user1121 Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 The jist. I'm seeing coded patterns in my screenshots. A solid block of color, zoomed in and I can see a repeating pattern. Someone else tell me if they're seeing this. Open an image editor, I'm using Teal. Create a.. say, 500x500 image, fill with cyan, select the center 250x250, crop. save image. Now take a screen shot of just that window (command+control+shift+4 then space to screenshot just one window, then click the color image) Create a new image from that paste. Again, select the center 250x250, crop, save. Compare the two, they're different! I then did the same thing on a friend's powerbook. He gets no noticable "patterns" when the same procedure is followed. Are we seeing a pattern from the screenshot because Apple has screenshots embeded with some kind of data or just because we dont have official drivers? Try it, post if you see it or not and what you are using to get video support so I can see if it's throughtout the OS, or just the generic video drivers. Attached. Left is straight save from Teal, Right is screenshot. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/1437-secret-info-collected-or-video-problem/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
user1121 Posted August 29, 2005 Author Share Posted August 29, 2005 Has anyone done this to see if its just my setup or all of them, it's bothering me enough that i'm not using my osx86 install until I can figure it out. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/1437-secret-info-collected-or-video-problem/#findComment-9175 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sigxcpu Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 mmm... are you expecting us to see anything in that thumbnail? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/1437-secret-info-collected-or-video-problem/#findComment-9177 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajkosto Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 I get patterns in my screenshots too,and when viewing other peoples screenshots,they just dont seem to notice cuz of their gamma settings Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/1437-secret-info-collected-or-video-problem/#findComment-9243 Share on other sites More sharing options...
user1121 Posted August 29, 2005 Author Share Posted August 29, 2005 mmm... are you expecting us to see anything in that thumbnail? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> When I save that on my PC and zoom in, I can see a great different in the direct save, versus the screenshot. If other people are having it, it could be that the screenshots are bad from poor video support, if screenshots depend on video cards, or that apple has laced the screenshots from the Dev OS with some kind of identifying information. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/1437-secret-info-collected-or-video-problem/#findComment-9284 Share on other sites More sharing options...
joelogic Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 When I save that on my PC and zoom in, I can see a great different in the direct save, versus the screenshot. If other people are having it, it could be that the screenshots are bad from poor video support, if screenshots depend on video cards, or that apple has laced the screenshots from the Dev OS with some kind of identifying information. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I highly doubt the latter. I have this and have seen it around as well. Could be the video drivers, color scheme, I'm not real sure. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/1437-secret-info-collected-or-video-problem/#findComment-9489 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgmccollum Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 Screenshots floating around of the PPC beta of Tiger had the same pattern. I think I recall the Panther beta having the same type of pattern too. I am guessing it is your IP address encoded into the image. Makes it easy to track people breaking their NDA. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/1437-secret-info-collected-or-video-problem/#findComment-9492 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swad Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 LOL - IPs encoded into the picture. That's rich. Question - what do they do for those who haven't connected to the internet? :-) Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/1437-secret-info-collected-or-video-problem/#findComment-9497 Share on other sites More sharing options...
joelogic Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 LOL - IPs encoded into the picture. That's rich. Question - what do they do for those who haven't connected to the internet? :-) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Oh geez. This is hilarious. You guys sometimes. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/1437-secret-info-collected-or-video-problem/#findComment-9499 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swad Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 Pure FUD. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/1437-secret-info-collected-or-video-problem/#findComment-9501 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgmccollum Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 Explain why non beta releases do not have the pattern overlay on screenshots? If you think its a "driver" issues, well, you just keep thinking that... It may not be an IP address, but it could be any number of identifiable pieces of information. Fact is, betas seem to have grainy screenshots, and release versions do not. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/1437-secret-info-collected-or-video-problem/#findComment-9504 Share on other sites More sharing options...
joelogic Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 Explain why non beta releases do not have the pattern overlay on screenshots? If you think its a "driver" issues, well, you just keep thinking that... It may not be an IP address, but it could be any number of identifiable pieces of information. Fact is, betas seem to have grainy screenshots, and release versions do not. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Try running the image in vmware and take a screenshot, and see if its there. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/1437-secret-info-collected-or-video-problem/#findComment-9508 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgmccollum Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 More Info » Thread from March 2005: http://forums.macnn.com/showthread.php?p=2...ise#post2455899 PPC Screenshot: http://img191.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img191&ima...ailtypes5vq.jpg @joelogic I don't have the means to test this. My guess is it will also have grain in the screenshots. I propose everyone take a screenshot of the login screen, or something similarly consistent. My theory is every screenshot will have a different grain pattern, but multiple screenshots from the same person will have a consistent pattern. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/1437-secret-info-collected-or-video-problem/#findComment-9511 Share on other sites More sharing options...
joelogic Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 More Info » Thread from March 2005: http://forums.macnn.com/showthread.php?p=2...ise#post2455899 PPC Screenshot: http://img191.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img191&ima...ailtypes5vq.jpg @joelogic I don't have the means to test this. My guess is it will also have grain in the screenshots. I propose everyone take a screenshot of the login screen, or something similarly consistent. My theory is every screenshot will have a different grain pattern, but multiple screenshots from the same person will have a consistent pattern. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> LOL will someone load this up in vmware and test the screenshot in XP so we can bury this? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/1437-secret-info-collected-or-video-problem/#findComment-9527 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgmccollum Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 and dont take a windows screenshot of VM ware, take a Mac screenshot inside VM ware... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/1437-secret-info-collected-or-video-problem/#findComment-9529 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eykO Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 Since Aug 2005 and nobody replied? I've just done it, still grainy. So i can conclude that something's wrong with te beta's? I doubt that it's Preview so it's gotta be something else. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/1437-secret-info-collected-or-video-problem/#findComment-55190 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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