Internet_Floozy Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 Is there a known problem with the iso files available through bit torrent. The disk boots up, I format the hard drive properly then customize the install to include the patches and it gets to the end of disk verifaction and then stops. When I try to skip the verification in just stops instantly and says to reboot. Is there a way to compare my disk contents to a working version or should i just try a reburn. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordlex Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 there, on DVD are two kernels. mach_kernel and mach_kernel.mikfi when you are prompt to press any key blah blah @ boot time, type: mach_kernel.mikfi then press enter. try this way... dunno. what hardware do you have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Internet_Floozy Posted November 21, 2006 Author Share Posted November 21, 2006 Im working on the PC at work. I have access to pretty much every piece of hardware available. The current system is a P4 3.0, 1gig ram, 80gb IDE drive (tried sata unsuccessfully as well) Geforce 5200 video card on an MSI Neo-3 mobo. I won't get to try your suggestion until tomorrow but I will keep you posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Internet_Floozy Posted November 22, 2006 Author Share Posted November 22, 2006 I hit F8 for advance options and typed mach_kernel.mikfi then the screen flickered and it took be to the prompt to press any button to install or F* for advance options. Is it doing something different? I'm going ahead and trying anyways since i know it won't be answered ASAP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Internet_Floozy Posted November 22, 2006 Author Share Posted November 22, 2006 Alright that didn't make a difference. It fails the disk check before it begins to install at like 99% so im thinking a bad burn. Im actually going back to try 10.4.7 since i have a copy of that as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordlex Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 yes, try 10.4.7 then try to update Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Internet_Floozy Posted November 22, 2006 Author Share Posted November 22, 2006 I didnt have 10.4.7 laying around so i went right back to 10.4.6 then updated to 10.4.7. Getting an error for the ac97 drivers but thats not a major concern right now. I also have the update to 10.4.8 downloading so i will do that and its all good. thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arenared Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 skip the disk check.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NET Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 skip the disk check.... my 10.4.8 Jas from deamons is f***ing like little whore, sorry for those words but i was downloading it for a week (in the meantime people have downloaded from me over 18GB of the torrent, next time i'll buy a mac and dont want to have anything to do with script kidies whoi only wants to get not to give (i was seeding with over 350KB/s and gettin 9-20 Kb/s thats a kind of joke) at the end the iso is not booting at all, only the grey apple and stops , with -v it saisIOAPIC ver 0x20 blahblahblah and nothing i have got almoast exact hardware like macbook have and its not working (i'm very pised off cause i have delated old 10.4.7 slice to fresh install of thise. (the old instal i have made by my self and was working grate) right now im out of the system with not working iso, jas and semthex should first betatest the iso and than give it to the people, right now 10.4.8 is a piece of {censored} (if you do not have the hardware like the "developers have" sorry for my english cause i'm verry extremely pised off on the people who have made this {censored}! any ideas what may be wrong ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 The 10.4.8 iso works fine, you just need to know what you're doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammjet Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 First thing seems that the iso may be corrupt based on error of trouble reading XML files. There are MD5 and SHA1 hashes for the iso on Demon. See if your iso matches them. Also, try to modify APIC settings in BIOS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiegoMax Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 The 10.4.8 iso works fine, you just need to know what you're doing. That is not true, the 10.4.8 DVD should work for unexperienced people too. If everybody starts to think like you on that matter, then there is no need for a dvd, then let's start instructing the users about how to compile from sources, and so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NET Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 That is not true, the 10.4.8 DVD should work for unexperienced people too. If everybody starts to think like you on that matter, then there is no need for a dvd, then let's start instructing the users about how to compile from sources, and so. i just finished upgrade from 10.4.4 +10.4.7 combo than 10.4.8 combo from apple, and switching the kernel to mifiki + kexts , and it works fine, strange the dvd should be fine the uTorrent have said that hash check is ok and there was no reboots and stops while download (i was seeding with ful 700kB/s and getting only 30 (but it is debate for another topic to be started) at the first boot from dvd the blue background has been shown but no language box displayed. i have rebooted the lappy and than the dvd is stopping on the place i've said before and option -v -s -f gives a lots of kext lacks. I tryed to install from another slice from 10.4.7 running but running the osinstall pkg goes smooth and in the end gives an error and is saying to trye another install. checking permisions shows many wrong perms in all /tree afther fixing it boots but there is no ata kexts and uhci kexts booting stops. i think that the iso is fu@#$!ed because afther installing from 10.4.7 runing on destination part there is no mach_kernel.mifiki but shoul be i think. or i'm making some mestakes. The every next boot besides the firs one never gets even the blue background (i just fogoten to give -v at the first time cause i was not expecting any problems with installer) and more, the booting dvd have changed in some impossible way the Ptable on y hardrive all slices were set to not formated and fixing hex in editor to the ones before (i have had the backup of ptable) didnt work. so i have lost all HD. in my opinion it's jus imposible because the system to do that need to be fully booted with working kexts and the utility must be run, so no idea what was happend. so have anybody heard about problems with i945/GMA950/IntelCoreDuo T2400/1GB DDRII 667/segate 120GB SATA/ Acer TM 3012WTMI 12,2" 1280x800, WIFI INtel abg ($#%@%) BT/ build in WEBCAM/ 5 in one cardreader/ PC Card slot x1/ gigabit broadcom/modem. in my opinion should work or second way where can i find some docs and sources for kernel/iso making to do it by my self (yes my opinion is to learn people how to compile system/software) i will newer forget my first FreeBSD compilation i 1996 ) thx for a help. BTW is there any other way to fix this iso (rebuild, switch some files inside) and not to wait next 5 days for download ? (i have got 12 Mb/s connection but seeders not) i need mac for photo shooting session and my black pearl is broken send for service (burned mainboard, core duo overheating) The 10.4.8 iso works fine, you just need to know what you're doing. I think i know mate ) P.S. sorry for my writing english is not my native language and i'm most recenty speaking :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammjet Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 BTW is there any other way to fix this iso (rebuild, switch some files inside) and not to wait next 5 days for download ? Before downloading it again, why not verify the checksums I suggested. Will take all of 10 minutes. Go back to Demon and read the description of the iso. It will give you both MD5 and SHA1. Open Terminal and type: md5 (followed by a space), then drag the iso into Terminal and hit <Enter> To do SHA1, type the following and drag the iso: openssl dgst -sha1 (followed by space) and drag iso into Terminal and hit <Enter> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NET Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 First thing seems that the iso may be corrupt based on error of trouble reading XML files. There are MD5 and SHA1 hashes for the iso on Demon. See if your iso matches them. Also, try to modify APIC settings in BIOS it looks like broken, but sais hash check and md5 exact, no idea, bios is veryvery cuted in that lappy (!##~#~!@$) i supposed that on the iso there is 10,4,4 system and than it is patched by installer with 10.4.8 combo by apple and afther that the kernel is switched, i'll trye to check if i can switch the parts of the iso by my self to make a working one, but no docs i avaible so i must do it "blind" , but thx 4 help, there is no possibility to download the iso ones again using torrent network, im on my way with GPRS connection and only can download via console to my ftp account on virtual serv, but i do not know anyone who would like to give an acces via ftp :") so i must use fu@#%$!@g windows cause adobe don't works on *BSD any idea about docs how to build the iso ? and where the kernel sources are ? Before downloading it again, why not verify the checksums I suggested. Will take all of 10 minutes. Go back to Demon and read the description of the iso. It will give you both MD5 and SHA1. Open Terminal and type: md5 (followed by a space), then drag the iso into Terminal and hit <Enter> To do SHA1, type the following and drag the iso: openssl dgst -sha1 (followed by space) and drag iso into Terminal and hit <Enter> I'll trye, thx Sorry for my bad bechavior but i'm under pressure of time, and it is the reason of nerv. :/ I'm dev too cince 90's but lin/bsd P.S. I will install and pimp back 10.4.7 and will just change the ver and run r2d2 for 10.4.8 apps to be working (eg. aperture) and than wil upgrade to 10.4.8 and switch the kernels if i will not fix the iso Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammjet Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 Use Paulicat method to get 10.4.8: http://paulicat.freeflux.net/blog/archive/...rade-guide.html - it starts with 10.4.7 working installation. Drag kernel off root directory of DVD, or use Pacifist to open the packages on DVD located at /System/Installation/Packages Mifki kernel on that DVD is last he made of 8.8.1. Semthex has continued to develop kernel and much, much newer ones are available. Use Prasys' updater to get latest Semthex kernel: http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=33039 or go to IRC channel #kernel and ask for it. To get to IRC, on forum window - top, click Chat. Next page, click "forum". When Java IRC client is ready, click Channels. Select #kernel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NET Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 Use Paulicat method to get 10.4.8: http://paulicat.freeflux.net/blog/archive/...rade-guide.html Drag kernel off root directory of DVD, or use Pacifist to open the packages on DVD located at /System/Installation/Packages Mifki kernel on that DVD is last he made. Semthex has continued to develop kernel and much, much newer ones are available. no {censored}, i must say that you are good mate, cince year nobody has answered my question without fu#$ing about how big guru he is, I must say i like U (nothing betwen the words i'm hetero) . BTW. is there any documentation project connected with OSX86 ? like howto in linux/bsd ? if not i might have some time to give it to the community and make some FAQ base with rules how to do things, we need to make it more systematic and easy to "eat" by others. or help in something in my freetime, cheers i'll write how it works Use Paulicat method to get 10.4.8: http://paulicat.freeflux.net/blog/archive/...rade-guide.html - it starts with 10.4.7 working installation. Drag kernel off root directory of DVD, or use Pacifist to open the packages on DVD located at /System/Installation/Packages Mifki kernel on that DVD is last he made of 8.8.1. Semthex has continued to develop kernel and much, much newer ones are available. Use Prasys' updater to get latest Semthex kernel: http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=33039 or go to IRC channel #kernel and ask for it. To get to IRC, on forum window - top, click Chat. Next page, click "forum". When Java IRC client is ready, click Channels. Select #kernel. I'm on irc cince 1989 on ircnet and efnet using irssi. i'm very old man mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammjet Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 I'm on irc cince 1989 on ircnet and efnet using irssi. i'm very old man mate I'm older. Rather than make me look up network name (irc.macspeak.net) and have you configure your IRC client for one conversation, thought it would be easier on both of us if just told you how to get there from here. This forum and its wiki are the only documentation of the project so far. Check Tutorials/Genius Bar for general info. Mifki released source and then left. Semthex keeps improving kernel. He released early source but now will only do so when he is done fiddling. DaemonES released a kernel based on Mifki - don't think he released source but might if asked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NET Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 I'm older. maby , hmm, i have fixed the dvd, i have fixed the fu!$!#$ install made by the dvd 10.4.8 , and on another slice i have made an upgrade from 10.4.7 to 10.4.8 using the 10.4.8 combo and switching the kernel and adding the kext's all works fine system boots but in both situations and installations (native dvd and upgrade) i have got the same problem with both kernels (sem's and mifiki) booting stops in the same place (using normal boot, -f-x , -f -s makes no difference) What can i change in kexts or boot string to fix it ? riht now both install have got the same problem BTW. i'll contact you about the doc's i can buy a domain and/or give some space for the beggening on my server (140 MB/s full sql/postgre support, php) and whatever to start the documentation/howto project + my work to project and bvuild the system) but i'll speak on irc about it as fast as i'll get my installs working P.S. booting with old 8.4.1 kernel makes the lappy rebooting by it self (no r2d2 in system cause there was no need before upgrade) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe75 Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 I would recommend having r2d2 .kext and try booting with (cpus=1), you may need to update the 950 .kexts after you get past the booting problems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NET Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 I would recommend having r2d2 .kext and try booting with (cpus=1), you may need to update the 950 .kexts after you get past the booting problems with cpus=1 i'll get this: sox for size but i own EOS Dig. SLR and that's the lowest size i can get, and I haven't got any soft under win (usualy using osx +aperture ) i'll trye to make another install of "old" 10.4.4 upgrade it to 10.4.7 than put on it jas 10.4.8 with r2d2 and old 8.4.1 kernel, when i get the stable system i'll start fixing the problems with native install (i have got acces do hfs disks only from working osx) my friend with laptop with the same hardware has got the same problems, so i think that's more common. i'll write as soon as i'll get it working, maby someone will find something helpful here in my fights cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammjet Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 Disable PC Card slot in BIOS or remove the PCCard kext Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NET Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 Disable PC Card slot in BIOS or remove the PCCard kext ok , removing PC Card kext helped in booting into a system (to both native and upgraded from 10.4.7 system), and using the cpus=1 flag helped to resolve temporary the first APIC error (boot in -v -f -s cpus=1 :if it is possible to boot in single mode) (or boot any working installation DVD and use: utility/terminal) mount -uw / cd / cd /Volumes/Your_Volume_Name/System/Library/Extensions mv /IOPCCardFamily.kext /path_to_your_volume/System/Library/Extensions/IOPCCardFamily.kext.backup cd .. rm -Rf Extensions.mkext rm -Rf Extensions.kextcache reboot now now you can boot to install but still with cpus=1 flag in boot prompt while the first boot on upgraded system you will see a lots of mesages saying that something cannot start (doesn't mather what) please wait to the moment when the system will reboot it self , its normal at the first time next boot is steel with cpus=1 and here are next problems upgraded system is booting to a blue background, everything including pointing devices is working, but there is no login window (i have pressed enter[it should accept first user from the list] than blindly written the password on my keyboard, and pressed enter [that should log me in] and it worked, i have noticed high HDD activity like when the user interface is loading but steel nothing besides the blue background on the screen (i can see the mouse arrow) so i'm not sure , maby the desktop is avaible on external output for external CRT but i haven't got one around to check, and if that so, than it shouldn't show mouse arrow that i can moove around the screen. second install ( the one made from this broken dvd and fixed by copying sem's kernel to a safe place , puting on it 10.4.8 apple patch and restoring the sem's kernel and two kexts AppleSMBIOS.kext and IOATAFamily.kext) afther remooving the IOPCCardFamily.kext as i written before, and booting with cpus=1 flag boots normaly, shows welcome screen (no cooperation with gma950 so with errors and lacks in manimations) - it can be fixed by playing with GMA950 kexts i think, so booting with cpus=1 -f -v -x is proper but touchpad don't works, and the info "plug in your keyboard, no keyboard detected" (in the welcome box usualy responsible for the keyboard configuration afther fresh install) i have connected my usb wireless mouse and it works , but i do not have keyboard nto trye in here. so: 1. why only one core and how to fix it on both installs ? 2. why no login window on upgraded install and how to fix it ? 3. why no pointing dev on the native install? - (i think i'll put back some kexts responsible for keyboard and mouse in -s mode and it may help, and i'll put back the GMA950 kexts to fix the Graphics support) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammjet Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 Click on Video link in my signature and read about Blue Screen. -v -f -s is superfluous. Single-user mode (-s) is verbose (-v) by nature. And skipping the extensions cache (-f) isn't needed either with single-user mode (-s). Just do -s. And maybe cpus=1. You never put your computer specs (other than model) in your sig. Why force me to Google it so I know what it has? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NET Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 You never put your computer specs (other than model) in your sig. Why force me to Google it so I know what it has? True, but till now there was no need to ask for a help (i'm using osx86 cince beggining of the first tryes of hacking it) I'll put ful spec in my sig today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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