SilverZero Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 I'm building an omni-OS system, and the only component I keep waffling on is the motherboard. I go back and forth between the Abit IP35 family (IP35-e, mainly because it's nice and cheap) and the Gigabyte P35 boards (DS3L, DS3R, DS3P). Are there any real-world users out there that can help me decide which way to go? Likes and dislikes about your particular board? OSx86 is a priority for me, especially because that's where the compatibility factor comes up the most. I'm not afraid of terminals and such to get everything working, but I would like some opinions about which route I should think about for the mobo. Thanks! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/72184-abit-ip35-family-vs-gigabyte-p35-ds3-family/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuthenticMac Posted December 1, 2007 Share Posted December 1, 2007 Go with Gigabyte family. Specially the low-end P35-DS3L V.S. IP35-E . P35-DS3L has ACHI setting for ICH9, Abit does not. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/72184-abit-ip35-family-vs-gigabyte-p35-ds3-family/#findComment-524634 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sha_doh Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 Authentic i would check your specs again ive had 3 boards the ds3 ds3r and ip35pro theres a definate performance edge on the ip35 pro and yes theres ahci for the ich9r as well as for the jmicron.. as well read about the instability of the ds3 bios and its many other dissapointments, the ip35 pro works out of the box on OSX 10.5 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/72184-abit-ip35-family-vs-gigabyte-p35-ds3-family/#findComment-540537 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonyb7 Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 Authentic i would check your specs again ive had 3 boards the ds3 ds3r and ip35pro theres a definate performance edge on the ip35 pro and yes theres ahci for the ich9r as well as for the jmicron.. as well read about the instability of the ds3 bios and its many other dissapointments, the ip35 pro works out of the box on OSX 10.5 thats all nice but you forget price difference Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/72184-abit-ip35-family-vs-gigabyte-p35-ds3-family/#findComment-540553 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sha_doh Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 for 40$ more you can get the pro and free shipping well worth it!! fewer hassles and many more features. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...;Tpk=ip35%2bpro Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/72184-abit-ip35-family-vs-gigabyte-p35-ds3-family/#findComment-540591 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverZero Posted December 17, 2007 Author Share Posted December 17, 2007 Wow, finally some replies! I already got the IP35 (standard, not the -E or the Pro). $100 after rebates, making it the same price as the -E version. I do like Gigabyte boards, but part of this project is to come in under a certain budget (just for fun), and the DS3's all tipped the balance too far. Thanks for the input! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/72184-abit-ip35-family-vs-gigabyte-p35-ds3-family/#findComment-540703 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skitals Posted December 22, 2007 Share Posted December 22, 2007 I currently have the GA-P35-DS3L which I'm happy about EXCEPT for the fact that you can only use 2 out of 4 sata ports in leopard. Despite both 2-channel sata controllers being "supported", there is something about the AHCI bios that only allows the first two channels to work in Leopard. What is the case with the IP35 Pro? Do all 6 ICH9R sata ports work? What about the two JMB363 ports? And does the HDA audio work? Thanks Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/72184-abit-ip35-family-vs-gigabyte-p35-ds3-family/#findComment-546834 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aqua-mac Posted December 22, 2007 Share Posted December 22, 2007 Gigabyte GA P35-DQ6 (DDR 2 version) everything works in Leo, sound, lan (drivers available from this site) all Sata ports + jmicron, Core 2 Duo, overclocked to 3.2. Micro ATX, I have also built a hack with Gigabyte GA G33M -DS2R. This also is fully working in Leo all 6 ICH9-R ports work and j micron. Has all the support and overclocking features of it's bigger brothers. Great board for OSX X86. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/72184-abit-ip35-family-vs-gigabyte-p35-ds3-family/#findComment-546844 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skitals Posted December 22, 2007 Share Posted December 22, 2007 Gigabyte GA P35-DQ6 (DDR 2 version) everything works in Leo, sound, lan (drivers available from this site) all Sata ports + jmicron, Core 2 Duo, overclocked to 3.2. Micro ATX, I have also built a hack with Gigabyte GA G33M -DS2R. This also is fully working in Leo all 6 ICH9-R ports work and j micron. Has all the support and overclocking features of it's bigger brothers. Great board for OSX X86. In leopard, do you need to use AHCI for all the ICH9R sata ports? How is the sata performance? I'm under the impression ICH9R is still just using generic drivers, so performance isn't that great. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/72184-abit-ip35-family-vs-gigabyte-p35-ds3-family/#findComment-546902 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aqua-mac Posted December 22, 2007 Share Posted December 22, 2007 Hi Skitals, Runs at the same speed as ICH8-R (as it's backward compatible) so no faster, but don't believe what xbench tells you, both these combinations feel faster than the dual 3 gig Mac Pro I use at work. Mind you that probably has something to do with the fact Hackintoshes at least have some upgrade path for graphics cards, I am using a 8800 GTX flashed to Quadro FX 5600 against the 7300GT in my mac at work. Yes, with Leopard, you still need to use AHCI in the bios. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/72184-abit-ip35-family-vs-gigabyte-p35-ds3-family/#findComment-547318 Share on other sites More sharing options...
socal swimmer Posted December 22, 2007 Share Posted December 22, 2007 Hey I got the GA P35-DS3P. I also wrote a full install guide for the entire process (see sig for link) including dual boot, and patching the sound. Patch allows 2 channel sound to work, everything else works out of box (brazilmac + efi + guid). I kept failing overclocks, but I think it was my memory (Corsair XMS2 DDR2-800, default voltage, failed at 968 MHz and 1025 MHz). I put the e6750 cpu up to 3.2GHz, with RAM at 800 MHz, and It passed a Prime95 stress test. It is a good board, very easy to set up and get working. My computer was built for maximum compatibility as well, as using Mac OS X is paramount to me. see sig for details on my build Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/72184-abit-ip35-family-vs-gigabyte-p35-ds3-family/#findComment-547711 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skitals Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 Update since I last posted... the new Kalyway 10.5.1 install dvd now fully supports the GA-P35-DS3L. As in all four sata ports W/O AHCI! I just ordered a second DS3L for a new build. Can't beat this thing for $90. 100% leopard compatible, VERY overclockable, all solid-state compacitors, and future 45nm compatibility! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/72184-abit-ip35-family-vs-gigabyte-p35-ds3-family/#findComment-548049 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aqua-mac Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 Hey Skitals, When you say Sata works without AHCI, what setting are you using in the Bios? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/72184-abit-ip35-family-vs-gigabyte-p35-ds3-family/#findComment-548192 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skitals Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 Hey Skitals, When you say Sata works without AHCI, what setting are you using in the Bios? AHCI: Disabled Native mode on sata port 0+1: enabled My startup volume scores a 90 in xbench, and my two 320gb drive in raid 0 hit 170MB/sec in the 256kb block uncached sequential write test. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/72184-abit-ip35-family-vs-gigabyte-p35-ds3-family/#findComment-548970 Share on other sites More sharing options...
socal swimmer Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 duuuudddeeeee!!!! I wonder if its the same drivers as the DS3P. Do you think you could post the relevant kexts (if you know what they are)? I will download kalyway soon.... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/72184-abit-ip35-family-vs-gigabyte-p35-ds3-family/#findComment-549224 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aqua-mac Posted December 24, 2007 Share Posted December 24, 2007 Yup, I would also appreciate those as well if you know which ones they are! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/72184-abit-ip35-family-vs-gigabyte-p35-ds3-family/#findComment-549793 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skitals Posted December 24, 2007 Share Posted December 24, 2007 Yup, I would also appreciate those as well if you know which ones they are! From what I can tell, these are the only two sata related drivers loaded according to system profiler. kalyway_ich9_sata.zip Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/72184-abit-ip35-family-vs-gigabyte-p35-ds3-family/#findComment-549839 Share on other sites More sharing options...
socal swimmer Posted December 24, 2007 Share Posted December 24, 2007 i will start downloading kalyway now. I can use Pacifist to extract all kexts, then do a 'diff' to find any differences. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/72184-abit-ip35-family-vs-gigabyte-p35-ds3-family/#findComment-549845 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aqua-mac Posted December 24, 2007 Share Posted December 24, 2007 Skitals, Is your boot drive still plugged in to your Orange Sata ports? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/72184-abit-ip35-family-vs-gigabyte-p35-ds3-family/#findComment-550071 Share on other sites More sharing options...
socal swimmer Posted December 24, 2007 Share Posted December 24, 2007 those are both different from what I have installed (from brazilmac), though the VIAATA one only has one minor difference.... I will install these later. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/72184-abit-ip35-family-vs-gigabyte-p35-ds3-family/#findComment-550774 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabonga Posted December 27, 2007 Share Posted December 27, 2007 Skitals: Hi, thanks for the info about the GA-P35-DS3L because I'm about to order this mobo =) I just have a few question before I buy it, 1) Does Shutdown work properly? Are you having issues whatsoever? 2) Also, earlier on your post, you said that only 2 sata ports were working. With this setup, was AHCI enabled or also disabled? Then you found out the solution from Kalyway 10.5.1 DVD that made all sata ports working BUT AHCI was disabled. 3) I'm kinda bothered about the AHCI being disabled, does it degrade the performance? AHCI enabled or not, big difference? In my case I only have 1 SATA device so It doesnt matter if only 2 SATA ports are working as long as AHCI is enabled (if it actually matters). 4) How about IDE, does it work? THank you very much. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/72184-abit-ip35-family-vs-gigabyte-p35-ds3-family/#findComment-554494 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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