rogabean Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 I'm curious... The laptop I just inherited (Gateway MX6214) has the Intel Celeron M 420, which is a 1.6GHz Yonah based Celeron. It's the Celeron version of the Core Solo: From Wikipedia: The Celeron Yonah is a 65 nm Celeron M based on the Core Solo version (single-core) of the Yonah Core. Like its predecessors in the Celeron M series, this Celeron M has half of the L2 cache (1 MiB) of Core Solo and lacks SpeedStep. This core also brings new features to Celeron M including a faster front side bus (533 MT/s), SSE3 instructions, and support for the XD bit. This, like the Celeron D Cedar Mill-512, is probably the last Intel budget processor to use the "Celeron" name. Now I'm curious... there are Core Duo's that support the 533 FSB. (the T2150 and T2250) What are the chances I could slide one of these in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korrupted Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 If it's soldered onto the mobo, then zero percent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogabean Posted September 5, 2006 Author Share Posted September 5, 2006 If it's soldered onto the mobo, then zero percent. Yeah I knew that! I don't know if this one is soldered yet... I haven't cracked open the case just yet... If it isn't soldered though.. what do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korrupted Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 If it's a socket processor, I don't see why you couldn't slip it out for a new one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogabean Posted September 5, 2006 Author Share Posted September 5, 2006 That's what I thought as well... Just don't want to drop 149.00 on a paperweight... I'm not sure what this BIOS can can not do... Time to open it up first to see if it's soldered... my old Dell was socketed... but your prolly right and Gateway prolly soldered this puppy in place. Didn't think of that.. my old Dell spoiled me since everything was user chageable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogabean Posted September 5, 2006 Author Share Posted September 5, 2006 Just to update. According to what I've read... running CPU-Z should produce a 95% chance of telling you if it's socketed or soldered. PGA is socketed and BGA is soldered... Mine says PGA and 479 Pin... so odds are I can stick a Core Duo in this machine Best news I've gotten all day. If I can get sound going... this might just be the perfect laptop for OS x86... I even stuck it next to a MBP.. very similiar in looks.. so I shoved an Apple sticker on the back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guiyoforward Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 I would be really careful - are you sure the bios would support two cores? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munky Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 Maybe you can flash it with one which does? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogabean Posted September 6, 2006 Author Share Posted September 6, 2006 No I'm not sure... which is why I could look into the Core Solo... honestly I just want SpeedStepping... otherwise the Celeron M 420 is fine in this machine... it's just a Core Solo with half the L2 and no SpeedStep. Although I don't have the machine in front of me.. I think the BIOS appeared to actually support 2 cores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogabean Posted September 6, 2006 Author Share Posted September 6, 2006 I'm curious... here's my understanding so far. The 479 and 478 are the same socket. Intel just labels for for oem and one for retail. am I correct? My main concern is that the core duo/solo uses a 667FSB while the the Celeron M (Yonah) uses a 533FSB. I'm not sure what is going to happen in this case. I'd hate to eat buying a core solo or duo. edit: have a 1.83GHz OEM Core Solo 533FSB chip coming... well shall see.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogabean Posted September 6, 2006 Author Share Posted September 6, 2006 Replying instead of editing for a bump I just opened the laptop up... you wouldn't believe how easy it is to get to the CPU on this thing... this laptop was designed with easy access in mind. Open one panel on the bottom (6 screws) and you have access to ram/cpu/fan. the hard drive is two screws and slides out. nice. anyway. it is in fact a socket and not soldered. Socket mPGA479M Comparing pins to a core solo as soon as I find an image online. Update: Pins are the exact same in this cpu as in the solo and duo. So first I try a core solo.. if all goes well I'll be looking into a core duo next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wondergod Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 I know this might sound a little stupid but have you asked gateway? I mean its quite possible they could give you an easy answer, I would email(I hate calling tech support) and just ask them....maybe they could tell you if the BIOS would even support it... BTW I would also check the BIOS version online to see if there is an upgrade for it to support Core Solo/Duo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogabean Posted September 7, 2006 Author Share Posted September 7, 2006 I know this might sound a little stupid but have you asked gateway?I mean its quite possible they could give you an easy answer, I would email(I hate calling tech support) and just ask them....maybe they could tell you if the BIOS would even support it... BTW I would also check the BIOS version online to see if there is an upgrade for it to support Core Solo/Duo. Gateway would not give me an answer... and I wanted to skirt around the issue as this machine is under warranty and do not want to admit to voiding anything. The machine has no BIOS updates as of yet, but it is my belief that the BIOS would have to at the very minimum support the Core Solo as I said before the Celeron M 420 is just a gimped version of the Yonah Core Solo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogabean Posted September 7, 2006 Author Share Posted September 7, 2006 Well I decided to contact Gateway again. This time via email. They are sticking to a stock answer that is of no help, so I suppose this is going to stick to trial and error. i can't find any decent reason why an OEM Core Solo won't work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogabean Posted September 13, 2006 Author Share Posted September 13, 2006 Update! Popped in the Core Solo last night and all is well. Bump from a Celeron M 420 @ 1.6 to a Core Solo at 1.86 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wondergod Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 Awesome...probably won't work with my pentium m... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skippyretard Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 I hate to bump an old post, but I want to know if the core solo made a big difference in speed? I was thinking of upgrading my hp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferret-Simpson Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 Hah! I can beat this! Am looking at souping my T4210 TabletPC (Core Duo) to a T4215 (Core 2 Duo) That's the only difference, and you get a jump from 32bit to 64bit in the process. CPU-Z says I'm socketed, so hopefully a direct swap should work. Screw the £180 CPU, I just don't wanna burn out the £1200 Notebook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferret-Simpson Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 Hmm. . This is interesting. Reading your system specs, you say your Yukon network works OK? That's encouraging, if I can get Darwin to install and boot, I should be able to get my network running in a UNIX! Irritatingly won't work under Linux. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferret-Simpson Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 Hmmm, I'd been slightly worried that There might be some huge untold hardware difference between the T4210 (Mine) CD TabletPC and the T4215 C2D. . . Apparently, they share the same bios (Combined flash bios upgrade) Thusly. . . Same hardware (Just a different chip) Thusly. . . UPGRADEABLE!!!!!! XD Superfast 64-bit machine, here I come! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digiplaya2005 Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 Rogabean, how by chance, did your MX6214 lappy work with OSX86 for the keyboard/touchpad? I have tried several various osx versions on my mx6214 and the keyboard or touchpad does not work no matter what! I am also assuming that OSX 10.4.8 corrects this problem, since I've only tried 10.4.3 and 10.4.6 copies. Is it possible that 10.4.8 includes the proper driver for the PS/2 bus on this model? Also I believe the root problem of my laptop's keyboard not working in OSx86 is likely because of the PS/2 bus that it has is not compatible. Am I correct? So I suppose my question is this: Did your mx6214 work out of the box for keyboard/touchpad like it was supposed to? Tom Anderson aka digiplaya2005 (you can PM me or my email is: thetechnojedi@gmail.com) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digiplaya2005 Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 UPDATE: Am going to try a 10.4.8 copy tonight or tomorrow. Will post my report on the success or, if the fates conspire against me, failure of this attempt. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digiplaya2005 Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 NEWER UPDATE: It still doesn't register keyboard/trackpad. Oh {censored}..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferret-Simpson Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 Now try the modified PS/2 kext. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digiplaya2005 Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 Already have, in fact, all the drivers this forum links to have not allowed detection of my PS/2 devices. Will have to resort to echhh...XP for now. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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