gwprod12 Posted June 10, 2006 Share Posted June 10, 2006 I keep thinking this might be a heat issue. In windows, it gets up to about 52C playing WoW. Any suggestions on how to find out what my heat is in mac OS? Maybe someone has some idea of what temp I should be at, and if so, what cooler I might want to use... it's usually about 47C on idle. (Maybe even give me a suggestion on whether or not a 9xx CPU would run cooler/be less problematic) Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/19484-805-acts-like-crap-when-cpus2/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
bofors Posted June 10, 2006 Share Posted June 10, 2006 Actually it could be a bus speed issue, the 805 only has a 533 MHz Front Side Bus. Turning off one core means that the other one get the whole bus all the time. Anyways, 52C does not sound that hot. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/19484-805-acts-like-crap-when-cpus2/#findComment-127669 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwprod12 Posted June 10, 2006 Author Share Posted June 10, 2006 I guess that COULD be it.... except everyone says "My 805 works great in dual core mode"... either they're wrong, and it works just as crappy as mine in dual core, or there's some hardware issue I havent found yet. OH, btw. It works fine in windows. In OS X, when CPUS=2, everything is really sluggish. The circle thing in the bootscreen jerks, in CPUS=1, it's smooth. Same with dock. Also, in CPUS=2, stuff crashed a lot. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/19484-805-acts-like-crap-when-cpus2/#findComment-127670 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bofors Posted June 10, 2006 Share Posted June 10, 2006 I think you have narrowed it down to an OSx86 issue. Have you had these problems in 10.4.3? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/19484-805-acts-like-crap-when-cpus2/#findComment-127674 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwprod12 Posted June 10, 2006 Author Share Posted June 10, 2006 No. I dont think I've narrowed it down at all though. As far as I can tell, I'm the only one who's having this problem in 10.4.4/4.5/4.6 Everyone else's 805 is just perfect =[ Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/19484-805-acts-like-crap-when-cpus2/#findComment-127679 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bofors Posted June 10, 2006 Share Posted June 10, 2006 Perhaps it has something to do with your motherboard? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/19484-805-acts-like-crap-when-cpus2/#findComment-127687 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwprod12 Posted June 10, 2006 Author Share Posted June 10, 2006 Maybe, except it performed in exactly the same way on the last motherboard. Different chipset too. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/19484-805-acts-like-crap-when-cpus2/#findComment-127691 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammjet Posted June 10, 2006 Share Posted June 10, 2006 Here are some possible temperature apps. I don't know if any will work in a hackintosh. http://www.bresink.de/osx/TemperatureMonitor.html http://www.branox.com/Temperox/Temperox.html http://homepage.mac.com/takashi_hamada/Act...Dock/index.html http://shockwidgets.com/?widget=miniStat http://macbricol.free.fr/coreduotemp/ Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/19484-805-acts-like-crap-when-cpus2/#findComment-127693 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bofors Posted June 10, 2006 Share Posted June 10, 2006 Maybe, except it performed in exactly the same way on the last motherboard. Different chipset too. Well, then we have to consider the possibility that your 805 is defective. Here are some possible temperature apps. I don't know if any will work in a hackintosh. I do not think there is any temperature monitoring solution for Hackintoshes yet. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/19484-805-acts-like-crap-when-cpus2/#findComment-127695 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwprod12 Posted June 10, 2006 Author Share Posted June 10, 2006 I've considered that possibility... I just with more people with an 805 would respond so maybe I could narrow it down, lol. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/19484-805-acts-like-crap-when-cpus2/#findComment-127697 Share on other sites More sharing options...
helios Posted June 11, 2006 Share Posted June 11, 2006 I'm running an 805 @3.33GHz problem free, everything is fast and snappy. No crashes yet and well my temp is about 70C with stock cooler. I cant clock any more or else i will get cpu throttling. Oh btw do I need to have CPUS=2 somewhere in like bootplist to get dualcore support or is it activated automaticaly? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/19484-805-acts-like-crap-when-cpus2/#findComment-128005 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bofors Posted June 11, 2006 Share Posted June 11, 2006 No, OS X should automatically detect both cores. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/19484-805-acts-like-crap-when-cpus2/#findComment-128006 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boo50 Posted June 22, 2006 Share Posted June 22, 2006 i have a D805 and can confirm what both cores working without problems for me. JAS 10.4.6 install on Intel D945GNTL Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/19484-805-acts-like-crap-when-cpus2/#findComment-133294 Share on other sites More sharing options...
niteman1969 Posted June 22, 2006 Share Posted June 22, 2006 I have a D805 on a gigabyte GA-81945G-MF motherboard and everything is working fine in OSx86 10.4.6 - no freezes and fast as hell .. no overclocking here though. I am using this cpu cooler. Temperatures under windows stay in the 26-35 degrees celsius range even under high load. Have 1 gb of generic 533 ram and 2 x 200gb sata drives with beamsync off and quartz 2d extreme enabled I am getting an xbench of 98 or so - changes slightly every time i do an xbench. Xbench is always in the 97-98 bracket. Regards Niteman1969 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/19484-805-acts-like-crap-when-cpus2/#findComment-133443 Share on other sites More sharing options...
iMacME Posted June 22, 2006 Share Posted June 22, 2006 my 805D at 3.3ghz with stock intel fan runs hot under full load. above 60C after a while. Intel specs the 805D to a max of 63C, so i finally ordered the new Zalman CNPS8000 but i haven't received it yet. it was the only decent thing i could find to fit in my m-atx case. at idle/min load my 805D runs from about 40-50C. mobo hovers around 35-40C. i've had no lock ups or slow downs in either w2k3 or osx86. if anyone knows of any cpu & mobo temperature/fan monitors for osx86 i'd appreciate it. also what's a good hd temperature monitor? for either windows or osx? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/19484-805-acts-like-crap-when-cpus2/#findComment-133512 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cucamelsmd15 Posted June 23, 2006 Share Posted June 23, 2006 I'm running an 805 @3.33GHz problem free, everything is fast and snappy. No crashes yet and well my temp is about 70C with stock cooler. I cant clock any more or else i will get cpu throttling. Oh btw do I need to have CPUS=2 somewhere in like bootplist to get dualcore support or is it activated automaticaly? I see people say this, and I keep thinking, it has to be because of their case. With the stock cooler for me, @3.4Ghz, I idled at 47, and never broke 60 on load. Now with my Zalman @3.8 I idle at 39, and never break 55 on load. I dont understand why Im so much cooler than everyone else? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/19484-805-acts-like-crap-when-cpus2/#findComment-133932 Share on other sites More sharing options...
niteman1969 Posted June 24, 2006 Share Posted June 24, 2006 It's because most people only have a stock cpu fan and the fan that is built into the PSU. In my experience very few cases come with fans at the front and back of the case allowing for airflow through the case. People don't spend enough money on cooling in my opinion they go with the stock fan that comes with the processor , stick it in a cheap case that has no cooling fans, or ones so cheap and noisy they leave them disconnected. I on the other hand have my system in this aluminium case which has 2 quality fans that come with it already in the back of the case. Paired with this cpu cooler and fan the system absolutley never goes above 35 degrees C for motherboard and CPU. It was a very tight squeeze to get the gigabyte GA-8i945G-MF into this case as the optical drive bays which you have to unscrew and put your drives in, and then screw back into the case had to be juggled in at an angle to clear the massive cpu cooler. The cooler has lots of space round once everything is installed , but getting that optical caddy back in was a pain. Apart from that it is also very quiet so i can leave the computer on all night if i am downloading a hefty torrent without having to sacrifice any sleep. Regards Niteman1969 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/19484-805-acts-like-crap-when-cpus2/#findComment-134401 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boo50 Posted June 26, 2006 Share Posted June 26, 2006 i thougth what problem is not with the coller. stock coller is good enough for the usual usage (i suppose) i don't get my CPU hard working, but today i suddenly "caught" the stuttering effect. i don't know why. had have no idea why , and typing cpus=1 in boot.plist solved my problem. and i have a good case - NEXUS BREEZE http://www.nexustek.nl/breeze.htm it have a good cooling and it's noiseless. but i plan to change my stock cooler to Thermaltake (CL-P0114) Big Typhoon. and when i'll see - if osx will works good with both cores working. maybe it's really heating problem - D805 is "really HOT" processor and yesterday was a really HOT day... (over 30 Celcsius under the shadow =)) Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/19484-805-acts-like-crap-when-cpus2/#findComment-135114 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravi7791 Posted July 1, 2006 Share Posted July 1, 2006 Ah, I own the 805 too. I have the Artic Cooling Freezer 7 PRO cooler. It's great. It stays steady at around 50c in the summer, now. It's overclocked to 3.6ghz. I'm going to install 10.4.5 tonight, so I can't comment on the app to check temp in osx Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/19484-805-acts-like-crap-when-cpus2/#findComment-138083 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boo50 Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 as you can see now in my signature, i have new cooler and both cores working good. never got a stutter effect. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/19484-805-acts-like-crap-when-cpus2/#findComment-165294 Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Massman Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 both core's working fine on my 805, just a little worried though. From reading here i'm seeing people with temperatures of around 50 when under load where as i'm getting readings of around 65+ idle although this is with stock cooling. Can anyone recomend anything as i'm using a matx case which has little or no room for a bigger heat sinc and really poor air circulation. (i need to keep the side off the case to stop the fan running at full all the time!) Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/19484-805-acts-like-crap-when-cpus2/#findComment-165307 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cucamelsmd15 Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 both core's working fine on my 805, just a little worried though. From reading here i'm seeing people with temperatures of around 50 when under load where as i'm getting readings of around 65+ idle although this is with stock cooling. Can anyone recomend anything as i'm using a matx case which has little or no room for a bigger heat sinc and really poor air circulation. (i need to keep the side off the case to stop the fan running at full all the time!) I idle at 32, load at 42, but Im on water. For air, Zalman 9500, Thermaltake Big Typhoon, anything like that will work wonders. If youre case doesnt flow though, it will stifle your temps. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/19484-805-acts-like-crap-when-cpus2/#findComment-165314 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boo50 Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 if you have mATX case, i suppose a lot of coolers can't fit in your small case. maybe try TT mini Typhoon. on stock 2.66 Ghz it will be a good choise. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/19484-805-acts-like-crap-when-cpus2/#findComment-165434 Share on other sites More sharing options...
opieum Posted March 2, 2007 Share Posted March 2, 2007 FYI I have the same problem with an 805 and a 920. Temps are usually in the 30s so I know that temp is NOT an issue. I found this post last night after I fubared my install. That I can fix this CPU thing is a mystery to me. But at least I can say it is not a temp problem. But the symptoms described are the same. Prasys mentioned on IRC that this could be a timing issue. I added the fsb=133 (I have 533) to address this and see what would happen. This did not make any difference. I shut off any power mangement in the BIOS and tried a number of combination of things with no success. It seems to make no difference what I did. I am sure that this is an OS issue at this point. 2 CPUs and 2GBs of memory (with different modules swapped in to rule out memory) and I am still having this issue as well. It runs well with 1 CPU however. Just not 2. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/19484-805-acts-like-crap-when-cpus2/#findComment-314446 Share on other sites More sharing options...
helios Posted March 2, 2007 Share Posted March 2, 2007 Might be a motherboard issue... I have tried the same D805 on three different asus 945 boards without problems.. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/19484-805-acts-like-crap-when-cpus2/#findComment-314643 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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