...
solaar Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 Oh dear... as if there aren't any more urgent issues. What's next? Enforcing fees on everybody who sings or whistles a tune in the loo? and another Petition signed Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/43307-official-uk-live-music-petition/#findComment-310469 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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