Thanks for info. I have tried andy's tool but got loads of errors FFFFF and crud. I have read the howto micky made it made it clear for me to do the codec verbs but its the tracing from the SVG to the platform and layout12.xml i get confused with. I just had another try now editing the platforms.xml file and now all inputs and outputs show as Internal Speaker with no sound coming out LOL. I am new to this, was so used to having VoodooHDA on my old laptop then tried it on this new one and boy the laptop hates it.
As for toleda's kexts even though they showed a output and input in sound prefs no sound came out which is why i knew the problem was related down to pinouts, yet when i was messing with layout 1 and 12 from native applehda i got Internal mic working.
Codec: Realtek ID 892 Address: 0 DevID: 283904146 (283904146) which means i start with 01 in my codec verb.
Jack Color Description Node PinDefault Modified Verbs
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ATAPI Unknown Mic at Int ATAPI 18 18 2577598784 01271c40 01271d00 01271ea3 01271f90
1/8 Green HP Out at Ext Rear 20 20 18957343 01471c10 01471d40 01471e21 01471f01
1/8 Grey Line Out at Ext Rear 23 23 16850964 01771c50 01771d20 01771e01 01771f01
1/8 Pink Mic at Ext Rear 24 24 27367472 01871c30 01871d90 01871ea1 01871f01
1/8 Blue Line In at Ext Rear 26 26 25243711 01a71c60 01a71d30 01a71e81 01a71f01
Speaker at Int ATAPI 27 27 2568159504 01b71c70 01b71d00 01b71e13 01b71f90
ATAPI Unknown Line In at Int ATAPI 29 29 1501757936 01d71cf0 01d71d00 01d71e83 01d71f50
Optical Green SPDIF Out at Ext Rear 30 30 21315872 01e71c20 01e71d40 01e71e45 01e71f01
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Which then verbit spat out this
New 71c Associations
Before After
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01271c40 01271c40 01271d09 01271ea3 01271f99
01471c1f 01471c10 01471d44 01471e21 01471f01
01771c14 01771c50 01771d20 01771e01 01771f01
01871c30 01871c30 01871d98 01871ea1 01871f01
01a71c3f 01a71c60 01a71d30 01a71e81 01a71f01
01b71c10 01b71c70 01b71d01 01b71e13 01b71f99
01d71cf0 01d71cf0 01d71d01 01d71e83 01d71f59
01e71c20 01e71c20 01e71d41 01e71e45 01e71f01
Reset 71d Misc to 0
New 71d Associations
Before After
--------------------------------------------------
01271d09 01271c40 01271d00 01271ea3 01271f99
01471d44 01471c10 01471d40 01471e21 01471f01
01771d20 01771c50 01771d20 01771e01 01771f01
01871d98 01871c30 01871d90 01871ea1 01871f01
01a71d30 01a71c60 01a71d30 01a71e81 01a71f01
01b71d01 01b71c70 01b71d00 01b71e13 01b71f99
01d71d01 01d71cf0 01d71d00 01d71e83 01d71f59
01e71d41 01e71c20 01e71d40 01e71e45 01e71f01
Correct 71f 02 FP to 01
New 71f Associations
Before After
--------------------------------------------------
01271d09 01271c40 01271d00 01271ea3 01271f90
01471d44 01471c10 01471d40 01471e21 01471f01
01771d20 01771c50 01771d20 01771e01 01771f01
01871d98 01871c30 01871d90 01871ea1 01871f01
01a71d30 01a71c60 01a71d30 01a71e81 01a71f01
01b71d01 01b71c70 01b71d00 01b71e13 01b71f90
01d71d01 01d71cf0 01d71d00 01d71e83 01d71f50
01e71d41 01e71c20 01e71d40 01e71e45 01e71f01
Now i have tried the bottom one and the middle one as i have a Green Misc which is 4 hence why verbit reset it to 0.
I done a table node output which then showed.
Node are Number into ()
(xx) at end of line is pointer to "Node (xx)"
only follow 1 time (xx) at end of line
NodeID is (xx) (xx) (xx) scheme
Example :
Node (9) [Audio Input] Stereo Amp-In => (34)
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Node (34) [Audio Mixer] Stereo Amp-In => (24) 25 26 27 28 29 20 21 22 23 11
=> NodeID 9 is (9-34-24)
in codecgraph svg's file => Audio input are RED's eliptic
(*) are NID connection in use when alsa make dump
Table node for : MS_16F2-codec_0-Realtek_ID_892.txt
===================================================
Node (2) [Audio Output] Stereo Amp-Out
Node (3) [Audio Output] Stereo Amp-Out
Node (4) [Audio Output] Stereo Amp-Out
Node (5) [Audio Output] Stereo Amp-Out
Node (6) [Audio Output] Stereo Digital
Node (7) [Vendor Defined Widget] Mono
Node (8) [Audio Input] Stereo Amp-In => (35)
Node (9) [Audio Input] Stereo Amp-In => (34)
Node (10) [Audio Input] Stereo Digital => (31)
Node (11) [Audio Mixer] Stereo Amp-In => (24) 25 26 27 28 29 20 21 22 23
Node (12) [Audio Mixer] Stereo Amp-In => (2) 11
Node (13) [Audio Mixer] Stereo Amp-In => (3) 11
Node (14) [Audio Mixer] Stereo Amp-In => (4) 11
Node (15) [Audio Mixer] Stereo Amp-In => (5) 11
Node (16) [Audio Output] Stereo Digital
Node (17) [Pin Complex] Stereo Digital => (Pin) Default 1091637744: [N/A] Speaker at Ext Rear => (16)
Node (18) [Pin Complex] Stereo => (Pin) Default 2577598784: [Fixed] Mic at Int ATAPI
Node (19) [Vendor Defined Widget] Mono
Node (20) [Pin Complex] Stereo Amp-Out => (Pin) Default 18957343: [Jack] HP Out at Ext Rear => (12)
Node (21) [Pin Complex] Stereo Amp-Out => (Pin) Default 1091637744: [N/A] Speaker at Ext Rear => (13)
Node (22) [Pin Complex] Stereo Amp-Out => (Pin) Default 1091637744: [N/A] Speaker at Ext Rear => (14)
Node (23) [Pin Complex] Stereo Amp-Out => (Pin) Default 16850964: [Jack] Line Out at Ext Rear => (15)
Node (24) [Pin Complex] Stereo Amp-In Amp-Out => (Pin) Default 27367472: [Jack] Mic at Ext Rear => (12) 13 14 15* 38
Node (25) [Pin Complex] Stereo Amp-In Amp-Out => (Pin) Default 1091637744: [N/A] Speaker at Ext Rear => (12*) 13 14 15 38
Node (26) [Pin Complex] Stereo Amp-In Amp-Out => (Pin) Default 25243711: [Jack] Line In at Ext Rear => (12*) 13 14 15 38
Node (27) [Pin Complex] Stereo Amp-In Amp-Out => (Pin) Default 2568159504: [Fixed] Speaker at Int ATAPI => (12*) 13 14 15 38
Node (28) [Pin Complex] Stereo => (Pin) Default 1091637744: [N/A] Speaker at Ext Rear
Node (29) [Pin Complex] Mono => (Pin) Default 1501757936: [N/A] Line In at Int ATAPI
Node (30) [Pin Complex] Stereo Digital => (Pin) Default 21315872: [Jack] SPDIF Out at Ext Rear => (6)
Node (31) [Pin Complex] Stereo Digital => (Pin) Default 1091637744: [N/A] Speaker at Ext Rear
Node (32) [Vendor Defined Widget] Mono
Node (33) [Vendor Defined Widget] Mono
Node (34) [Audio Mixer] Stereo Amp-In => (24) 25 26 27 28 29 20 21 22 23 11 18
Node (35) [Audio Mixer] Stereo Amp-In => (24) 25 26 27 28 29 20 21 22 23 11
Node (36) [Vendor Defined Widget] Mono
Node (37) [Audio Output] Stereo Amp-Out
Node (38) [Audio Mixer] Stereo Amp-In => (37) 11
so now you can understand why i am so confused.
But thanks for the tips though.
All i do know which might help is what ever codec is set and if its wrong i.e no sound output through itunes when i boot back into windows i get no sound as it seems the EC Firmware on the laptop and the NVRAM gets wrote to with the wrong codec which means i off to reboot and reflash just the EC Firmware to get the sound back on my windows install.