nonppc Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Is it common practice for the owners to block users without notification and when the user attempts to address the issue with them they are ignored? The blockage also affects others users because they are blocking a range of IP's and the IP's belong to other users. I have no issues with blocking anyone who deserves to be blocked but what has occurred is an abuse of power and this is indisputable. Myself along with a handful of other users are blocked and at no time have any questions been answered why I or others have been blocked. Reading over the previous posts I can see that the initial block wasn't because it was deserved but because those with the power initiated the block out of personal bias. I'm not interested in the antics of the unprofessional or the lack of respect provided by the staff, this all boils down to their childish behavior. I can understand the frustration instilled in a user who is blocked without reason or explanation and if I had the ability I would spend my time attempting to destroy the InsanelyMac website in retaliation of this abuse of power and general lack of respect. I have had to mask my IP just to gain access to this site just to post this message because of their stupidity and in doing so risk them blocking an IP that belongs to someone else who might be frequenting their site and frankly I don't care if they do. I also understand why attendance has dropped off considerably here, far too much drama and the majority is cause by those in power who do nothing but abuse it. People currently in power have no business having any power because they cannot effect the use of the power bestowed upon them in a fair and rational manner. Freedom of speech to discuss issues related to the advancement of the X86 project if one cannot express their views without fear of retaliation. I have said nothing untruthful, I state facts, the owners here are unreachable and or couldn't be bothered responding in a mature and intelligent manner and this says a lot about the integrity of the owners and has nothing to do with me. I make these statements without bias and without prejudices, I state it like it is. Will this ever be corrected or resolved, highly unlikely unless the entire staff becomes accountable for their actions and attitudes and must show justification for any action taken which also includes clear communication which to date has not occurred. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/87384-what-is-wrong-with-the-owners-of-insanelymac/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
michrech Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 I am not able to speak for those that run/own this forum/web site, however, I can tell you that they are paying the bills. Not you, nor the rest of us (unless they are accepting donations). They don't have to answer to you, me, or anyone else. This space is provided free of any charges to those who use it (save for some unintrusive banner advertisements). Short answer is, they don't have to respond to you. It sucks that some people can be that way, but they may very well have good reasons for not having replied to you thus far. There are a number of ways to get around the block, if it is just an IP block, starting with proxies (web based ones like those provided by stupidcensorship.org are a good place to start). Another option for you is to use another forum hosted/owned by someone else. There is at least one other that I'm aware of. Also, you *could* start your own, if you wanted. The more places to get all the good information provided by all the contributers, the better! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/87384-what-is-wrong-with-the-owners-of-insanelymac/#findComment-622269 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean-Philippe Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 they are paying the bills. I really doubt they can't make any money from this website. There is google ads on all pages and this usually pays A LOT MORE than bandwidth and hardware cost for that kind of website. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/87384-what-is-wrong-with-the-owners-of-insanelymac/#findComment-623447 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redliner Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 Being an active member on over 10 forums for the last 3 years: -Tone is often very difficult to percieve. -Mods do not have the time to deal with everything that comes up, especially on the bigger boards. --sometimes that means they simply ip ban the person, which is very lazy...but given the state of this forum it's understandable to hust ip ban someone. Now if an issue has been brought up, dealt with in PM's etc... and then they ban you without finishing the conversation, we have a serious problem...of cousre that assumes that both parties are getting alone 100% (being civil). Another note: there are no "staff"...only a group of individuals who moderate, and in general keep the boards clean. There is a common principle among forums, "Welcome to my home, thanks for signing the Terms and Aggreements...I hope you enjoy your stay." We are all guests on here. and this is not a democracy. to the Moderators: Please clarify my post as needed...but plesase do not remove this thread, simply relocate it to the proper forum. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/87384-what-is-wrong-with-the-owners-of-insanelymac/#findComment-624013 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonppc Posted February 15, 2008 Author Share Posted February 15, 2008 Being an active member on over 10 forums for the last 3 years: -Tone is often very difficult to percieve. -Mods do not have the time to deal with everything that comes up, especially on the bigger boards. --sometimes that means they simply ip ban the person, which is very lazy...but given the state of this forum it's understandable to hust ip ban someone. Now if an issue has been brought up, dealt with in PM's etc... and then they ban you without finishing the conversation, we have a serious problem...of cousre that assumes that both parties are getting alone 100% (being civil). Another note: there are no "staff"...only a group of individuals who moderate, and in general keep the boards clean. There is a common principle among forums, "Welcome to my home, thanks for signing the Terms and Aggreements...I hope you enjoy your stay." We are all guests on here. and this is not a democracy. to the Moderators: Please clarify my post as needed...but plesase do not remove this thread, simply relocate it to the proper forum. Yes I agree we are all guests here but that doesn't change the facts. 1) I am blocked 2) I have not violated the UA 3) no mod has sent a message telling me I am being blocked or banned (lack of courtesy) 4) I have attempted to address this issue with the mods but they have never responded (lack of respect) 5) the blocking/banning action taken which has affected me was prejudicial and or biased (abuse of power) The sad thing is that I know who some of these mods are and it would be almost impossible to convince me that if they took any action against any user that they were acting in the best interest of the forum or that they did not in some way instigate the trouble that they claim warranted the action they took. I've heard comments from the mods that they banned the party in question because he did not like someone that the mods liked and then found it amusing to continue with their insulting and childish behavior outside of the forum. I shouldn't have to jump through hoops to come here any more than anyone else has to, to force me to do so raises some serious questionable abilities to conduct themselves withdecency, courtesy or respect towards another user. It's not right to invite someone into your home and then treat them as anything less than you expect to be treated. I now agree with many that there are very few mods here if any who posess the skills to effectively carry out the duties they have been charged with and to do it without bias or prejudice. My opinion is simple, as long as I need the information here I will do nothing to interfere with the functioning of this place but, if their comes a time where I am privy to alternate access or information that allows the destruction of this forum/site I will be passing this along to the person who has been blocked/banned because it is my opinion that they have been treated unfairly by the powers that be. If action is taken because I voice my opinions that is a sad sign, if I am further blocked or banned because some idiot has the power and doesn't like my topic, that is a sad sign and I can pretty much guarantee that any action take will not at any time include a discussion of any infractions (I violate none that I can find) or what anyone else would consider to be professional behavior by the person(s) taking the actions. The agreement you check when you register here doesn't give them the right to abuse you, they do that all on their own knowing there is little you can do about it, hard to have any recourse when the only option of recourse is to deal with the moron who has treated you poorly and unfairly to begin with and as history has proven, ignored entirely because they are not competent. I cannot in good conscience promote the use of this site to anyone because I have seen no evidence that the owners are interested in anything more than putting coin in their pockets at any expense or that those with powers to operate this place can do so in a mature and professional manner without being completely disrespectful and disregard the effects that their actions can have on another individual. Oh, that's right, this is their place, I have no rights to be treated as a person or expect to be treated with any kind of courtesy and respect, I only have the right to know that eventually I will be abused by someone in power here and unjust action taken without the possiblility to resolve the issue in a fair and respectful manner. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/87384-what-is-wrong-with-the-owners-of-insanelymac/#findComment-625176 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hagar Posted February 15, 2008 Share Posted February 15, 2008 Impressive.. nonppc, you have 3 posts here, the first one, from 2006, violates the rules by requesting warez download links. The other 2, in this thread, are so vague, circuitous & inflammatory that I can't even slightly understand what you are trying to say, and must simply assume that you are attempting to stir up trouble for your own amusement. (flaming, a breach of rules & etiquette) I won't go into the fact that you make veiled threats against Insanelymac, or that you've posted this in entirely the wrong forum, (both violations) but let me just conclude with what I can see, namely that you have done nothing right here, and appear to have no valid point to make. (moved to forum information & feedback) Oh, & p.s. you claim to have brought your issue to the moderators, well, I've never heard of you before. I can assure you that any reasonable contact with the moderators is taken into due consideration & responded to. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/87384-what-is-wrong-with-the-owners-of-insanelymac/#findComment-625186 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel Posted February 15, 2008 Share Posted February 15, 2008 lol.. you just got Hagowned. :censored2: Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/87384-what-is-wrong-with-the-owners-of-insanelymac/#findComment-625280 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhail Posted February 15, 2008 Share Posted February 15, 2008 In this case I would have to agree with Hagar. We do not IP Ban people for the sake of it. If there was a unjust banning then I am sure me or any of the other Admins/Mods would be happy to talk to you about the issue. But posting warez is a big no no. Also what is this about not showing respect. Before I got given my status I was treated the same as any other member here. At InsanelyMac its not a power hierarchy. People have the badges becuase they play the roles of what they do. A moderator will the treated in the same manner as a member. Nothing more and nothing less. Also if you would be so kind to PM me your IP Range so we can sort this Banning issue out Thanks - Suhail Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/87384-what-is-wrong-with-the-owners-of-insanelymac/#findComment-625408 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numberzz Posted February 15, 2008 Share Posted February 15, 2008 I would also like to add that the last user we banned happened a long, long time ago. The IP ban is so that people can't come back and make another account so they can be annoying again. Of course the regular account ban is something that we use more often and of course that is often in comparison to the IP ban. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/87384-what-is-wrong-with-the-owners-of-insanelymac/#findComment-625512 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyhighmac Posted February 15, 2008 Share Posted February 15, 2008 I agree with Suhail. Posting warez is bad, and could get this site shut down. We are all just trying to watch out for ourselves. I joined this site just to join, and now I help manage the wiki. Also, concerning the mods, I have never had any unpleasant dealings with them. As long as everyone here acts like mature adults, we can get this sorted it. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/87384-what-is-wrong-with-the-owners-of-insanelymac/#findComment-625789 Share on other sites More sharing options...
carfalkar Posted February 15, 2008 Share Posted February 15, 2008 I would also like to add that the last user we banned happened a long, long time ago. The IP ban is so that people can't come back and make another account so they can be annoying again. Of course the regular account ban is something that we use more often and of course that is often in comparison to the IP ban. The IP ban doesn't seem to do what you say it does... >;o Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/87384-what-is-wrong-with-the-owners-of-insanelymac/#findComment-625968 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 The IP ban doesn't seem to do what you say it does... >;o Hello, Ramm. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/87384-what-is-wrong-with-the-owners-of-insanelymac/#findComment-626435 Share on other sites More sharing options...
macgirl Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 -Mods do not have the time to deal with everything that comes up, especially on the bigger boards.to the Moderators: Please clarify my post as needed...but plesase do not remove this thread, simply relocate it to the proper forum. I can't read all the subforums any day, I try to sweep most of them but there are too many messages, I do a lot of cleaning in the Tutorials (Genius Bar) forum cause new users tend to not read guidelines or even Rules, and in that forum the header says it very clear, "no questions here" and the first post of some users is a question there. PS we don't ban people or IPs ramdomly or just for amuse. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/87384-what-is-wrong-with-the-owners-of-insanelymac/#findComment-626601 Share on other sites More sharing options...
carfalkar Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 Hello, Ramm. wallhax. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/87384-what-is-wrong-with-the-owners-of-insanelymac/#findComment-627980 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro17 Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 Hello, Ramm. Ramm is back? Run for your life Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/87384-what-is-wrong-with-the-owners-of-insanelymac/#findComment-628285 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac-mini Posted February 18, 2008 Share Posted February 18, 2008 Hello, Ramm. omg proxy? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/87384-what-is-wrong-with-the-owners-of-insanelymac/#findComment-630383 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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