Suprjacob Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 According to most people here, openSUSE is the OSX of Linux. And, well, I'm gonna try it. I'm on their download page right now, and was wondering, should I get the 32 or 64 bit version? I have used Ubuntu 32- and 64-bit versions on my Hac before, but didn't really notice a big difference between them. What are the differences between them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 Well, the main difference is speed and driver support (or lack of). 64-bit should give you a noticeable speed increase, but some hardware may or may not work, depending on if the manufacturer has made 64-bit Linux drivers for it. Judging by your signature, you shouldn't have any problems with finding drivers. I'd say go for 64-bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aylamrin Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 If you can indeed run full 64 bit, why even think of 32 bit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snakeeyes Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 I say go for the 64 bit version, if u want u can use the dvd and install the 32 bit version with the pae kernel if u have more than 3 gb ram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnniecarcinogen Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 I like the 64 bit version also. If you plan on installing get the DVD rather than installing from the live CD, I've had some issues with live CD installations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankOS_Scripting Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 (edited) Go ahead for 64-bits . The performances increase notably. Short answer for my 200 posts Edited July 28, 2008 by FrankOS_Scripting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprjacob Posted July 28, 2008 Author Share Posted July 28, 2008 Lol, okay. Going for 64-bit then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro17 Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 I hadn't seen this thread yet, but I suggest the 32-bit version. You'll have fewer compatibility and conflicts issues (for instance Smart failed miserably in 10.3 64-bit because of tons of conflicts). As to the speed, you'll hardly notice the difference, if at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprjacob Posted August 3, 2008 Author Share Posted August 3, 2008 Okay, after a nice install of openSUSE, I ran into a world of problems. The big one was GRUB. (Took me two days to figure out) So, I'm used to seeing this: title Windows Vista root (hd0,0) chainloader +1 savedefault makeactive and I get this with openSUSE: title Windows Vista root (hd0,1) chainloader (hd0,0)+1 what is this? wha-wha-what? i don't have a clue how that works. and well, it didn't. so i try to boot Leopard with the same setup i had when i had Ubuntu: title Mac OSX Leopard root (hd1,0) chainloader +1 savedefault makeactive and when i try to boot i get a "HFS+ Partition Error". oh what the hell, it worked with ubuntu's grub! so i tried it with openSUSE's freakish entry style. same error. this is what i learned: you cannot have the command "savedefault" with openSUSE. I don't have a clue why. It's the same version of GRUB that I had with Ubuntu, but... i dunno. NEXT ISSUE: (still unresolved) My nVidia GeForce 8800 GTS 320 MB vs. Compiz. Card works fine with nVidia drivers for openSUSE (little issue installing, but fixed). Except Compiz is all messed up. The Animations don't work at all and my toolbar/panel appears transparent in all KDE3/KDE4/GNOME setups. I dunno whats wrong with that. Ubuntu just works period. But otherwise, openSUSE looks very nice! I love the green So, Here are my Linux standings: First Place - Ubuntu (8.04) Second Place - openSUSE (11) Third Place - Fedora (9) Fourth Place - Mandriva Free (2008.0) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro17 Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 Hi Suprjacob Re booting problems: "get hold" of Acronis OS Selector, it makes your life very easy: http://www.acronis.com/homecomputing/produ...ltibooting.html You can also find a previous version (it should work) in Hiren's BootCD: http://www.hiren.info/pages/bootcd Re Compiz: I don't use it, but I agree with you: it is more trouble than it is worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnniecarcinogen Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 Okay, after a nice install of openSUSE, I ran into a world of problems. The big one was GRUB. (Took me two days to figure out) So, I'm used to seeing this: title Windows Vista root (hd0,0) chainloader +1 savedefault makeactive and I get this with openSUSE: title Windows Vista root (hd0,1) chainloader (hd0,0)+1 what is this? wha-wha-what? i don't have a clue how that works. and well, it didn't. so i try to boot Leopard with the same setup i had when i had Ubuntu: title Mac OSX Leopard root (hd1,0) chainloader +1 savedefault makeactive and when i try to boot i get a "HFS+ Partition Error". oh what the hell, it worked with ubuntu's grub! so i tried it with openSUSE's freakish entry style. same error. this is what i learned: you cannot have the command "savedefault" with openSUSE. I don't have a clue why. It's the same version of GRUB that I had with Ubuntu, but... i dunno. NEXT ISSUE: (still unresolved) My nVidia GeForce 8800 GTS 320 MB vs. Compiz. Card works fine with nVidia drivers for openSUSE (little issue installing, but fixed). Except Compiz is all messed up. The Animations don't work at all and my toolbar/panel appears transparent in all KDE3/KDE4/GNOME setups. I dunno whats wrong with that. Ubuntu just works period. But otherwise, openSUSE looks very nice! I love the green So, Here are my Linux standings: First Place - Ubuntu (8.04) Second Place - openSUSE (11) Third Place - Fedora (9) Fourth Place - Mandriva Free (2008.0) Do it manually like you would in ubuntu "zypper install nano && sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst" in the command line (or use the yast bootloader utility to edit configuration files)and put: title OSx86 root (hd1,0) makeactive chainloader +1 (using your drive/partition ofcourse) then use yast's 'bootloader utility' to make one default or change the position in the grub menu. On Compiz, did you follow the openSUSE wiki or manually install? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprjacob Posted August 4, 2008 Author Share Posted August 4, 2008 yeah, that entry is what i have for OSX. and there is no nano program btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro17 Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 there is no nano program btw. Yes, there is one right in the main repo. Did you configure the package manager? My take: use something more user friendly anyway, like KWrite if you use KDE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprjacob Posted August 5, 2008 Author Share Posted August 5, 2008 i always used GEdit to edit the menu.lst. even in KDE. i tried using the bootloader thing in YAST, but that doesn't even do anything (doesn't touch menu.lst at all, so not sure what's wrong there) And I don't seem to understand the package manager? I'm used to Synaptic lol. How do I configure it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnniecarcinogen Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 there should be a 'edit configuration files' option and you can select the menu.lst in the yast bootloader tool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro17 Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 And I don't seem to understand the package manager? I'm used to Synaptic lol. How do I configure it? You should have been offered to configure it at first boot. If not, read this: http://forums.opensuse.org/how-faq/390648-...tion-fails.html (If you can't read it because you are unregistered, let me know). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprjacob Posted August 5, 2008 Author Share Posted August 5, 2008 You should have been offered to configure it at first boot. If not, read this: http://forums.opensuse.org/how-faq/390648-...tion-fails.html (If you can't read it because you are unregistered, let me know). Oh. Wow, thank you. I guess I could have searched... I thought there was something weird about only having three repos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro17 Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 Oh. Wow, thank you. I guess I could have searched... I thought there was something weird about only having three repos Yeah, this matter annoys me. I reported a bug but they said it was a feature! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprjacob Posted August 5, 2008 Author Share Posted August 5, 2008 Why is not having an auto-config a feature? They should work on that. Maybe get a selection menu with every Repo on those pages in their wiki. That would work nice, not having to manually enter the URLs like I just did But otherwise, cool. Everything is working great now. I even got Compiz to work. On Ubuntu, I absolutely loved GNOME and hated KDE/Kubuntu entirely. On openSUSE, GNOME is just terrible looking. They completely ruined it. And I love openSUSE's KDE! (3.5, don't like version 4). So I'm using KDE now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro17 Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 Why is not having an auto-config a feature? They should work on that. Maybe get a selection menu with every Repo on those pages in their wiki. That would work nice, not having to manually enter the URLs like I just did That how they say it should work. But sometimes it doesn't. In that case try deleting every entry in YaST-> Software Repositories. Then openSUSE Updater (the applet) should offer you a configuration with about 20 different repos. Select everything, as you can disable them at any time. On openSUSE, GNOME is just terrible looking. They completely ruined it. Yeah, they tried to make a copy of KDE. Pretty pointless, if you ask me. Some people seem to love it, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprjacob Posted August 5, 2008 Author Share Posted August 5, 2008 Yeah. Oh well. All is good I even took a Snow Leopard wallpaper and turned it SUSE green (as the default desktop is a little too bright for me ) Here, if anybody wishes to use it: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro17 Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 Thanks! I'll add it to my (small) collection of nice wallpapers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemarqq Posted August 8, 2008 Share Posted August 8, 2008 So,i have now 4 gb memory. You think i should install the 64 bit Opensuse?Is it worth??Does it make any difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snakeeyes Posted August 8, 2008 Share Posted August 8, 2008 I would say 64 bit is worth it cause it will take better advantage of your hardware but if u use he dvd then u can install 32 bit with the PAE kernel to detect all 4gb of ram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro17 Posted August 8, 2008 Share Posted August 8, 2008 So,i have now 4 gb memory. You think i should install the 64 bit Opensuse?Is it worth??Does it make any difference? Patrick Volkerding has never created a 64-bit version of Slackware. That must mean something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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