identity Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 hey i am back. my exams finished ....ok g_face2k i have an idea i dont know it works or not.....as qemu is opensource(most of things r written in assembly c c++) can any of expert in this forum copy the sse2 emulation code in that and merge with already existing sse3 layer?.....i meen sse3 emulation layer..... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/38763-os-x-for-sse-qemu/page/15/#findComment-649790 Share on other sites More sharing options...
@nd®£§§!! Posted March 2, 2008 Share Posted March 2, 2008 Waht about linux bios?, i think that is the best, and SSE->SSE3 emulation idea, is out, we need programers, good programmers and nobody but us are interesed on this Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/38763-os-x-for-sse-qemu/page/15/#findComment-650631 Share on other sites More sharing options...
identity Posted March 2, 2008 Share Posted March 2, 2008 i dont know how it is...is it better? how is speed in that.....i went to coreboot site and downloaded it....but i dont know how to use it....can u help me@nd®£§§!! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/38763-os-x-for-sse-qemu/page/15/#findComment-650733 Share on other sites More sharing options...
@nd®£§§!! Posted March 2, 2008 Share Posted March 2, 2008 ok, basically LinuxBios (now coreboot), replaces your system bios with linux, so you have to flash your BIOS (if you are going to try, you better try on a comp you are not using), and it takes about 3sec from cold start to get a Xserver, without any harddrive or pre-installed os, and LinuxBios has qemu inside, so, from X, you can start qemu, make a script and start OSX from a hardrive. I Ignore, if linux bios can detect the harddrive so qemu can start osx from a HD, otherwise, qemu has to be patched for sse3 emulation and ACPI, i think first, we have to build qemu so it can start osx .iso and sse3 stable, .. blah blah.... then flash old pc´s using linuxbios and the put "stable qemu" on linux bios, make a script and then OSX could start like native Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/38763-os-x-for-sse-qemu/page/15/#findComment-651515 Share on other sites More sharing options...
identity Posted March 3, 2008 Share Posted March 3, 2008 but can i run win lin bsd natively using linuxbios like a normal bios?....anyway will try it inside vmware...who cares if vmware bios gets scroved up............... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/38763-os-x-for-sse-qemu/page/15/#findComment-652336 Share on other sites More sharing options...
@nd®£§§!! Posted March 3, 2008 Share Posted March 3, 2008 srivathsa, I Doubt you can flash vmware bios.. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/38763-os-x-for-sse-qemu/page/15/#findComment-652803 Share on other sites More sharing options...
masoudt Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 I'm extremely interested in this as well, owning an Athlon XP 2400+ that I would love to put OS X on. Unfortunately my talents in the computer programming arena are about as useful as Paris Hilton's talents in the acting/singing/anything else arena..... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/38763-os-x-for-sse-qemu/page/15/#findComment-653452 Share on other sites More sharing options...
identity Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 hey onemore thing ....i think i wont be able to install any os natively?.... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/38763-os-x-for-sse-qemu/page/15/#findComment-653798 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugenemacmahon Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 hey onemore thing ....i think i wont be able to install any os natively?.... At this point I know this is a rhetorical statement but I think its worth asking the question. Even (as fantastic as it would be) if you do manage to package together a combination of corelinux and qemu to emulate SSE3/2, would other system incompatibilities be a huge problem due to the age of the hardware? Im drawing my point from the process I'm currently going through with one of my laptops (acer travelmate 240) which has SSE2 processor but is almost impossible to get leopard working on (I have 10.4.1 working). Dont get me wrong at all, I really want this to work as I have two other systems that I would like to get running even 10.4.1 at least. Just asking a question. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/38763-os-x-for-sse-qemu/page/15/#findComment-654063 Share on other sites More sharing options...
@nd®£§§!! Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 Qemu emulates hardware (i think) so maybe drivers for "OSX qemu emulated hardware" can be written and all of us (SSE2/3 -Less) would be using the same qemu for runing osx so will be using the same drivers ... i think, if don´t we have to find a way. No one knows good programmers interesed on this? Maybe if we offer a payment Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/38763-os-x-for-sse-qemu/page/15/#findComment-654480 Share on other sites More sharing options...
g_face2k Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 I took a long break from messing with my method, it started to {censored} me off. Any way I modify the dragon slax iso, basically put it on a diet. It uses a total of 156MB after loading Xorg using fluxbox, this is great cause it uses less memory than dragons iso. The problem is that even on my 1.2Ghz P3 it still runs slowwww! I'm gonna try to make a module using the stuff in this website http://alex.csgraf.de/self/?qemu/ , I hope to get a speed increase using this method. On the core boot topic, the problem is that it doesn't work with a lot of the P3 mother board chipsets (I have the Intel 815 & 830) so it would limit who will actually benefit from this, especially laptop users. I wonder if it would be easier to find a cpu socket 370 converter (I know there used to be Pentium 1 to Pentium 3 converters) to plug in a pentium 4 and just do OSX natively that way OR via qemu+kqemu (if mother board chipset incompatibilities). Well scratch that last one, I guess you can go P1 to P3 but P4's FSB is totally different so no P4 to P3 converter. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/38763-os-x-for-sse-qemu/page/15/#findComment-656195 Share on other sites More sharing options...
identity Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 I took a long break from messing with my method, it started to {censored} me off. Any way I modify the dragon slax iso, basically put it on a diet. It uses a total of 156MB after loading Xorg using fluxbox, this is great cause it uses less memory than dragons iso. The problem is that even on my 1.2Ghz P3 it still runs slowwww! I'm gonna try to make a module using the stuff in this website http://alex.csgraf.de/self/?qemu/ , I hope to get a speed increase using this method. On the core boot topic, the problem is that it doesn't work with a lot of the P3 mother board chipsets (I have the Intel 815 & 830) so it would limit who will actually benefit from this, especially laptop users. I wonder if it would be easier to find a cpu socket 370 converter (I know there used to be Pentium 1 to Pentium 3 converters) to plug in a pentium 4 and just do OSX natively that way OR via qemu+kqemu (if mother board chipset incompatibilities). Well scratch that last one, I guess you can go P1 to P3 but P4's FSB is totally different so no P4 to P3 converter. all the best..... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/38763-os-x-for-sse-qemu/page/15/#findComment-666595 Share on other sites More sharing options...
@nd®£§§!! Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 Is This Dead (again)???? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/38763-os-x-for-sse-qemu/page/15/#findComment-679851 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embio Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 this topic is a staggering zombie, it isnt going to die Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/38763-os-x-for-sse-qemu/page/15/#findComment-679940 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruxado Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 Well... with TOH , Kalaway and iATKOS... Why should we use Qemu? =P Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/38763-os-x-for-sse-qemu/page/15/#findComment-679993 Share on other sites More sharing options...
@nd®£§§!! Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 TOH, Kalaway, iATKOS..... Don´t understand, some info please Ok, Ok I Know i must google it before posting.... so i found iATKOS, (uphuck), is a leopard DVD that let install Aditional Software, drivers etc, so your hackintosh can work well, but the question is ... is able ToH, Kalaway. or iAtkos to install SSE patches for our machines? or we have to run iATKOS under qemu?.. waht´s the poitn with that? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/38763-os-x-for-sse-qemu/page/15/#findComment-680905 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruxado Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 Those names I mentioned Enable you to Install Leopard on a PC with SSE2 (such as an Intel Pentium 4 processor, for example). The idea of using Qemu was to permit users to emulate a SSE3 (Dual Core Processors) environment for SSE2 processors... So you see, in my opinion, there is no need for Qemu. *There are also Patches for the mentioned DVD installers for AMD processors* Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/38763-os-x-for-sse-qemu/page/15/#findComment-681052 Share on other sites More sharing options...
identity Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 cruxado u r totally confused..... qemu emulates sse2 not sse3(sse3 is half done i think) iatkos kalyway have sse3 emulated kernel(wont run on sse only sys) so it emulates sse3 instructions for sse2 sys..... so to install these os on an old sys u need sse2 emulator ie qemu..... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/38763-os-x-for-sse-qemu/page/15/#findComment-681838 Share on other sites More sharing options...
@nd®£§§!! Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 yeah but we can install iATKOS under qemu, and that must work without make any modifications to qemu Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/38763-os-x-for-sse-qemu/page/15/#findComment-682221 Share on other sites More sharing options...
identity Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 dead again?...... common people let us discuss abt this (anything u know abt running leo or tiger on old sys)...... anybody ?....interested or not? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/38763-os-x-for-sse-qemu/page/15/#findComment-686480 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruxado Posted March 30, 2008 Share Posted March 30, 2008 I was just testing the Qemu option to install Tiger on a P4... I was never developing anything. Try contacting the other memebers... like Dragon. Either that... or buy a new machine! jejeje... they are pretty cheap now a days. Best of Luck! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/38763-os-x-for-sse-qemu/page/15/#findComment-689135 Share on other sites More sharing options...
identity Posted March 31, 2008 Share Posted March 31, 2008 I was just testing the Qemu option to install Tiger on a P4... I was never developing anything. Try contacting the other memebers... like Dragon. Either that... or buy a new machine! jejeje... they are pretty cheap now a days. Best of Luck! to me?.... i have 2 system one new and another old....me too testing like u in my old sys..... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/38763-os-x-for-sse-qemu/page/15/#findComment-690024 Share on other sites More sharing options...
identity Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 how is boches is it better ?..... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/38763-os-x-for-sse-qemu/page/15/#findComment-692898 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JordanNB Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 So has this actually worked for someone? I'm considering purchasing a new rig, but I has socket A, meaning no SSE2! If it does work, how well does it work? Thanks! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/38763-os-x-for-sse-qemu/page/15/#findComment-699340 Share on other sites More sharing options...
@nd®£§§!! Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 nop, it hasn´t worked yet, but we´ll keep trying... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/38763-os-x-for-sse-qemu/page/15/#findComment-708827 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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