princeofdarkness135 Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 I come here today to bring you an idea, a thought, of what may be to come to the OS X x86 dev kit DVD's installed on non dev kit systems. Apple said that all of the dev kit-ee's had to bring their kits back to apple in '06 right? Apple doesnt want any left after they release it to the public. Do you think that there may be extra dangers for those of us that have and will use OS X x86 after this time? What if there is underlying code in the dev kit that will make it delete itself, a Y2K6 of sorts, or can Apple send out a beacon through the internets that will kill your OS X or track you down? This all here is probably and hopefully False, but all I'm sayin is that, I'm not gonna be using it connected to the internet for the first couple months of '06. ponder that, and please prove me wrong! -prince Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/5904-dangers-of-2006/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Gil Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 I come here today to bring you an idea, a thought, of what may be to come to the OS X x86 dev kit DVD's installed on non dev kit systems. Apple said that all of the dev kit-ee's had to bring their kits back to apple in '06 right? Apple doesnt want any left after they release it to the public. Do you think that there may be extra dangers for those of us that have and will use OS X x86 after this time? What if there is underlying code in the dev kit that will make it delete itself, a Y2K6 of sorts, or can Apple send out a beacon through the internets that will kill your OS X or track you down? This all here is probably and hopefully False, but all I'm sayin is that, I'm not gonna be using it connected to the internet for the first couple months of '06. ponder that, and please prove me wrong! -prince I don't think Apple do something like deleting the OS or kill it but they can use some sort of patch to not let you upgrade to the latest version. I think that, in some way, they like what we are doing 'cause we are expanding their bussiness possibilities and expanding the niche other software people sell Apple compatible software. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/5904-dangers-of-2006/#findComment-37198 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest terry Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 Apple said that all of the dev kit-ee's had to bring their kits back to apple in '06 right? Apple doesnt want any left after they release it to the public. Do you think that there may be extra dangers for those of us that have and will use OS X x86 after this time? What if there is underlying code in the dev kit that will make it delete itself, a Y2K6 of sorts, or can Apple send out a beacon through the internets that will kill your OS X or track you down? Hehe, how nasty... But no, the reason for this is simply that the Developer Transition Kit will not be supported by the upcoming official Mac OS X for x86 releases for the crowd (remember, the Developer Transition Kit is not a Macintosh product). It is simply becoming an obsolete piece of hardware, as it does not feature the hardware infrastructure that is used in the final product to lock the operating system down exclusively to Apple-branded hardware. Of course Apple isn't interested in keeping up a hardware platform that was so easy to be compromised like the DTK for an infinite time if there is clearly no need to. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/5904-dangers-of-2006/#findComment-37199 Share on other sites More sharing options...
princeofdarkness135 Posted December 17, 2005 Author Share Posted December 17, 2005 I think that, in some way, they like what we are doing 'cause we are expanding their bussiness possibilities and expanding the niche other software people sell Apple compatible software. I always thought this also, like it would also help apple to find out ways to make their OS more hacker-resistant etc. But no, the reason for this is simply that the Developer Transition Kit will not be supported by the upcoming official Mac OS X for x86 releases for the crowd (remember, the Developer Transition Kit is not a Macintosh product). It is simply becoming an obsolete piece of hardware, as it does not feature the hardware infrastructure that is used in the final product to lock the operating system down exclusively to Apple-branded hardware. Of course Apple isn't interested in keeping up a hardware platform that was so easy to be compromised like the DTK for an infinite time if there is clearly no need to. If what you say is true, it makes me feel a better about the upcoming year change and just wont use OS X x86 until they release it for their low end macs. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/5904-dangers-of-2006/#findComment-37216 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swad Posted December 18, 2005 Share Posted December 18, 2005 My theory? Apple gets thousands of developers to pay Apple's purchasing of all Intel Macs! Seriously - what will Apple do with all the returns? They'll do a quick fix internally that will allow all future version of OS X to run on them, then hand them out to staff. That's my guess. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/5904-dangers-of-2006/#findComment-37221 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest terry Posted December 18, 2005 Share Posted December 18, 2005 Seriously - what will Apple do with all the returns? Logan City landfill, Utah, since September 27, 1989 the home of 2.700 Lisas, later joined by 30.000 Newtons, all factory-new, of course: Rest in peace. An interesting sidenote: Apple received $34 on every $100 depreciated value as a tax break. Apple received more money by destroying the Lisa's than if they had given them to schools and taken a charitable deduction. http://www.jmusheneaux.com/9004.htm Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/5904-dangers-of-2006/#findComment-37237 Share on other sites More sharing options...
niteice Posted December 18, 2005 Share Posted December 18, 2005 The kits don't have to be returned until Dec. 31 2006, but I see no reason for Apple to continue supporting them after July or so...Mashugly's conjecture sounds highly plausible. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/5904-dangers-of-2006/#findComment-37239 Share on other sites More sharing options...
princeofdarkness135 Posted December 18, 2005 Author Share Posted December 18, 2005 (edited) yeh, Mashugly, if i was apple that would probably be what i'd do, thats alot of dev kits that will be just lying around, might even sell 'em to schools, my High school has a PowemacG5 for its morning tv broadcast thing, i swear the people who run that dont know how to run a computer, always having "technical difficulties". Anyway i dont think even Apple would throw away perfectly good $1000 computers Edit: wow, nvm the whole not throwing away computers, apple does whatever's more financially pleasable i guess Edited December 18, 2005 by princeofdarkness135 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/5904-dangers-of-2006/#findComment-37240 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metrogirl Posted December 18, 2005 Share Posted December 18, 2005 I think they'll recall the dev machines, toss that motherboard, stick in whatever they're rolling out to the public, and sell/give/lend them back to their developers. The mobo is worth about $20, but the case, psu and so on are the bits that cost money. Also I'll be very surprised if there's a timebomb in current dev versions of OSX. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/5904-dangers-of-2006/#findComment-37254 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swad Posted December 18, 2005 Share Posted December 18, 2005 Yeah, and all it would take is resetting the internal clock to find out about the time bomb. And Terry, I doubt that Steve would do the landfill thing anymore since it's not very environmentally concious. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/5904-dangers-of-2006/#findComment-37257 Share on other sites More sharing options...
princeofdarkness135 Posted December 19, 2005 Author Share Posted December 19, 2005 Yeah, and all it would take is resetting the internal clock to find out about the time bomb. Not really, it could be an internet time, time bomb, or, lol certain websites could be probed Either way, if apple REALLY wanted your osx install dead they could do it, but if you are REALLY good you could avoid any attempts apple may or may not make Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/5904-dangers-of-2006/#findComment-37463 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest terry Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 Not really, it could be an internet time, time bomb, or, lol certain websites could be probed Either way, if apple REALLY wanted your osx install dead Dead? Good point. Joking aside, here's what's really gonna happen: According to Crazy Apple Rumors Site's legal counsel, the altered clause of the end-user license agreement reads as follows, with the italicized portion having been added: "License may be terminated at any time. User may also be terminated at any time." Mac users are advised to consider carefully their next purchase of a boxed copy of OS X. http://www.crazyapplerumors.com/archives/000591.html#000591 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/5904-dangers-of-2006/#findComment-37850 Share on other sites More sharing options...
princeofdarkness135 Posted December 21, 2005 Author Share Posted December 21, 2005 Dead? Good point. Joking aside, here's what's really gonna happen: http://www.crazyapplerumors.com/archives/000591.html#000591 THAT's just what i'm talking about, apple sees us when we're sleeping and sees us when we're awake, know's if we've been bad or good. so lets test them for as long as possible Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/5904-dangers-of-2006/#findComment-37870 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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