ronnyek Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 Ok, I've installed bootcamp, then installed vista ultimate RTM, however noticed that the thing simply will not sleep/wakeup reliably? I suspect its bcause bootcamp is beta, but I've been unable to determin whether I even *NEED* bootcamp. concensus seems to be vista gone back and forth on EFI booting and not etc. If vista supports efi directly I'm more inclined to go that route. Anyone else having these problems at all? Thanks in advance Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/42123-vista-no-play-nice-with-power-managment/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Fogge Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 According to Microsoft, there is EFI support in Vista x64. However, it does not currently support booting from a GPT Partition. As far as the power management issues, you need to install the Intel Chipset driver and it will work just fine (does on a MBP C2D). Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/42123-vista-no-play-nice-with-power-managment/#findComment-301088 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrrjrr Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 Would a MBP C2D be "64-bit" enough to run x64 Vista if there were ways around EFI and GPT problems? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/42123-vista-no-play-nice-with-power-managment/#findComment-301124 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Fogge Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 I am running Vista x64 on my Macbook Pro C2D right now, however have not been able to get it to boot from GPT. Everything is under MBR with BIOS Extensions. That being the case, it still runs just fine. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/42123-vista-no-play-nice-with-power-managment/#findComment-301330 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrrjrr Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 I thought I read somewhere that there was an update to BootCamp or diskutil or machine firmware (?) that allowed for a hybrid GPT/somethingelse partition table. Is that still beyond what Vista can handle? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/42123-vista-no-play-nice-with-power-managment/#findComment-301350 Share on other sites More sharing options...
erbic Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 (edited) The hybrid MBR/GPT table update thing didn't help with that, unfortunately. What the hybrid partition table does is this: It creates a "shadow" MBR on the disk (for compatibility) which should exactly match the GPT partition sizes. When you boot something requiring MBR, like Windows, it sees the "shadow" MBR and ignores the GPT, and is thus able to boot. This scheme poses some problems as well. For example, using a utility such as gparted can screw up your drive. Here's why: Gparted and other (windows/linux-based) partition utilities don't like GPT, and see the shadow MBR. So when they're changing partition sizes around, the utilities change the shadow MBR but don't touch the GPT. This can screw things up a bit, since the data is no longer where the GPT says it should be. Supposedly, this can be fixed by running gptsync. I haven't tried it, and I'm not willing to {censored} around with Gparted a second time and risk screwing my near-perfect Vista install. Again. I think I explained that fairly well. If I screwed up, someone correct me. Edited February 13, 2007 by ErBiC Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/42123-vista-no-play-nice-with-power-managment/#findComment-301561 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrrjrr Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 So if one were to wipe the hard drive, then partition it from scratch as just MBR, and then install Vista, it would be able to boot and use the drive? I understand this would preclude you from running OSX on the same machine, but it would make for a sweet Vista laptop if you could do this. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/42123-vista-no-play-nice-with-power-managment/#findComment-301573 Share on other sites More sharing options...
erbic Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 I don't think so. The way Boot Camp works is that the computer boots with EFI, then starts BIOS emulation when you pick a non-Apple startup device. EFI requires a GPT partition to boot. If the HDD was pure MBR without the hybrid GPT/MBR, I don't think it would work because EFI wouldn't like it. I'm not entirely sure about that, maybe someone more knowledgeable than me could clarify. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/42123-vista-no-play-nice-with-power-managment/#findComment-301755 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirmanPika Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 I don't think so. The way Boot Camp works is that the computer boots with EFI, then starts BIOS emulation when you pick a non-Apple startup device. EFI requires a GPT partition to boot. If the HDD was pure MBR without the hybrid GPT/MBR, I don't think it would work because EFI wouldn't like it. I'm not entirely sure about that, maybe someone more knowledgeable than me could clarify. You can use Vista all by itself with an MBR. I've done it. You can also use OSX on an MBR Partitioned HD. I currently have OSX and Vista running on my iMac and MacBook Pro with MBR partitions. To get OSX on it I created an image of the OSX partition before doing anything to the machine, then I used the terminal to manualy create an HFS+ and MSDOS Partition and reload the OSX image onto the HFS+ Partition. After that I just ran the Vista install and put it on the MSDOS partition. No bootcamp involved. As for power management, grab the latest intel chipset inf drivers and latest ATI video drivers for vista. They help. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/42123-vista-no-play-nice-with-power-managment/#findComment-302333 Share on other sites More sharing options...
erbic Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 Hm... guess Disk Utility is misleading then. When you're picking the partition scheme, it makes a big deal out of the "fact" that Intel Macs can only boot from GPT. And now I find out it's wrong. Bleh. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/42123-vista-no-play-nice-with-power-managment/#findComment-302427 Share on other sites More sharing options...
-=Jeff=- Posted April 25, 2007 Share Posted April 25, 2007 As for power management, grab the latest intel chipset inf drivers and latest ATI video drivers for vista. They help. So which Intel Chipset drivers are correct for a MBP C2D?? I have Vista installed and noticed power management did not work like it should when on battery Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/42123-vista-no-play-nice-with-power-managment/#findComment-353306 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyLexx Posted April 25, 2007 Share Posted April 25, 2007 As for power management, grab the latest intel chipset inf drivers and latest ATI video drivers for vista. They help. Well, I can't confirm that: I've installed the latest Intel chipset drivers as well as various versions of ATIs mobility drivers for Vista (which are apparently no longer available on their website) on my C2D MacBook Pro. But neither the SpeedStep of the CPU nor the PowerPlay Features of the ATI gpu seem to work properly on my two systems. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/42123-vista-no-play-nice-with-power-managment/#findComment-353658 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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