some mac Posted August 19, 2006 Share Posted August 19, 2006 run postinstall script for BSD Subsystem Were you able to find a fix for this? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/24525-leopard-and-hackintosh/page/6/#findComment-169766 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neonkoala Posted August 19, 2006 Share Posted August 19, 2006 Supposedly, from what people have told me, its possible to reverse engineer the kernel to get source code by using the Apple Kernel Debugger. However each time the kernel is updated, xcode is updated and hence the debugger. Normally one wouldn't have to use the debugger to obtain source as PPC source is readily available. However the only way to use the debugger is to have two official Intel Macs. You run the debugger on one machine and use a proxy to conenct the other to obtain the output. I can't confirm this but it is what I have been told when I was after some source code for some kexts. EDIT: Also this will mean waiting for official 10.4.5 release and the Debugger that comes with it. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/24525-leopard-and-hackintosh/page/6/#findComment-169883 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtm3dd Posted August 19, 2006 Share Posted August 19, 2006 Hi there - does anyone knoe where the CalendarShare.framework is located on the install disk Ive had a good look. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/24525-leopard-and-hackintosh/page/6/#findComment-169936 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammjet Posted August 19, 2006 Share Posted August 19, 2006 I found a CalendarStore.framework in the System/Installation/Packages/Essentials.pkg You can access it with Pacifist But can't find any "CalendarShare" Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/24525-leopard-and-hackintosh/page/6/#findComment-169954 Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidovi Posted August 19, 2006 Share Posted August 19, 2006 The only source code we can get is xnu 10.4.7, no 10.4.4 or 10.5 kernel, sorry. IMHO we can decompile the 10.4.4 kernel patch for see what need to be patched, or modify the new 10.4.7 kernel from sources. Sherry Haibara Or why dont disassemble 10.4.4 and 10.4.7 with IDA and compare the two 10.4.4 binaries, original and maxxuss cracked, to see the differences between them? maybe its not complicated to apply the changes to 10.4.7 once found on the cracked 10.4.4. Just an idea Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/24525-leopard-and-hackintosh/page/6/#findComment-169986 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.NetRolller 3D Posted August 19, 2006 Share Posted August 19, 2006 And the same technique might also be useful after the main patch is ready, and when we are making the SSE2 patch. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/24525-leopard-and-hackintosh/page/6/#findComment-170036 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franzy Posted August 19, 2006 Share Posted August 19, 2006 That would be one of the major ideas in doing this. We can also try running 10.5 on a 10.4.4 kernel. Cept' im not expertly knowledgeable about kernels and such. However, since it is still a prerelease - it should just be like cracking another Tiger update. Hopefully... My problem (and probably you guys) is that we don't actually know how 10.5 relates with the latest 10.4.7 (in terms of security against osx86). I haven't actually gotten a chance to sit down with 10.5 and 10.4.7 (hackintosh and macintosh), we may reach a breakthrough. For me, I can't seem to find the time in cracking leopard because it requires: downloading these copies, i dont hav enough dvds and test dvds, and no opendarwin source has been revealed online yet. Hopefully someone can. I'm itching to run leopard (time machine mostly) on my PCs. I dont have any apple macs!!! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/24525-leopard-and-hackintosh/page/6/#findComment-170192 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammjet Posted August 19, 2006 Share Posted August 19, 2006 and no opendarwin source has been revealed online yet. http://www.macosforge.org/ http://kernel.macosforge.org/ http://www.opensource.apple.com/darwinsource/ Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/24525-leopard-and-hackintosh/page/6/#findComment-170200 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franzy Posted August 19, 2006 Share Posted August 19, 2006 http://www.macosforge.org/http://kernel.macosforge.org/ http://www.opensource.apple.com/darwinsource/ wow you must be so smart! ROFL... hey genius, show me where it says 10.5 LEOPARD source code... Any nooblet can find Tiger source codes... Ive only been using them since august. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/24525-leopard-and-hackintosh/page/6/#findComment-170279 Share on other sites More sharing options...
troisd Posted August 19, 2006 Share Posted August 19, 2006 Did Maxxuss ever release the sources to his patches or just the binaries? E.g. SSE3 emulator, etc. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/24525-leopard-and-hackintosh/page/6/#findComment-170295 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ѕӎѳѳ₮ңӌ Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 Did Maxxuss ever release the sources to his patches or just the binaries? E.g. SSE3 emulator, etc. Dont believe so Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/24525-leopard-and-hackintosh/page/6/#findComment-170300 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldabbagh Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 Would This Help any one? Keep up the good work. Egyptian Vicker Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/24525-leopard-and-hackintosh/page/6/#findComment-170426 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanaka Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 Long Time Reader - New Poster I don't know if it helps any...however I'm going though the Leopard DVD and installing whatever I can from the pkgs.... So far XCodeTools Developer Tools installs without an OS Check...and Optional Installs also...however they break the previous versions of themselves...so iCal, iChat, etc...are broke after the install...as I type, Developer Documentation also is installing. Celeron 2.5Ghz 1GB RAM Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/24525-leopard-and-hackintosh/page/6/#findComment-170432 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuXb Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 Anybody tried booting Leopard in safe mode (-x) ? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/24525-leopard-and-hackintosh/page/6/#findComment-170538 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammjet Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 Anybody tried booting Leopard in safe mode (-x) ? Yes, but on a true Mac, press Command-X after the chime and hold until the grey screen and rotating wheel appear. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/24525-leopard-and-hackintosh/page/6/#findComment-170557 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacVen Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 Sorry for my english, if you have two partition, one whit 10.4.7 for both and normal use, and the other you copy a systen 10.5, this systen previus install in real mac, copy in dvd and later drag and drog in the second partition, now you reinstal from the dvd image in the first partiton and reapir permision, mabe this work ............. its just a idea, dont shutme please. Saludos a todos amigos. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/24525-leopard-and-hackintosh/page/6/#findComment-170752 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kolda Posted August 25, 2006 Share Posted August 25, 2006 Is there any chance to work Leopard on my PC if I have specifications like MacBook? (Core Duo, Radeon x1600 etc.) Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/24525-leopard-and-hackintosh/page/6/#findComment-174537 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuXb Posted August 26, 2006 Share Posted August 26, 2006 Is there any chance to work Leopard on my PC if I have specifications like MacBook? (Core Duo, Radeon x1600 etc.)simple answer: right now - NO. There is way more specs that would have to be met, some of which we do not even know of right now. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/24525-leopard-and-hackintosh/page/6/#findComment-174825 Share on other sites More sharing options...
troisd Posted August 28, 2006 Share Posted August 28, 2006 Q: Semjaza managed to decrypt the apps from 10.4.7... so, is it same to assume that he also managed to decrypt the 10.4.7 kernel as well? If so, then the only thing preventing us using this new 10.4.7 kernel is the actual TPM, AMD, SSE2/3 patches right? In order to simplify this process, perhaps we can do it in steps: 1) TPM patch 2) AMD patch 3) SSE2/3 patch If all that I said above is true, where can I get the decrypted 10.4.7 kernel? (or even better, how to decrypt it myself) Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/24525-leopard-and-hackintosh/page/6/#findComment-176293 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ai Haibara Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 Ok guys, this is the question. What are we doing and what we can do for hack it. In my mind, I think that we can hack the kernel with this metod. Start comparing the original 10.4.4 with 10.5 kernel, then try to see what the TPM patch do on the kernel and try to make something similar for 10.5. Then we can go forward and hack some crypted things of Leopard, such ATSServer, loginwindow and other core functions. For Finder, Dock and this things we can eventually use actuals Tiger ones. Sherry Haibara Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/24525-leopard-and-hackintosh/page/6/#findComment-179462 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franzy Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 Ok guys, this is the question.What are we doing and what we can do for hack it. In my mind, I think that we can hack the kernel with this metod. Start comparing the original 10.4.4 with 10.5 kernel, then try to see what the TPM patch do on the kernel and try to make something similar for 10.5. Then we can go forward and hack some crypted things of Leopard, such ATSServer, loginwindow and other core functions. For Finder, Dock and this things we can eventually use actuals Tiger ones. Sherry Haibara easier said then done. Don't forget, it'll take a bit to adapt the 10.5 kernel. Most likely Apple has thrown in some new tricks. Plus, probably the most time consuming, is testing experimental kernels. I think that's our biggest obstacle - the kernel. As for me, back to school = . And that means i have a lot less time to continue this. However, like i said, the kernel is key. The apps shouldn't be 2 hard. Often there isn't even security in the apps. btw, i have a feeling that the TPM patch mite just work on 10.5. Even if it doesn't, it might require only minor adjustments. I hope someone with enough time can manage to crack the kernel. In these times of turmoil, one can only dream of the full return of the one called Maxxuss... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/24525-leopard-and-hackintosh/page/6/#findComment-179986 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bikedude880 Posted September 4, 2006 Share Posted September 4, 2006 Right now, I have a fully installed (albeit non-working) install of Leopard on my PC and am highly interested in this project. @Sherry Haibara: You say that you are using the patched 10.4.6 kernel and frameworks to get the system mostly booted. I am going to try to patch the 10.5 kernel (as I have limited experience with patching files ) and will keep an updated log of whats going on in the link that I have above. Cheers! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/24525-leopard-and-hackintosh/page/6/#findComment-181380 Share on other sites More sharing options...
troisd Posted September 4, 2006 Share Posted September 4, 2006 The thing preventing further kernel progress in our hacintoshes, in Maxxuss's own words: "The Mac OS X 10.4.5 Update contains a new Darwin kernel (8.5.1). The issue with this new kernel is that it has dropped support for general Intel power management and for the LAPIC timer which is available in every modern x86 CPU. Instead, the new kernel only supports new Intel Core Duo specific features, like its enhanced power management and its HPET (High Performance Events Timers) facility. Until the support for the dropped features is again incorporated in the new kernel by some future add-on patch, the current Patch Solution restores the Kernel to 8.4.1 (from 10.4.4) after the Update." There ya go... it aint's a simple TPM, SSE3, and AMD patches. It's all about HPET, Enhanced Power Management, and possibly EFI support on the kernel. I believe this is the sole reason why Maxxuss lost interest in this matter. It requires a HUGE hack now. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/24525-leopard-and-hackintosh/page/6/#findComment-181391 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bikedude880 Posted September 4, 2006 Share Posted September 4, 2006 The thing preventing further kernel progress in our hacintoshes, in Maxxuss's own words: "The Mac OS X 10.4.5 Update contains a new Darwin kernel (8.5.1). The issue with this new kernel is that it has dropped support for general Intel power management and for the LAPIC timer which is available in every modern x86 CPU. Instead, the new kernel only supports new Intel Core Duo specific features, like its enhanced power management and its HPET (High Performance Events Timers) facility. Until the support for the dropped features is again incorporated in the new kernel by some future add-on patch, the current Patch Solution restores the Kernel to 8.4.1 (from 10.4.4) after the Update." There ya go... it aint's a simple TPM, SSE3, and AMD patches. It's all about HPET, Enhanced Power Management, and possibly EFI support on the kernel. I believe this is the sole reason why Maxxuss lost interest in this matter. It requires a HUGE hack now. Well, if anything, it gives us something to shoot for, and a little bit of incentive as well. Nothing is impossible, though what may seem impossible only takes a bit longer to figure out. I am not about to give up just yet. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/24525-leopard-and-hackintosh/page/6/#findComment-181398 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riffer Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 Its not as if we dont have the code, we have the 10.4.7 source and althoguh it does not include power managment, other sources do so merging them is just a task of linking and replacing files and its not as if Apple will ignore the mach's licence, unless they abandone it and close it off then there is still a fighiting chance for leopard. -riffer Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/24525-leopard-and-hackintosh/page/6/#findComment-193598 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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