Funky frank Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Hi, the graphical performance on my 10.12.6 using recent Nvidia web drivers is pretty low. I am using a 4K DP screen, and it boots into macOS without a problem, and Nvidia kext are loaded, OpenCL for Nvidia is available. Still the recent firefox 57 is so painfully slow while windows resizing, it even sometimes stutters while fast scrolling. Any idea how to improve this? Could this be related with a very low idle frequency (had a similar issue on a gt330m) ? Would I benefit from upgrading to 10.13.1 (and having metal2 then)? Thanks for ideas. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/329656-poor-desktop-performance-w-webdrivers-10126-and-1050ti/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
PPCnostalgic Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 If you switch to a lower res (e.g. 2560x1440) does it work faster or still the same? BTW I have a GT 1030 similar to yours but less powerful (Pascal graphic family) on my HP Z400 and I'm running High Sierra 10.13.1 very fast and smooth, although I can't tell you about 4k, this monitor is 1080, but the card works fine with Nvidia Web Driver. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/329656-poor-desktop-performance-w-webdrivers-10126-and-1050ti/#findComment-2535082 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch_de Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 I have an 1030GT (much slower than yours) working fast in your cases on Sierra. So the problem must be somethings else. Idle Mode of GPU (not swithcing to normal / fast GPU clk) , even under load could be an reason if the drivers are really loaded and used for OpenGL/Metal/OpenCL but alls is slooooow, like unaccellerated. First i would remove the Fake SMC GPUSensors.kext if you use it ( its an Plugin within the FakeSMC.kext or extra FakeSMC_GPUSensors.kext). For Pascal these kext didnt work and maybe have negative side effects on for running pascal gpus. Other thing cab be that, depends on smbios mac Modell (more exact _ Board-ID, like my Mac-FC02E91DDD3FA6A4 (iMac, 13,2) or Mac_modell together with GFX0 named GPU (in DSDT/Clover), that AGPM for GPU has negative side effect (loaded but harms the gpu clk stepping). AGPM "looks" for Mac-Board ID (also some keys are Mac_Modell) and then compares for GFX0 found (can be if you patched DSDT or let Clover patch that) ? or VendorDevice ID found (unproblematic for Pascal = they are different). For my Mac-FC02E91DDD3FA6A4 , not having GFX0 in DSDT / not injected/patched by Clover the AppleAGPM is loaded (see in kextstat) but not used because no GFX0 in DSDT. Because AGPM cant find GFX0 in my system & also none of the VendorDevice keys found = AGPM let my Pascal do GPU stepping (idle to max) by itself ( by own GPU BIOS). What can you do to test if AGPM makes problem for your System? You could patch AGPM to not "see" your GFX0 (if you have that in DSDT) by Clover kext patching GFX0 to GFXX for example. I think there are some examples around to do that (with that .kext shows below) Or patch that GFX0 key in .plist by edior (copy kext so desktop first!) to GFXX in your Board-ID section and then use some kextueil (which does ownder/rigths fix & install to S/L/E & rebuild kernel cache / perlinked kernel). If your Board-ID (or Mac Modell) is listed in that .plist but not has GFX0 key there (only iGPU key) AGPM kext is not the problem because no effect on GPU. Here an short cut out of the .plist of what i am talking about: .... <key>Mac-FC02E91DDD3FA6A4</key> <dict> <key>GFX0</key> <dict> <key>Heuristic</key> <dict> <key>ID</key> <integer>4</integer> </dict> <key>control-id</key> <integer>17</integer> </dict> <key>IGPU</key> <dict> <key>Heuristic</key> <dict> <key>EnableOverride</key> <integer>0</integer> <key>ID</key> <integer>2</integer> </dict> <key>control-id</key> <integer>16</integer> </dict> <key>Vendor10deDevice0fe0</key> <dict> <key>BoostPState</key> <array> <integer>14</integer> <integer>14</integer> <integer>14</integer> <integer>14</integer> .... 2 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/329656-poor-desktop-performance-w-webdrivers-10126-and-1050ti/#findComment-2535316 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funky frank Posted January 9, 2018 Author Share Posted January 9, 2018 @mitch_de: Thank you! Yes, my board id "Mac-27ADBB7B4CEE8E61" matches with an GFX0 entry in AGPM Do you think I could completely disable AGPM, or is it also responsible for Intel HD4600 power management? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/329656-poor-desktop-performance-w-webdrivers-10126-and-1050ti/#findComment-2565109 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funky frank Posted January 9, 2018 Author Share Posted January 9, 2018 (edited) And there is no way for overclocking? Because I can find this in /Library/Extensions/NVDAGP100HalWeb.kext/Contents/MacOS/NVDAGP100HalWeb: _clkSetSppllForDpOverclock_STUB _thermDisableIdleSlowdownWAR_STUB And in /Library/Extensions/NVDAResmanWeb.kext/Contents/MacOS/NVDAResmanWeb: PerfLevelSrc PowerMizerEnable PowerMizerDefaultAC PowerMizerLevel PowerMizerHardLevel PowerMizerHardLevelAC AllowMaxPerf DisableOverclockedPstates RMEnableOverclockingAllPstates _clkSetSppllForDpOverclock_STUB _clkForceClockSlowdown_STUB _gcxDeepIdleOverrideStopClocks_STUB _mcConfigureIdleClockSlowdownCounter_STUB _thermConfigureIdleClockSlowdownForMc_STUB RMForceLockedClocksMode _thermDisableIdleSlowdownWAR_STUB RmOverrideIdleSlowdownSettings It seems to be possible in linux to add switches to the nvidia driver: https://askubuntu.com/questions/903747/nvidia-375-33mhz-fixed-gpu-clock-and-hw-slowdown-active-issue More about PowerMizer Settings: http://z-issue.com/wp/nvidia-linux-drivers-powermizer-coolbits-performance-levels-and-gpu-fan-settings/ http://z-issue.com/blog_imgs/tech/linux/nvidia_drivers/nvidia_settings_performance_level_gpu_temp_after_xorg_options.jpg http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/364.19/README/xconfigoptions.html (Coolbits needs to be 12 as it seems) PowerMizerEnable=0x1; PowerMizerDefaultAC=0x3; I can find these switches/strings in the macos driver, too! How can I pass switches/arguments to the macos nvidia driver, any idea? Is that possible in the Info.plist of the NVDAResmanWeb.kext? There seem to be the following kernel command line switches: nvda_drv (enables the driver , 0 or 1) nv_force_preset (assumingly you should be able to setup power profile presets, and force one of these?) nv_numNdrv (N = number?) nv_force_devinit nv_mm_enabled nv_kIOWSAA nv_rm_iolog nv_forceGen2CapsOnX58 nv_reglog nv_displayless nv_EDIDSelect nv_no_auxless nv_accelBacked nv_hdmivsi nv_disable_vps nv_disable_vrr nv_enablePresentmentOptions nv_disableAsyncGammaUpdate nv_10bpcFormat nv_preserveEFIBootSurface nv_spanmodepolicy In NVDAResManWeb, I also found these DSDT switches: NVDA,Enable-A2R10G10B10Format NVDA,Level NVDA,BMP NVDA,accel-loaded NVDA,NVPresentment-version NVDA,noEFI NVDA,cleanboot AAPL,blackscreen-preferences display-type LCD/TV/CRT AAPL0 override-no-edid / override-has-edid / override-has-edid-digital Also found these hardcoded gamma profiles: Mac Standard Gamma NTSC/PAL Gamma 10b Hires Linear Ramp Gamma 12b Hires Linear Ramp Gamma Edited January 11, 2018 by Funky frank Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/329656-poor-desktop-performance-w-webdrivers-10126-and-1050ti/#findComment-2565149 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuongTHVN Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 same issue on my, but GTX 1080 is always run at 1139Hz core clock. i has try AGPM but not work. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/329656-poor-desktop-performance-w-webdrivers-10126-and-1050ti/#findComment-2565908 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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