OryHara Posted April 8, 2007 Share Posted April 8, 2007 Has someone outsourced your Job to India, or China? Are you left broke, and on welfare? Or have you found another job? I think outsourcing should be made a crime since it is killing our worker's jobs. Are you tired of calling a F500 company and getting a foreigner you can't understand? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/47885-outsourcing-to-india-or-china/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
cringemaster Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 I think outsourcing should be made a crime since it is killing our worker's jobs. Its all about profits. While it does take away from the amount of jobs vailable, look at what some foriegn car companies are doing by building production plants here in the US. (props to Hyndai/Kia and Toyota (and probably many more)) Are you tired of calling a F500 company and getting a foreigner you can't understand? While most of the time, I do get a foreigner, I can understand them pretty well. that whole stereotype of foreign phone supprt being impossible is overrated. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/47885-outsourcing-to-india-or-china/#findComment-342934 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OryHara Posted April 9, 2007 Author Share Posted April 9, 2007 While most of the time, I do get a foreigner, I can understand them pretty well. that whole stereotype of foreign phone supprt being impossible is overrated. Toyota is bringing a plant here, and I have already got contract with them, one of the subclauses, which was quite funny, and they didn't read it anyway, was that I, or my staff, would never have to speak to someone we could not understand on the phone overseas, or all computer warranties, and support would become void. :mellow: The contract is valid for 10 years. I can't understand anyone from India. If they can't speak English with an American (of some type) accent, I won't talk to them, and will promptly hang up. I don't have much trouble understanding Asian accents. But people from India just can't speak English correctly unless they have lived here for a while. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/47885-outsourcing-to-india-or-china/#findComment-342957 Share on other sites More sharing options...
erbic Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 [...]one of the subclauses, which was quite funny, and they didn't read it anyway, was that I, or my staff, would never have to speak to someone we could not understand on the phone overseas, or all computer warranties, and support would become void. :mellow: The contract is valid for 10 years. Heh, nice. Wonder how long it'll take for them to lose the warranty? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/47885-outsourcing-to-india-or-china/#findComment-342961 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OryHara Posted April 9, 2007 Author Share Posted April 9, 2007 Heh, nice. Wonder how long it'll take for them to lose the warranty? :mellow: With over $600,000 in computers, I would imagine it will be a while. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/47885-outsourcing-to-india-or-china/#findComment-342963 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superhai Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 I find it troublesome that many support functions are outsourced to ireland. They speak so funny. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/47885-outsourcing-to-india-or-china/#findComment-343257 Share on other sites More sharing options...
killbot1000 Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 I am planning on a State/Government job. I don't have to worry about profit, I can wear what I want, I get state benefits, I wont get fired unless I do something really bad. You get rewarded if you put just a LITTLE more effort into your work than somebody else. Sounds great to me because I don't like working and I love spending time with my friends and family, I would rather not spend my life at work, people work too hard. Realistically though, we don't have much to fear from outsourcing, mainly because when we do this, it brings up the standard of living in China and India. Once the standard of living is raised to a certain level, the workers over there will expect more money for what they are doing, and in time, it wont be profitable to outsource anymore, and then the jobs will come flooding back. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/47885-outsourcing-to-india-or-china/#findComment-343406 Share on other sites More sharing options...
solaar Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 Are you tired of calling a F500 company and getting a foreigner you can't understand? The least understandable are still the Scottish at NTL support in the UK Realistically though, we don't have much to fear from outsourcing, mainly because when we do this, it brings up the standard of living in China and India. Once the standard of living is raised to a certain level, the workers over there will expect more money for what they are doing, and in time, it wont be profitable to outsource anymore, and then the jobs will come flooding back. Another factor is that their purchasing power will increase and that there might be higher demand for western products. Sounds good at first sight but only some of the profits will flow directly back into our economies in the form of investments, creating jobs etc... Most of those huge profits are very likely to "vanish" on some numbered bank accounts in the Bahamas and in obscure tax write-off projects (as usual), just for the personal pleasure of an alarmingly increasing number of 'Uncle Scrooges'.... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/47885-outsourcing-to-india-or-china/#findComment-343438 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lactobacillus P Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 Outsourcing might look cheap in terms of lower wages etc, but with more complex projects it is a big hassle to coordinate the work properly. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/47885-outsourcing-to-india-or-china/#findComment-343455 Share on other sites More sharing options...
solaar Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 Outsourcing might look cheap in terms of lower wages etc, but with more complex projects it is a big hassle to coordinate the work properly. Very true. That's why quite a few companies have repatriated their developments after a while and left only first level support and minor routine maintenance outsourced. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/47885-outsourcing-to-india-or-china/#findComment-343487 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OryHara Posted April 10, 2007 Author Share Posted April 10, 2007 Outsourcing might look cheap in terms of lower wages etc, but with more complex projects it is a big hassle to coordinate the work properly. If outsourcing were taxed heavily? Tariff? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/47885-outsourcing-to-india-or-china/#findComment-343878 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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