Oss-Seven-Point-Six Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 As you know, PowerPC emulation of Mac OS/OS X is a pain in the butt. Sheepshaver only emulates up to Mac OS 9.0.4, while PearPC only emulates Mac OS X 10.1 and up. While looking on the Internet to find a way to emulate those version in between, I came across "QEMU on Windows". Normally, this an Intel X86 virtualize program. However, on that same site is a version which virtualizes a PowerPC computer. This of course piqued my interest. While looking around, though, my hope fell. QEMU PPC apparently wasn't designed to run Mac OS X. Rather, it's purpose is to run Linux PPC versions. I haven't confirmed if Mac OS/OS X will actually run in QEMU alone, but it doesn't look likely. If you want to try, go ahead. Despite this setback, I went on searching and found something very interesting. Mac-on-Linux is virtualization software that allows you to run Mac OS/OS X in Windows. According to the site, it can run the Mac OS 9 versions that can't be run by SheepShaver, and can theorectically run versions of Mac OS X under 10.0. The kicker is that this program requires a Linux computer running on a PowerPC processor. I again was set back, when I realized a plan so simple it might just work. Using QEMU on Windows PPC edition running a ligh Linux distro for PowerPC processors, it might just be possible to run Mac-on-Linux in that. One problem is that it may be quite slow. On the other hand, Linux distros tend to light on resources, and QEMU comes with several built-in features that speed up virtualization. So could this be possible? Could we finally run Mac OS X experimental versions? Possibly. I will try it out for myself, but I recommend that everyone tries this out. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/74902-emulating-the-mac-osos-x-versions-that-sheepshaver-and-pearpc-cant/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyBrian Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 Not roundabout enough. You've gotta throw in some ways to make it more complicated. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/74902-emulating-the-mac-osos-x-versions-that-sheepshaver-and-pearpc-cant/#findComment-530334 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oss-Seven-Point-Six Posted December 6, 2007 Author Share Posted December 6, 2007 well, you do have to know how to use Linux. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/74902-emulating-the-mac-osos-x-versions-that-sheepshaver-and-pearpc-cant/#findComment-530416 Share on other sites More sharing options...
~pcwiz Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 And its going to be SUPA DUPA slow. Double virtualization...*snort* Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/74902-emulating-the-mac-osos-x-versions-that-sheepshaver-and-pearpc-cant/#findComment-530566 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oss-Seven-Point-Six Posted December 8, 2007 Author Share Posted December 8, 2007 not as slow as you would think Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/74902-emulating-the-mac-osos-x-versions-that-sheepshaver-and-pearpc-cant/#findComment-531635 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embio Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 double emulation would be slow... but what we are discussing here is virtualisation on top of emulation, which wouldnt be that bad. How about Mac-on-linux on top of PearPC? .......or how about anyone interested gets a B&W for less than £20? surely thats easier? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/74902-emulating-the-mac-osos-x-versions-that-sheepshaver-and-pearpc-cant/#findComment-532059 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oss-Seven-Point-Six Posted December 10, 2007 Author Share Posted December 10, 2007 Well since PearPC and QEMU PowerPC are both virtualization, it should be possible. I would rather use QEMU PPC though; PearPC is buggy and doesn't have totally working sound, while QEMU has been in development for awhile and has sound among other things. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/74902-emulating-the-mac-osos-x-versions-that-sheepshaver-and-pearpc-cant/#findComment-534504 Share on other sites More sharing options...
~pcwiz Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 PearPC is really slow..super slow. I really do not expect double virtualization to be faster, in fact its going to be slower which defeats the objective anyway. It would be amusing to do but don't expect any real work from it. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/74902-emulating-the-mac-osos-x-versions-that-sheepshaver-and-pearpc-cant/#findComment-540620 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korrupted Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 Actually, PearPC is quite usable if you have a Core 2 based system. I ran panther on it, and it ran about the same speed as 10.4.1 Intel in VMWare. <.> Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/74902-emulating-the-mac-osos-x-versions-that-sheepshaver-and-pearpc-cant/#findComment-542831 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embio Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 ok this is very convoluted, but I'm installing Panther on PearPC on Windows on VMware on Leopard on Macbook. I'll try Mac-on-Mac once I'm done, if I don't run out of RAM/CPU cycles hahaha Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/74902-emulating-the-mac-osos-x-versions-that-sheepshaver-and-pearpc-cant/#findComment-543065 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaces Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 wow embio, panther is going to run like a snail. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/74902-emulating-the-mac-osos-x-versions-that-sheepshaver-and-pearpc-cant/#findComment-543090 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embio Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 actually it runs pretty well, but I cant get any of the virtual networking devices to configure, so that way of doing things might be closed..... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/74902-emulating-the-mac-osos-x-versions-that-sheepshaver-and-pearpc-cant/#findComment-543115 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korrupted Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 You should run it from Native Windows for the best performance/compatibility. XD Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/74902-emulating-the-mac-osos-x-versions-that-sheepshaver-and-pearpc-cant/#findComment-543493 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embio Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 hmmm, probably. All my native Windows machines are a lot slower than this Macbook though (old P3s). I could use boot camp I suppose, I'll try it later. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/74902-emulating-the-mac-osos-x-versions-that-sheepshaver-and-pearpc-cant/#findComment-543614 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oss-Seven-Point-Six Posted February 12, 2008 Author Share Posted February 12, 2008 But even if PearPC ran quicker, it would still be limited to Mac OSx 10.1+. My suggestion may allow us to at least run versions of Mac OSx, OS 9, and Rhapsody not supported by either Sheepshaver or PearPC. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/74902-emulating-the-mac-osos-x-versions-that-sheepshaver-and-pearpc-cant/#findComment-620730 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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