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[modbin]

i added finder,system preferences,text edit,tinker tool etc to Applications/utilities on the patched 10.4.1 dvd.
edit the installer utilities menu to show the apps(add exact name later).
booted via the original rc.cdrom, et voila boot cd with more utilities.
you can also edit the rc.cdrom to load finder instead of installer,but finder is very buggy.
no desktop/folders but it mounts cdrom and partitions.
and yeah i have a screensaver (but for what?)
so the main part is to add a ramdisk that points to the root account.
When i`m at home i check the exact way,for example to show all the stuff in system preferences i added a folder to system i believe.
Details will follow if someone is interessted.
This took me two evenings with the trial and error method.

[REVENGE]

Well, for what it's worth, excellent job modbin.  Unfortunately, I think the 10.4.1 system is a bit too old to be really useful , although as a recovery tool it looks like you have at least gotten it to run whatever apps you want.  Thats good.  I'm puzzled by the fact that the same method has not worked watsoever with 10.4.4+ install systems.  It looks like 10.4.3 will work with the method you described, but anything after that with encrypted system files and processor specific requirements will need some more work.  Right now, I would love a copy of 10.4.3 to work with, but I deleted the image files a while ago.  Well, if you're interested, I invite you to keep working with us modbin and if you can, try out your method with the 10.4.3 install DVD!

[modbin]

@ revenge I have only the 10.4.1 dvd so you got to do it.
but i worked a bit more and now i have dock and dashboard working.
i paste in here my notes i made during the process,i also made some screens and video
here:

http://rapidshare.de...SXlive.rar.html

now the notes:
____________________________________________________________
open osx install disk 10.4.1 in osx via hdutil or in transmac.


and other like Textedit, systemPreferences, TinkerTool; etc
for  systemPreferences you also need /System/Library/PreferencePanes/

paste in from your installation.
don`t overwrite
System/Library/Frameworks
and
System/Library/PrivateFrameworks
and
System/Library/Coresevices
and
private/var/root/desktop
and
private/var/root/Library/preferences/com.apple.desktop.plist (maby?)
and
/Library/Desktop pictures (hmm?)


edit your:

/Applications/Utilities/Installer.app/Contents/Resources/InstallerMenuAdditions.plist

to add your apps to the Installer Utilities Menu.
(Finder.app and Dock.app are in /System/Library/CoreServices)

edit
/System/Installation/CDIS/LCA.app/Contents/Resources/choices.nsarray
to show
"Starting  Mac OS X "
instead of
"Starting Installation"


Now edit "/private/etc/rc.cdrom
and create ramdisk for private/var/root just copy and paste the one for /volumes
and edit to /var/root
strange thing happend after doing this!
check out yourself what`s now on your desktop.
and i`m now untitled instead of root.

changed to /var/root/desktop
works!
now I can make a new folder ;-) on desktop.

rc.cdrom is the key to start the system!


working progs:
-Text edit
-Network utility
-System preferences
-System Profiler
-Disk utility
-Reset password
-Startup disk
-Finder (buggy)
-Tinker tool (no changes)
-Chess
-Console
-Audio Midi Setup
-Dictionary(loads)
-Calculator
-Safari
-Dock
-Dashboard

notworking progs:

-Carbon copy cloner
-iTunes(replaced the oah folder with the sse3 stuff now loads;-)
added root/music/iTunes/iTunes Music/some mp3 ,damn doesent work see scrennshot it
needs ramdisk for the folder add it in rc.cdrom!
-i think that`s because of rosetta

Hint:if can`t choose apps in the utilities menu.
quit installer,choose startupdisk,quit startupdisk,back in installer choose don`t quit.

et voilá OSX Live DVD + Install DVD
now make it perfect, mostly the Desktop thing.


Now here comes the magic:
don`t overwrite just paste in and skip existing files.
pasted in /Library
pasted in /usr/libexec
damn yeah i have a dock i have a dock!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
damn yeah i have a dashboard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That`s it for now enjoy!
modbin

[Dragon]

thank you for sharing your info mobdin.
a 10.4.7 livedvd is getting closer.

all we need to do now is figure out a way to do all this with the 10.4.3 install dvd and then we can load the updates. i think it will be much easier with this extra info. GOOD JOB !!

Dragon

[BugsB]

modbin, in order to quit the installer: go into the dock, right click on the Installer icon, force quit .. that should work.

Why don't you take the installer out of the startup items in the first place and replace it with a start up item for the finder?

[Dragon]

the instructions are there, go for it bugs.

[REVENGE]

Interesting.  Well, I'm in the process of getting 10.4.3 and I'll attempt this method using the instructions you described.  However, on 10.4.4 +, doing something like this has not worked because applications just refuse to launch.  We'll see how this goes, but good progress!

[Neonkoala]

If we get 10.4.3 working I think the next step should be 10.4.5 - no point lagging around with a 10.4.4 as 10.4.5 is pretty similar. Also a 10.4.7 should not be attempted until a /real/ patch or install DVD solution appears, currently JaS has only provided us with the core components of the update - so we would fair better waiting for a more complete upgrade.

[modbin]

Quicktime now works.

bugsbunny:
"but it is based on Apple's install DVD and even launches the installer first thing (which he probably could have closed by going into the dock, right click on the Installer icon, force quit, but oh well ..)"


@ bugsbunny
watch the video and see what happens if you close the installer.
but you can edit rc.cdrom and replace installer with finder (read the first post).
The reason i leave the installer is:This live dvd is also able to install the OS ;-).

But I`m trying to edit the installer so that you can choose between live and install.

@revenge
for your 10.4.4
read the installer log file ,if your apps don`t load maby there is a hint why.
or replace installer with your app in rc.cdrom and boot with -v to see why it fails to load.
this helped me a lot.

[BugsB]

< watch the video and see what happens if you close the installer.
    I watched the video, but maybe I didn't get that part - I think the Message Window pops up?

< but you can edit rc.cdrom and replace installer with finder (read the first post).
    right

< The reason i leave the installer is:This live dvd is also able to install the OS ;-).
    oh I see, it's that way around - could have figured that out myself ..

< But I`m trying to edit the installer so that you can choose between live and install.
    that would be cool

[REVENGE]

modbin, on Jul 23 2006, 09:28 AM, said:

@revenge
for your 10.4.4
read the installer log file ,if your apps don`t load maby there is a hint why.
or replace installer with your app in rc.cdrom and boot with -v to see why it fails to load.
this helped me a lot.

Yeah I already tried, no useful info watsoever.

[modbin]

I deleted everything and made a new image to make shure my instructions are ok.
i have a hint:
System/Library/Frameworks
and
System/Library/PrivateFrameworks
and
System/Library/Coresevices
and
/Library
and
/usr/libexec
paste only the content not the folder itself and skip existing files.
always work as root.

-pasted \System\Library\SystemConfiguration (not shure)
\System\Library\QuickTimeJava
\System\Library\QuickTime

QuickTime now works


pasted in
\System\Library\PrivateFrameworks\NetInfo.framework\Versions\A\Resources\lookupd\Agents\ds.bundle
because of some reason it wasn`t copied.

-edit
\System\Library\CoreServices\Dock.app\Contents\Resources\English.lproj\default.plist
to your favorite apps in the dock.

you can add your favorite screensaver \System\Library\Screen Savers.


the finder/desktop is still buggy.
there are some errors with bootstrap server see screenshots, if someone is able to fix or has an idea please post it.
Anyone tried with 10.4.3?
http://rapidshare.de...creens.rar.html

[Dragon]

i'll try it now mobdin, can you explain how to use transmac to exchange files?

i keep trying to add the files into the dvd by dragging it from 10.4.1 into 10.4.3 install dvd (unpatched) and it copies half the files in and then says "cannot create file/folder"

lol
i have never done this before as you might be able to tell

[modbin]

I did some more work.
pasting my notes:


pasted /usr/lib

added system/library/privateframeworks/all devtools frameworks
and javakit.framework
replaced devtoolscore.framework
added usr/libexec/oah/shims
now devtools work for example threadviewer

added systemuiserver to the installer utilities menu
its in System/Library/Coresevices/
now i have spotlight and language/keyboardlayout in the menu bar

@Dragon
use hdiutil attach yourimagehere -readwrite

don`t use transmac.
don`t paste 10.4.1 into 10.4.3
install 10.4.3 mount your 10.4.3 installdvdimage using the command above and follow the instructions.


screenshots:
http://rapidshare.de...creens.rar.html

[REVENGE]

Good stuff modbin.  I just finished dling the 10.4.3 image so no more idling for me.  I'll get to work today.

[modbin]

some more news
as always I`m to lazy to rewrite so I just paste my notes below.


Notes:


removed systemuiserver from installer utilities menu
it now starts from rc.cdrom
below is the position in rc.cdrom between of PBS and postWS.
--------------------cut------------------
#
# Start the PasteBoardServer
#
START_PBS=/System/Library/CoreServices/pbs

if [ -x "${START_PBS}" ]; then
"${START_PBS}" &
fi

#
# Start the SystemUIServer
#
START_SystemUIServer=/System/Library/CoreServices/SystemUIServer.app/Contents/MacOS/SystemUIServer

if [ -x "${START_SystemUIServer}" ]; then
"${START_SystemUIServer}" &
fi

#
# Source a post-WindowServer script if present
# (This is inaccurate, the WindowServer is now started on demand.)
#
if [ -x /etc/rc.cdrom.postWS ]; then
/etc/rc.cdrom.postWS
fi

#
--------------------cut---------------------

maby put finder and dock in there too?

5 min later

works ! nice, I like OSX

--------------------cut---------------------
#
# Start the PasteBoardServer
#
START_PBS=/System/Library/CoreServices/pbs

if [ -x "${START_PBS}" ]; then
"${START_PBS}" &
fi

#
# Start the SystemUIServer
#
START_SystemUIServer=/System/Library/CoreServices/SystemUIServer.app/Contents/MacOS/SystemUIServer

if [ -x "${START_SystemUIServer}" ]; then
"${START_SystemUIServer}" &
fi

#
# Start the Finder
#
START_Finder=/System/Library/CoreServices/Finder.app/Contents/MacOS/Finder

if [ -x "${START_Finder}" ]; then
"${START_Finder}" &
fi

#
# Start the Dock
#
START_Dock=/System/Library/CoreServices/Dock.app/Contents/MacOS/Dock

if [ -x "${START_Dock}" ]; then
"${START_Dock}" &
fi

#
# Source a post-WindowServer script if present

--------------------cut---------------------

hope it also works for 10.4.3.

I made a new vmware movie,but note vmware capturing is slooooooow
try it out yourself.

http://rapidshare.de....cdrom.rar.html

modbin  

[Dragon]

wow, you're amazing mobdin... keep up the good work

[BugsB]

modbin, do you check your PMs? I offered you a free full-speed download of Myzar's 10.4.4/5 DVD install image on my costs a few days ago - please reply (before it's gone) ..

[modbin]

@bugsbunny
no such pm (but highspeed download sounds good)
10.4.1 is the only I have.
I checked pm today (first time)

did some changes in rc.cdrom


http://rapidshare.de...5/OSX3.rar.html

[BugsB]

modbin, on Jul 28 2006, 10:58 PM, said:

did some changes in rc.cdrom
http://rapidshare.de...5/OSX3.rar.html

wow, looks great. Now what I am craving to know is if draggin now works in Disk Utility once the finder is launched: in the restore window within Disk Utility, can you drag the volumes from the left window pane in Disk Utility into the textfields in the restore window in the right side?