moridinbg Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 So that's it. They dumped the legendary filesystem! This is the news This is the podcast from Sun /RealMedia/. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFI Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 if this is infact true.....its AWESOME!. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Hurt Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 Will it really make that much of a difference for end users? After all, HFS+ is a professional filesystem as far as I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFI Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 Will it really make that much of a difference for end users? After all, HFS+ is a professional filesystem as far as I know. Check out this link: http://uadmin.blogspot.com/2006/09/hfs-jou...zed-vs-zfs.html Tells you how ZFS is much more advanced and efficient than HFS+ (which is already better in many areas than NTFS). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asap18 Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 @Ahmad, Despite the fact that HFS is over a decade old, ZFS is going too be critical for the Time Machine ability for snapshots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro17 Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 Great news. I was going to post it, but moridinbg was faster than me I wish Linux adopted it as well, but they won't (licensing issues). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Envying Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 @Ahmad, Despite the fact that HFS is over a decade old, ZFS is going too be critical for the Time Machine ability for snapshots. Based on the link provided by EFI, ZFS is really a critical FS for 10.5 time machine. We are assuming M$ must be also working on similar FS, I don't know if so call WinFS is the one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFI Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 Based on the link provided by EFI, ZFS is really a critical FS for 10.5 time machine. We are assuming M$ must be also working on similar FS, I don't know if so call WinFS is the one? ZFS is infact really critical for Time Machine (its becoming more and more obvious now) indeed. Microsoft was suppsoe to release WinFS....which was suppose to be better than NTFS with better clustering support among a few things....and this new FS was suppose to be incorporated in Vista itself, but failed to materalize. Now Windows's filesysystem (as of this october) will be several generations behind (WinFS -> HFS+ -> ZFS). Moreover, ZFS is the most recent file system...being released in 2004, and is currently the most advanced file system out there. ZFSs' max cluster size is incredibly amazing. There is a quote that states "if you were to create 1000 files every second, it would take 9000 years before you would reach the max cluster size of the file system". Moreover, ZFS has some very cool "self-healing" capibilities from data corruption....so its very difficult if not close to impossible for data loss on ZFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeSuKuN Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 Also, ZFS allows us to use RAID-Z :censored2:~~~~~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erbic Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 Adrian Fogge (remember him?) was really pushing ZFS before he left, and now I finally understand why. It's got some really obvious advantages over HFS+. Hopefully Apple'll take full advantage of ZFS with the Time Machine software. I wonder if this was one of the "secret features"? Not so secret now, is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apowerr Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 Apple is just plain smart, they never stop with what they have, they always push forward. I always though the whole Tiger is the most OS was kinda BS but with Leopard that may really be the case. No matter how much I love Windows, MS just lets is sit and stagnate and pratically hands the market over to Apple. If Apple keeps inovating at this rate, within the next 5 years (unless Vienna and its succesor own really hard) there will be no practical reason to have a PC running Windows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_muad_dib Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 not really a news(the move was well known since the first leo beta, indeed), but still, it's great. i'll move to ZFS on both macos and linux! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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