Eidola Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 I now have a working ToH RC2 10.5.2 system, with one issue... When I boot, either in verbose or with the apple logo, when the system is supposed to bring up the login window or desktop the monitor goes out of sync for multiple minutes. During this time the hard drive will occasionally have some activity, but mostly it is inactive... which I thought might of meant the system had hung. However, I decided to wait a bit and see what would happen, and the system does eventually work normally. When I did the update I followed the directions and then replaced the following kexts: System.kext (to go with the 9.1.0 kernel), AppleACPIPlatform.kext, AppleSMBIOS.kext and IOATAFamily.kext Has anyone had this issue before? If necessary I can get used to the long boot as OSX has never crashed on me... so I only boot once a day. Edit: Found the issue in the system log: Feb 12 06:27:32 eidola kextd[10]: writing kernel link data to /var/run/mach.sym Feb 12 06:29:29 eidola loginwindow[23]: Login Window Started Security Agen tFeb 12 06:42:14 eidola kextd[10]: writing kernel link data to /var/run/mach.sym Feb 12 06:44:10 eidola loginwindow[23]: Login Window Started Security Agent So about 2 minutes spent staring at a monitor with no signal being sent... Does anyone know how to fix this so it doesn't always save the kernel link data? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/87163-toh-rc2-1052-very-long-boot-time/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eidola Posted February 12, 2008 Author Share Posted February 12, 2008 I did a diff on the 10.5.1 and 10.5.2 System.kext's and it seems the only difference is an increment of the version number in the plist files. The binary files seem to be unchanged. Even with the 10.5.2 System.kext I still have a two-plus minute delay at every boot... Still looking for the problem, if anyone has any suggestions I am all ears. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/87163-toh-rc2-1052-very-long-boot-time/#findComment-619782 Share on other sites More sharing options...
john119 Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 any ideas on how to fix this problem, i cant use the new kernel since im on sse2 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/87163-toh-rc2-1052-very-long-boot-time/#findComment-622162 Share on other sites More sharing options...
asdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfas Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 you are going to have to install the kernel to get rid of the long boot times (assuming you used the kalyway update) Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/87163-toh-rc2-1052-very-long-boot-time/#findComment-622176 Share on other sites More sharing options...
john119 Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 i just saw that on the bay it says for core cpu with sse3 only. I have a regular P4 with sse2, so I don't think thats gonna work. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/87163-toh-rc2-1052-very-long-boot-time/#findComment-622231 Share on other sites More sharing options...
romeo0119 Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Yep you have to install the new kernel, you can find it on the bay. I was having the same prob with the screen blackout for a few minutes, installed the new kernel, repair permission and everything now is good. Even aperture 2 is running smoothly Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/87163-toh-rc2-1052-very-long-boot-time/#findComment-622784 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamb0ne Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 the new kernel makes the delay goes away but now i cant use 2 cores.. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/87163-toh-rc2-1052-very-long-boot-time/#findComment-622810 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eidola Posted February 14, 2008 Author Share Posted February 14, 2008 Hmm, I got the kernel from the bay, however, when I try to use the hacked version I get a panic at boot... something about a machine check failure. I am using a Celeron D 320... do I need to install EFI or something for the 9.2.0 kernel to work correctly? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/87163-toh-rc2-1052-very-long-boot-time/#findComment-623397 Share on other sites More sharing options...
-aKy- Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 EFI v8 is required to run the new 9.2.0 kernel. Hamb0ne: System Profiler only shows one core, but if you check activity monitor you will see that osx still uses both cores, in system profiler its just cosmetic. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/87163-toh-rc2-1052-very-long-boot-time/#findComment-623474 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eidola Posted February 14, 2008 Author Share Posted February 14, 2008 Ahh... think they will release a 9.2.0 for us non-EFI users? Or... can I install EFI with an MBR partitioned drive with the Intel 865PE chipset and a Celeron D 320 processor? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/87163-toh-rc2-1052-very-long-boot-time/#findComment-623484 Share on other sites More sharing options...
-aKy- Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 yes you can. But you will have to use EFI v8, versions below that wont work with the kernel. Install EFI, then install new Kernel (choose Option 2) and everything should work. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/87163-toh-rc2-1052-very-long-boot-time/#findComment-623491 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eidola Posted February 14, 2008 Author Share Posted February 14, 2008 Thanks -aKy-, I will give it a try now... fingers crossed. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/87163-toh-rc2-1052-very-long-boot-time/#findComment-623499 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennyp Posted February 15, 2008 Share Posted February 15, 2008 i just saw that on the bay it says for core cpu with sse3 only. I have a regular P4 with sse2, so I don't think thats gonna work. Just used the Kaly on a P4 2.8 SSE2 Dell and no bad things happened. Other than the 2 min. blank screen. That is with Vanilla kernel and EFI on 10.5.1 Back up and update worked for me. Kenny Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/87163-toh-rc2-1052-very-long-boot-time/#findComment-624913 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eidola Posted February 15, 2008 Author Share Posted February 15, 2008 Actually there is a release of the 9.2.0 kernel at the usual source that works perfectly with existing MBR installations, EFI not required. I no longer have a 2+ minute delay when booting. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/87163-toh-rc2-1052-very-long-boot-time/#findComment-624917 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gd96 Posted February 15, 2008 Share Posted February 15, 2008 I see that alot of people are fixing this problem by upgrading to the new kernel, I have tried 2 of the 9.2 kernels(the kalaway one and the ToH one) and I still have the problem , what am I doing wrong? An dI have verified that the right kernels were loading with the uname -a command. Help! Specs: Asus p5w dh deluxe core2quad 6600 8 gigs pqi memory 2x 320 gb 16 meg satas running in raid 0 off of a highpoint rocketraid 2310 1 sata burner 1 750 gb 16meg sata 1 xfx 7950 hacked as a quadro 5500 2x 2005fpw Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/87163-toh-rc2-1052-very-long-boot-time/#findComment-625242 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eidola Posted February 15, 2008 Author Share Posted February 15, 2008 The only one that worked for me was the one from IRC. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/87163-toh-rc2-1052-very-long-boot-time/#findComment-625553 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gd96 Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 Got it, After trying all the kernels and none of them working, and after having seen it work for so many people, I decided it was time to investigate a bit further. I sat and thought about it and came to the conclusion that with the exception of sound , video and the appleIntelCPU kext, I was running a very vanilla system. So I said, lets start breaking stuff !!! I replaced the kexts in the system with the ones found in this post http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=86167 I grabbed them from the file labeled archive.zip. Long story short, I reboot and everything is working like a charm, but I stress that this is after I tried every 9.2 kernel out there. So hopefully this will help someone else out there finally solve what can be a very bizarre problem. Especially if the posted solutions that should work don't!!! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/87163-toh-rc2-1052-very-long-boot-time/#findComment-626988 Share on other sites More sharing options...
argonlazer Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 @ gd96 I also had the same problem as you. The kernel didn't fix my boot issues so I tried your archive.zip method and now I can't boot at all! I get the gray apple screen and then a circle with a line through it above the spinning icon. Haha. I use MacDrive on my XP Hardrive so I can easily replace the Kexts there with the old ones although I cleverly didn't back them up : Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/87163-toh-rc2-1052-very-long-boot-time/#findComment-627381 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gd96 Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 Ive seen that usually when it cant find the drive, you should boot with the -v switch when osx first comes up (hit f8 like mad) , find the offending kext and replace it back, again im not sure what kext fixed it, but it sure was one of them , and yeah I had backed mine up before I did anything. but im sure one of those kexts are the fix to the 3 minute black screen problem. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/87163-toh-rc2-1052-very-long-boot-time/#findComment-627654 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kruijf Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 Whit help from Eidola i have the new kernel too thnx again. So my leopard is up to date now. I replaced my nvinject too but with booting the black screen is still there, its not a problem for me so long everything is booting up. I look for a solution and hope to find, when i find it ill let you know too. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/87163-toh-rc2-1052-very-long-boot-time/#findComment-627721 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eidola Posted February 16, 2008 Author Share Posted February 16, 2008 Whit help from Eidola i have the new kernel too thnx again.So my leopard is up to date now. I replaced my nvinject too but with booting the black screen is still there, its not a problem for me so long everything is booting up. I look for a solution and hope to find, when i find it ill let you know too. More then happy to have been of assistance kruijf. If you want, send me a PM with the details of your problem, and I will see if I can help. -Eidola Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/87163-toh-rc2-1052-very-long-boot-time/#findComment-627751 Share on other sites More sharing options...
argonlazer Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 So all three of us updated the Kernel but the it didn't fix the long boot time issues. gd96 did you mess with the Efi in that archive.zip as well? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/87163-toh-rc2-1052-very-long-boot-time/#findComment-627918 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gd96 Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 I had actually forgot to mention that I removed my AppleEFIRuntime.kext Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/87163-toh-rc2-1052-very-long-boot-time/#findComment-628263 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kruijf Posted February 18, 2008 Share Posted February 18, 2008 I have sent you a pm Eidola. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/87163-toh-rc2-1052-very-long-boot-time/#findComment-629641 Share on other sites More sharing options...
argonlazer Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 Ok so I was reparing my Dad's External HDD in Windows and whilst logged on I used MacDrive to revert back to the Old Kexts I got from someone and deleted the AppleEFIRuntime.Kext. Upon reboot, my hack booted slow as usual. Everything now is SO much faster. I previously installed Photoshop in 45 minutes due to slow HDD speeds. I just installed it in 3? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/87163-toh-rc2-1052-very-long-boot-time/#findComment-632743 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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