Aeden Posted June 14, 2007 Share Posted June 14, 2007 Lol, I'm willing to bet that another ten pages from here, we'll probably STILL be nowhere close to where we want to be Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/53625-when-is-leopard-going-to-leak/page/26/#findComment-384317 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1233666666 Posted June 14, 2007 Share Posted June 14, 2007 Hahah, most likely Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/53625-when-is-leopard-going-to-leak/page/26/#findComment-384318 Share on other sites More sharing options...
four! Posted June 14, 2007 Share Posted June 14, 2007 why dont we just use time machine and jump to october? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/53625-when-is-leopard-going-to-leak/page/26/#findComment-384319 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeden Posted June 14, 2007 Share Posted June 14, 2007 Well, at least this thread has wit . Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/53625-when-is-leopard-going-to-leak/page/26/#findComment-384320 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest h2a Posted June 14, 2007 Share Posted June 14, 2007 why dont we just use time machine and jump to october? man...i hope time machine can go forward so i can have my term papers typed already when i get back to school. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/53625-when-is-leopard-going-to-leak/page/26/#findComment-384325 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeel Posted June 14, 2007 Share Posted June 14, 2007 i've seen time machine in action and it consults the new voice alex for writing papers... alex talks to the computer and makes up a new term paper....it's quite cute Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/53625-when-is-leopard-going-to-leak/page/26/#findComment-384326 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeroen1 Posted June 14, 2007 Share Posted June 14, 2007 Leopard now leaked or not? Please send me the details of an private FTP Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/53625-when-is-leopard-going-to-leak/page/26/#findComment-384329 Share on other sites More sharing options...
four! Posted June 14, 2007 Share Posted June 14, 2007 nacho nacho man, I want to be a nacho man NO LEOPARD HAS NOT BEEN LEAKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thats what a Forum is for...READING!!!!!!!!! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/53625-when-is-leopard-going-to-leak/page/26/#findComment-384332 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allah Posted June 14, 2007 Share Posted June 14, 2007 Quoted from the OiNK forums: Well, we have a problem. I have a buddy who is an indie games developer who attended WWDC and received a copy of the Leopard beta. The problem is, he says there is a rumor floating around about Apple 'watermarking' each copy of Leopard with a software watermark. I have checked with another friend who works at Apple in Cupertino and he refused to confirm or deny it. He is on the iTunes team though, so he may not know anything about it. The idea is that each disk has a unique string of characters hidden away in some plist or something that is reported to an ADC server when installed (similar to Mac hardware serials being registered with Apple). The theory behind that idea is that when it is leaked, Apple will be able to identify the offending disk, go back and check the names of users set up at installation against the name of developers (whoever leaks it would also plan on installing and using it) and finding their culprit. It also theorized that even without a proper name (or a faked name by pirated copies of the operating system) Apple will be able to ask developers to submit to running an application (similar to WGA) that would report back the unique watermark on their system, thus proving them innocent or incriminating them. That may not be enough to really prevent a leak, but it is food for thought. My buddy refuses to even allow me to use his disk to install a copy, for fear of lawsuit like last year's leaker faced. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/53625-when-is-leopard-going-to-leak/page/26/#findComment-384334 Share on other sites More sharing options...
four! Posted June 14, 2007 Share Posted June 14, 2007 Interesting Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/53625-when-is-leopard-going-to-leak/page/26/#findComment-384342 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetalFishX Posted June 14, 2007 Share Posted June 14, 2007 I don't think Apple is doing that sending thing to Servers... if they do, they're violating privacity; 99% of the company that did this in a hidden way has been kicked to the court. This can only happens if you register or something like; for example, when you at the end of the instal, when the first screen, you type your apple member and things then nex, then it say "Connecting to apple.." maybe at that point, ok, but you hit OK.. But not in a hidden way... Also, this part can be jumped out. it's stupid form their side to keep hidding the beta; its better for them, because people knows about the os, and when its out, every one will buy it; its gonna be cheaper.. in my case, ill buy for sure, but first I NEED TO TRY !!! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/53625-when-is-leopard-going-to-leak/page/26/#findComment-384343 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeel Posted June 14, 2007 Share Posted June 14, 2007 ya know...i have never been a microsoft fan, at any point. but if i do recall correctly, they did release a public beta of Vista before it came out. I beg the question why apple does not do the same... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/53625-when-is-leopard-going-to-leak/page/26/#findComment-384344 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Since EBCDIC Posted June 14, 2007 Share Posted June 14, 2007 Given that the WWDC DVDs were handed out randomly to anyone showing a badge I seriously doubt the watermarking rumor. If there was a strict sign-in process I might give it more than a shred of thought.... nope, doesn't pass the sniff test. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/53625-when-is-leopard-going-to-leak/page/26/#findComment-384347 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ffmpeg Posted June 14, 2007 Share Posted June 14, 2007 I think there's and easy way to confirm this. Install it but disconnect from the internet during the whole installation and account setup process (and do not register to apple), after it is installed, install little snitch then connect back to the internet to see if something bad happens. and if this was true i think it would be easy to disable by just editing you hosts file to point apple.com to 127.0.0.1 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/53625-when-is-leopard-going-to-leak/page/26/#findComment-384349 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeel Posted June 14, 2007 Share Posted June 14, 2007 Given that the WWDC DVDs were handed out randomly to anyone showing a badge I seriously doubt the watermarking rumor. If there was a strict sign-in process I might give it more than a shred of thought.... nope, doesn't pass the sniff test. But don't you have to sign your name when you purchase a ticket to WWDC? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/53625-when-is-leopard-going-to-leak/page/26/#findComment-384350 Share on other sites More sharing options...
four! Posted June 14, 2007 Share Posted June 14, 2007 besides you can just Apple+Q on the Information entry on install. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/53625-when-is-leopard-going-to-leak/page/26/#findComment-384354 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest h2a Posted June 14, 2007 Share Posted June 14, 2007 it doesnt really matter. if the discs weren't in something that has your name on it, then apple doesn't know what disc went to who. thats like drawing a number out of a hat and saying that they can trace you by what number you pulled...there's no way its possible. we just need someone to confirm that the discs weren't handed out in a REALLY orderly fashion. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/53625-when-is-leopard-going-to-leak/page/26/#findComment-384355 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ffmpeg Posted June 14, 2007 Share Posted June 14, 2007 Remember that when you register your mac, it asks you for your name, address and all that, maybe that's when the disk sends your info+the watermark to apple that way they know what developer has which dvd Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/53625-when-is-leopard-going-to-leak/page/26/#findComment-384356 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetalFishX Posted June 14, 2007 Share Posted June 14, 2007 You can put what you want; you dont need to be connected to internet. All osx version works this way.. BTW i've tested the previous leopard, wthout the new finder and things.. it worked, but lots of bugs; ichat problems, and well unusable (and still tiger)... I did this without being connected, no problems at all.. AND I NEVER HEARD OF ANY ONE HAD PROBLEMS TO SHARE PREVIOUS LEOPARD! ITs just scared child things. Its just a beta software, common.... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/53625-when-is-leopard-going-to-leak/page/26/#findComment-384360 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomsk Posted June 14, 2007 Share Posted June 14, 2007 Ok but if the original owner of the disc didn't fill out that info then it would be ok. But seriously do they expect a large developer company such as wolfram or something do they really expect these people to only install leopard on one machine to do development and test? As a software developer that is just rediculous. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/53625-when-is-leopard-going-to-leak/page/26/#findComment-384362 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ffmpeg Posted June 14, 2007 Share Posted June 14, 2007 I'm just saying that if they wanted they could, but so far they haven't done it. I'm running leopard too and it is buggy, hopefully this new version won't crash that often. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/53625-when-is-leopard-going-to-leak/page/26/#findComment-384364 Share on other sites More sharing options...
39thRonin Posted June 14, 2007 Share Posted June 14, 2007 This same "watermarking" rumour makes the rounds every time a new and desireable piece of Apple software comes out. I've heard this {censored} after EVERY WWDC, and every other Apple meeting where software was discussed or distributed. It is pretty mucfh impossible to tie a given user to a given disk... Plus have them ready to hand out to folks - come on folks - use your heads... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/53625-when-is-leopard-going-to-leak/page/26/#findComment-384368 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetalFishX Posted June 14, 2007 Share Posted June 14, 2007 Im sure the same developer that sharde leopard before, went the WWDC again; and, did any one heard about anybody that was sent to jail because steve said: "WE GOT YOU, WE WAS MONITORING ALL LEOPARDS AND WE SAW YOU GAVE IT! MUAHAHAHAHAHA"... hahahahahah ITS BEEETAAAA SOFTWAREEEEEE Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/53625-when-is-leopard-going-to-leak/page/26/#findComment-384369 Share on other sites More sharing options...
camouflageX Posted June 14, 2007 Share Posted June 14, 2007 The same theory about watermarked DVDs came up with the Tiger x86 beta discs too, two years ago. That was a much, much hotter release. But was it true? No. There is a simple way to see if every Leopard DVD is equal: Just get the hash code of two images and you will see if they are exactly the same. And if they are the same, then no tracing can be made. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/53625-when-is-leopard-going-to-leak/page/26/#findComment-384370 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomsk Posted June 14, 2007 Share Posted June 14, 2007 if they really wanted to stop people they should have just done what they did with Logic Pro with the USB key. Other than that there has been very little anti piracy implementations on previous Apple software so why would they start now and the software that has always had the least anti piracy moves. Just doesn't make sense imho. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/53625-when-is-leopard-going-to-leak/page/26/#findComment-384371 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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