ozxobez Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 I got OSX native running on my pc. But its very slow, and i can only run at 1024x768 (not the 1280x1024 that i want ) Another weird thing is that it shows that i have 2gb of ramm, i acturly have just 2x 512mb (1gb). My specs: AMD Athlon64 3200+ Venice 2x 512mb PC3200 (Dane-elec) Asus A8N-SLI mobo ATI X800XL PCI-E graphics card An old intel pro 10/100 network card (works perfect ;-) ) Creative soundblaster live 5.1 (not working) i run OSX of a 20gb IDE harddisk (not using the other serial ata disks now) The bootup worked perfect, but when i'm typing now there is a major latency between me typing stuff and apering on the screen ;-) Does anyone knows how to solve this? I used the premade vmware package to install OSX (from the xbox 360 site tutorial) my cpu supports SSE3 btw Thanks. ps, sorry for my bad english Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/160-native-very-slow-and/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Octoploid Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 Yeah, same thing here on AMD64 ASUS A8V. It's the kernel_task process (PID 0) that takes 99% of the CPU. (You can see it if you run the command 'top' in the terminal). I will try different BIOS setting now and will report back if I succeed. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/160-native-very-slow-and/#findComment-1441 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozxobez Posted August 12, 2005 Author Share Posted August 12, 2005 ok, thanks in advance What kind of GFX card do you have? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/160-native-very-slow-and/#findComment-1442 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Octoploid Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 What kind of GFX card do you have? Oh it's a crappy Radeon 7500 (but good enough for 2D and Quake). Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/160-native-very-slow-and/#findComment-1443 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bofors Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 I am going to guess that OSx86 has problems with your chipset. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/160-native-very-slow-and/#findComment-1448 Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeguy Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 Mine's on a Pentium M and I'm getting the same issue? Any clue at all? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/160-native-very-slow-and/#findComment-1450 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Bond Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 Well...I'm currently running on a Pentium 4 1.8ghz SSE2, 512MB of SDRAM and am having no problems whatsoever. Seems to run fine....really smooth, so I suspect it may be something to do with your AMD processors/chipsets perhaps. I have an Intel 815g Which I believe is being recognized as an 830. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/160-native-very-slow-and/#findComment-1454 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Octoploid Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 Success! It is definitely a BIOS settings thing. I loaded my BIOS default values and then tweaked the settings (mostly switching things off that I don't use like Firewire). I then rebooted and BINGO I'm now running with full speed. So everyone hitting this problem (kernel_task eating 100% CPU): Play with your BIOS settings... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/160-native-very-slow-and/#findComment-1464 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozxobez Posted August 12, 2005 Author Share Posted August 12, 2005 Thanks for the advice i'm gonna try it right away! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/160-native-very-slow-and/#findComment-1467 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dew Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 Have you tried taking out the SBLive and using onboard sound? I have the same board and my new HDD for OSX arrives on Monday. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/160-native-very-slow-and/#findComment-1505 Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyvoodoo Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 It's slow because the AppleTPMACPI kernel extension is loading. That causes the kernel to eat up CPU while that KEXT tries to connect to the (nonexistent) hardware. Remove /System/Library/Extensions/AppleTPMACPI.kext, or move it to somewhere else on your drive. If that doesn't fix it, also delete the /System/Library/Extensions.mkext file, as well. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/160-native-very-slow-and/#findComment-1507 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozxobez Posted August 13, 2005 Author Share Posted August 13, 2005 Have you tried taking out the SBLive and using onboard sound? I have the same board and my new HDD for OSX arrives on Monday. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yup, i tried onboard. Its not working I also tried the bios settings, but i dont see any speed changes Thanks for the tip monkeyvoodoo i'm gonna try that Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/160-native-very-slow-and/#findComment-1537 Share on other sites More sharing options...
staulkor Posted August 13, 2005 Share Posted August 13, 2005 what bios settings do i mess with...i just downloaded the version that was on the torrents. I have an AMD 4000+, asus a8v mobo, 2gb corsair xms pro, radeon x800 pro (AGP). It is working fine, but just my simeter is saying 100% cpu. (Running in VMWare btw) Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/160-native-very-slow-and/#findComment-1539 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozxobez Posted August 13, 2005 Author Share Posted August 13, 2005 Its working a littebit better now (dunno how that happend But stil slow, its like a G3 ibook now. It works but still not speedy ) I did the "top" command and this is what i saw: Processes: 40 total, 2 running, 38 sleeping... 127 threads 03:53:32 Load Avg: 2.77, 2.61, 1.72 CPU usage: 1.6% user, 98.4% sys, 0.0% idle SharedLibs: num = 140, resident = 34.2M code, 4.35M data, 7.43M LinkEdit MemRegions: num = 2034, resident = 40.5M + 6.07M private, 42.5M shared PhysMem: 50.4M wired, 65.7M active, 120M inactive, 236M used, 787M free VM: 3.88G + 95.2M 15548(0) pageins, 0(0) pageouts PID COMMAND %CPU TIME #TH #PRTS #MREGS RPRVT RSHRD RSIZE VSIZE 225 Safari 0.3% 0:04.59 6 127 245 13.1M 16.1M 292M 375M 217 ATSServer 0.0% 0:01.59 2 85 113 5.52M 8.43M 11.0M 160M 216 oah750d 0.0% 0:00.00 1 12 40 2.25M 912K 784K 44.0M 211 top 2.2% 0:10.24 1 21 18 396K 896K 2.11M 26.9M 210 bash 0.0% 0:00.00 1 14 14 168K 1.30M 1.24M 27.1M 209 login 0.0% 0:00.00 1 16 33 140K 964K 1.73M 26.9M 202 Terminal 0.8% 0:02.53 4 94 137 2.01M+ 8.68M+ 274M+ 357M+ 197 mdimport 0.0% 0:00.10 3 60 39 684K 2.68M 6.39M 38.3M 182 mdimport 0.0% 0:00.14 4 61 47 848K 2.89M 7.99M 38.7M 177 mds 0.0% 0:00.24 8 88 58 1.72M 2.66M 6.99M 42.3M 153 Finder 0.0% 0:01.99 3 110 149 5.07M 14.1M 278M 369M 152 SystemUISe 0.0% 0:00.56 2 136 120 1.75M 7.28M 270M 355M 151 Dock 0.0% 0:00.26 2 87 105 772K 6.92M 264M 324M 142 pbs 0.0% 0:00.07 2 38 38 452K 2.98M 5.32M 53.6M 138 crashrepor 0.0% 0:00.00 1 35 17 116K 828K 740K 27.1M 134 automount 0.0% 0:00.01 3 40 26 292K 1.34M 3.03M 28.7M I'm gonna try the thing from voodoomonkey now... @staulkor: I tried the firewire settings, onboard things like sound/lan etc. Monkeyvoodoo just made my day! It's fast as lightning! I only removed the AppleTPMACPI.kext file, and *whoom!* I had a Ibook G4, a Imac G5 and a Powermac G5, but nothing beats this! what a speed Only things left to get working is the sound, and the graphics (ati ) Does anybody know why things like Itunes and Adiumx aint working? i have a SSE3 capable cpu (Venice core) And i'm using the install from the 1.28gb vmware bla bla torrent Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/160-native-very-slow-and/#findComment-1541 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozxobez Posted August 14, 2005 Author Share Posted August 14, 2005 I have the image of the orginal install DVD, but i have no clue what files i need to restore... :mellow: any help would be great Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/160-native-very-slow-and/#findComment-1704 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalex Posted August 14, 2005 Share Posted August 14, 2005 It's slow because the AppleTPMACPI kernel extension is loading. That causes the kernel to eat up CPU while that KEXT tries to connect to the (nonexistent) hardware. Remove /System/Library/Extensions/AppleTPMACPI.kext, or move it to somewhere else on your drive. If that doesn't fix it, also delete the /System/Library/Extensions.mkext file, as well. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I tried to remove /System/Library/Extensions/AppleTPMACPI.kext file. but it appears its a directory and i can't remove it. i tried rm -r and i got bunch of permissions denied. How can i remove those files? thanks alex Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/160-native-very-slow-and/#findComment-1842 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zero_bit Posted August 14, 2005 Share Posted August 14, 2005 I tried to remove /System/Library/Extensions/AppleTPMACPI.kext file. but it appears its a directory and i can't remove it. i tried rm -r and i got bunch of permissions denied. How can i remove those files? thanks alex <{POST_SNAPBACK}> If you want to remove it permanently, input below. cd /System/Library/Extensions/ sudo rm -rf AppleTPMACPI.kext (Your password will required.) Or, just to make sure, move it to other directory. cd /System/Library/Extensions/ sudo mkdir ../Extensions_disabled/ sudo mv AppleTPMACPI.kext ../Extensions_disabled/ Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/160-native-very-slow-and/#findComment-1871 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalex Posted August 14, 2005 Share Posted August 14, 2005 I tried to remove /System/Library/Extensions/AppleTPMACPI.kext file. but it appears its a directory and i can't remove it. i tried rm -r and i got bunch of permissions denied. How can i remove those files? thanks alex <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Figured it out Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/160-native-very-slow-and/#findComment-1873 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gozulin Posted August 14, 2005 Share Posted August 14, 2005 This problem has been fully solved already. While the methods listed above work, this is a better way that does not involve deleting anything.: 1) open up terminal 2) cd /Library/Preferences/SystemConfiguration/ 3) sudo nano com.apple.Boot.plist 4) edit boot options in xml file, Look for the string ... <key>Kernel Flags</key> <string>platform=X86PC "Graphics Mode"="1280x1024x32"</string> ... The red text is what you have to add to make OSX go at normal speeds, the green text is optional and it will set the resolution whatever values you input. For more information on that, hit a key during OSX boot and type "?" . Enjoy a speedy OSX!!! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/160-native-very-slow-and/#findComment-1920 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperweight Posted August 16, 2005 Share Posted August 16, 2005 You know, I tried all of this, and none seem to really work for me. I'm running in vmware and I have SSE3 and lots of ram. I followed the instructions on www.xplodenet.com Is it supposed to run slow in vmware, or is running in vmware (with generous ram and no sound/net etc.) about as fast as natively? Edit: New thread about this. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/160-native-very-slow-and/#findComment-2165 Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbogizzmo Posted August 16, 2005 Share Posted August 16, 2005 Is it supposed to run slow in vmware, or is running in vmware (with generous ram and no sound/net etc.) about as fast as natively? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I had it running on VMware on a machine with 1.24gigs of ram and it was slugish, but then i installed it natively on a machine with only a gig of ram and it is much faster....... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/160-native-very-slow-and/#findComment-2173 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peacabbage Posted August 16, 2005 Share Posted August 16, 2005 I had the same problem, and was able to solve it by disabling all of the unneccessary hardware in the BIOS (firewire, extra NIC, serial port, parallel port, sound). Try disabling everything that isn't absolutely critical, and then slowly switch each one back on inbetween reboots. Athlon64 3000+ MSI Neo2 Platinum Gforce3 939 1GB OCZ Low Latency ram ATI 9800 Pro Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/160-native-very-slow-and/#findComment-2376 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyDennis Posted August 24, 2005 Share Posted August 24, 2005 You know, I tried all of this, and none seem to really work for me. I'm running in vmware and I have SSE3 and lots of ram. I followed the instructions on www.xplodenet.com Is it supposed to run slow in vmware, or is running in vmware (with generous ram and no sound/net etc.) about as fast as natively? Edit: New thread about this. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Try using "platform=ACPI" instead of X86PC. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/160-native-very-slow-and/#findComment-6227 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SniperKil Posted August 24, 2005 Share Posted August 24, 2005 i score under 10 on the xbench cpu test.. everything else is in the 30-50 range.. i dont understand it... ive removed the file.. cpu usage is at 0.. i cant boot into x86os mode with the nforce3 chipset... it still shouldent be this slow in ACPI mode.. Athlon 64 3000+ @ 2.4GHz 1GB corsair pc3200 and yes ive tried default values and turning {censored} off :/ Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/160-native-very-slow-and/#findComment-6305 Share on other sites More sharing options...
emvy03 Posted June 21, 2007 Share Posted June 21, 2007 Hi, i copy the image to a 16gb external hard drive and boot from it. when i boot from my pc it locks up on the apple logo and the message saying i have to reboot comes up. this happens everytime i load up. when i boot on my laptop the apple logo comes up and the revolving circle which shows its loading up just spins and this just happens until i turn it off manually. this also happens in safe mode. what should i do. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/160-native-very-slow-and/#findComment-391228 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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