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Abit IP35 family vs. Gigabyte P35-DS3 family


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I'm building an omni-OS system, and the only component I keep waffling on is the motherboard. I go back and forth between the Abit IP35 family (IP35-e, mainly because it's nice and cheap) and the Gigabyte P35 boards (DS3L, DS3R, DS3P). Are there any real-world users out there that can help me decide which way to go? Likes and dislikes about your particular board? OSx86 is a priority for me, especially because that's where the compatibility factor comes up the most. I'm not afraid of terminals and such to get everything working, but I would like some opinions about which route I should think about for the mobo. Thanks!

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Authentic i would check your specs again ive had 3 boards the ds3 ds3r and ip35pro theres a definate performance edge on the ip35 pro and yes theres ahci for the ich9r as well as for the jmicron.. as well read about the instability of the ds3 bios and its many other dissapointments, the ip35 pro works out of the box on OSX 10.5

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Authentic i would check your specs again ive had 3 boards the ds3 ds3r and ip35pro theres a definate performance edge on the ip35 pro and yes theres ahci for the ich9r as well as for the jmicron.. as well read about the instability of the ds3 bios and its many other dissapointments, the ip35 pro works out of the box on OSX 10.5

 

thats all nice but you forget price difference

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Wow, finally some replies! I already got the IP35 (standard, not the -E or the Pro). $100 after rebates, making it the same price as the -E version. I do like Gigabyte boards, but part of this project is to come in under a certain budget (just for fun), and the DS3's all tipped the balance too far. Thanks for the input!

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I currently have the GA-P35-DS3L which I'm happy about EXCEPT for the fact that you can only use 2 out of 4 sata ports in leopard. Despite both 2-channel sata controllers being "supported", there is something about the AHCI bios that only allows the first two channels to work in Leopard.

 

What is the case with the IP35 Pro? Do all 6 ICH9R sata ports work? What about the two JMB363 ports?

 

And does the HDA audio work?

 

Thanks

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Gigabyte GA P35-DQ6 (DDR 2 version) everything works in Leo, sound, lan (drivers available from this site) all Sata ports + jmicron, Core 2 Duo, overclocked to 3.2.

 

Micro ATX, I have also built a hack with Gigabyte GA G33M -DS2R. This also is fully working in Leo all 6 ICH9-R ports work and j micron. Has all the support and overclocking features of it's bigger brothers. Great board for OSX X86.

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Gigabyte GA P35-DQ6 (DDR 2 version) everything works in Leo, sound, lan (drivers available from this site) all Sata ports + jmicron, Core 2 Duo, overclocked to 3.2.

 

Micro ATX, I have also built a hack with Gigabyte GA G33M -DS2R. This also is fully working in Leo all 6 ICH9-R ports work and j micron. Has all the support and overclocking features of it's bigger brothers. Great board for OSX X86.

 

In leopard, do you need to use AHCI for all the ICH9R sata ports? How is the sata performance? I'm under the impression ICH9R is still just using generic drivers, so performance isn't that great.

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Hi Skitals,

 

Runs at the same speed as ICH8-R (as it's backward compatible) so no faster, but don't believe what xbench tells you, both these combinations feel faster than the dual 3 gig Mac Pro I use at work. Mind you that probably has something to do with the fact Hackintoshes at least have some upgrade path for graphics cards, I am using a 8800 GTX flashed to Quadro FX 5600 against the 7300GT in my mac at work.

 

Yes, with Leopard, you still need to use AHCI in the bios.

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Hey

 

I got the GA P35-DS3P. I also wrote a full install guide for the entire process (see sig for link) including dual boot, and patching the sound.

 

Patch allows 2 channel sound to work, everything else works out of box (brazilmac + efi + guid).

 

I kept failing overclocks, but I think it was my memory (Corsair XMS2 DDR2-800, default voltage, failed at 968 MHz and 1025 MHz). I put the e6750 cpu up to 3.2GHz, with RAM at 800 MHz, and It passed a Prime95 stress test.

 

It is a good board, very easy to set up and get working. My computer was built for maximum compatibility as well, as using Mac OS X is paramount to me.

 

see sig for details on my build

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Update since I last posted... the new Kalyway 10.5.1 install dvd now fully supports the GA-P35-DS3L. As in all four sata ports W/O AHCI! I just ordered a second DS3L for a new build. Can't beat this thing for $90. 100% leopard compatible, VERY overclockable, all solid-state compacitors, and future 45nm compatibility!

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Hey Skitals,

 

When you say Sata works without AHCI, what setting are you using in the Bios?

 

AHCI: Disabled

Native mode on sata port 0+1: enabled

 

My startup volume scores a 90 in xbench, and my two 320gb drive in raid 0 hit 170MB/sec in the 256kb block uncached sequential write test.

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Skitals:

 

Hi, thanks for the info about the GA-P35-DS3L because I'm about to order this mobo =)

 

I just have a few question before I buy it,

 

1) Does Shutdown work properly? Are you having issues whatsoever?

 

2) Also, earlier on your post, you said that only 2 sata ports were working. With this setup, was AHCI enabled or also disabled?

 

Then you found out the solution from Kalyway 10.5.1 DVD that made all sata ports working BUT AHCI was disabled.

 

3) I'm kinda bothered about the AHCI being disabled, does it degrade the performance? AHCI enabled or not, big difference?

 

In my case I only have 1 SATA device so It doesnt matter if only 2 SATA ports are working as long as AHCI is enabled (if it actually matters).

 

4) How about IDE, does it work?

 

THank you very much.

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