stuppy Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 Hi there. I use a Macbook Pro for my main computer - connected to a 24inch screen. I would love a Mac Pro but they are way too expensive. I have been looking in the OSX86 project for a while now. But have never really understood where you start and how you maintain the system. I am not looking for a blow by blow description - just a general outlay of the steps/guides to follow. If I were to buy a system that was built on one of the Gigabyte boards that seems to be the most compatible from my readings - is there then a hacked version of Leopard on torrents or something that I can install Leopard straight out the box and it work - or is there always going to be some patching of files pre and post installation that I must do? Also - if I build a system that is comprised of recomended parts - will I have a system that works as a Mac bought from Apple would? Will all parts of the OS function properly? And finally - if I install one of the Images that are floating around (i have seen one called atkios 10.5.4 i think its called), can I then run Software Update and grab any updates liek I would on my MBP? Or do I have to wait for patched updates? Also - regarding the future - is OSX always going to be able to run on a x86 machine? Is there anything Apple can do to really stop it in future updates? Many thanks for your help. Sorry if I posted this in the wrong forum. There didn't seem to be a category fitting . Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/144339-is-a-hackintosh-hard-to-maintain/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackinjosh Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 First step is to google for a torrent file of the most recent OSX86 install disk. I used the iDeneb v1.3 10.5.5 dvd. Download the image, burn it to a dvd and boot your PC from it. When you install be sure to click the "Customize" button so you can select to install apropriate drivers. Again google around for a howto on installing and recommended hardware. I use an Acer Extensa 4620z laptop that I got for $500 and I love it. For the most part maintenance is easy. Updating the OS can be tricky (see my other posts) but everything else works just fine using the apple auto updater. Good Luck! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/144339-is-a-hackintosh-hard-to-maintain/#findComment-1024494 Share on other sites More sharing options...
VooD Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 Hi there. I use a Macbook Pro for my main computer - connected to a 24inch screen. I would love a Mac Pro but they are way too expensive. I have been looking in the OSX86 project for a while now. But have never really understood where you start and how you maintain the system. I am not looking for a blow by blow description - just a general outlay of the steps/guides to follow. If I were to buy a system that was built on one of the Gigabyte boards that seems to be the most compatible from my readings - is there then a hacked version of Leopard on torrents or something that I can install Leopard straight out the box and it work - or is there always going to be some patching of files pre and post installation that I must do? Also - if I build a system that is comprised of recomended parts - will I have a system that works as a Mac bought from Apple would? Will all parts of the OS function properly? And finally - if I install one of the Images that are floating around (i have seen one called atkios 10.5.4 i think its called), can I then run Software Update and grab any updates liek I would on my MBP? Or do I have to wait for patched updates? Also - regarding the future - is OSX always going to be able to run on a x86 machine? Is there anything Apple can do to really stop it in future updates? Many thanks for your help. Sorry if I posted this in the wrong forum. There didn't seem to be a category fitting . Most of your question could be answered just by reading at this forum, anyway...there are several "distros" out there, but the best method to install osx is using the REAL retail disc and cdboot-132. This allows you to exactly know what are you doing in your installation and create the most vanilla (original file based) possible system. A properly configured and compatible computer will run as well as any Mac (in fact faster when you compare 4/2 cores mac's with 4/2 cores modern hackintoshes) It's true Gigabyte board are very compatible, but I really hate the delay they have in AHCI mode (necessary for vanilla installation and saving you for lots of problems in osx). Asus boards are not as compatible but they boot much faster. You can use System Update, as long as you have your system correctly setup. Apple can completly kill os x on PC's at the very moment they want. There are lots of ways they could use to prevent os x of running in generic pc's. To sum up, I would say there are two options, you can either: 1.- Run one of those distros and pray for getting everything working out of the box (though I still have not seen a distro as fast and clean as a vanilla installation done by yourself) 2.- Do a vanilla installation (which requires some more or less advanced computer knowledges in order to be able to solve potential problems) Anyway, if you like computers, tweaking, hacking, etc...a hackintosh if your perfect toy, on the other hand if all you want from a computer is use it for checking your mail, doing some image editing, and that kind of stuff, you should really stay with a real Mac. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/144339-is-a-hackintosh-hard-to-maintain/#findComment-1024500 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuppy Posted January 3, 2009 Author Share Posted January 3, 2009 Thanks for the advice. Could I trouble you to check the spec I have lined up :- 850W Silverstone SST-ST85ZF Quad SLi +12V rail, Quad PCI-E, ATX 12V 2.2 & EPS12V, RoHS Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600, SLACR G0, S775, 2.40 GHz 1066MHz 8MB Cache, 9x Multiplier, Retail Gigabyte GA-EP45-DS3R, iP45 Express, S775, PCI-E 2.0x16, DDR2 1066/1200/800, SATA II, SATA RAID, ATX 512MB XFX 9800 GT XXX, PCI-E 2.0 (x16), 1800MHz GDDR3, GPU 670MHz, 112 Cores, 2xDL DVI-I/ HDTV 4GB (2x2GB) Corsair TwinX DDR2 XMS2, PC2-8500 (1066), 240 Pin, Non-ECC Unbuffered, CAS 7-7-7-20 Does this look like a decent base for a hackintosh? Many thanks to anyone who can help. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/144339-is-a-hackintosh-hard-to-maintain/#findComment-1024502 Share on other sites More sharing options...
VooD Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 Thanks for the advice. Could I trouble you to check the spec I have lined up :- 850W Silverstone SST-ST85ZF Quad SLi +12V rail, Quad PCI-E, ATX 12V 2.2 & EPS12V, RoHS Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600, SLACR G0, S775, 2.40 GHz 1066MHz 8MB Cache, 9x Multiplier, Retail Gigabyte GA-EP45-DS3R, iP45 Express, S775, PCI-E 2.0x16, DDR2 1066/1200/800, SATA II, SATA RAID, ATX 512MB XFX 9800 GT XXX, PCI-E 2.0 (x16), 1800MHz GDDR3, GPU 670MHz, 112 Cores, 2xDL DVI-I/ HDTV 4GB (2x2GB) Corsair TwinX DDR2 XMS2, PC2-8500 (1066), 240 Pin, Non-ECC Unbuffered, CAS 7-7-7-20 Does this look like a decent base for a hackintosh? Many thanks to anyone who can help. Your setup should work. I assembled a very similar computer for a friend and got everything working from a Vanilla install tough you will need modified kexts for audio and ich10r (so the sata disk are shown as internal) and some extra kexts to get ethernet, and video acceleration working. And of course the basic hackintosh kexts, a smbios injector, a AppleIntelCPUPowerManager disabler, dsmos.kext or decrypter.kext, etc) Btw, 850W????? just for a single 9800GT??? That's insane. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/144339-is-a-hackintosh-hard-to-maintain/#findComment-1024509 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacUser2525 Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 Thanks for the advice. Could I trouble you to check the spec I have lined up :- 850W Silverstone SST-ST85ZF Quad SLi +12V rail, Quad PCI-E, ATX 12V 2.2 & EPS12V, RoHS Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600, SLACR G0, S775, 2.40 GHz 1066MHz 8MB Cache, 9x Multiplier, Retail Gigabyte GA-EP45-DS3R, iP45 Express, S775, PCI-E 2.0x16, DDR2 1066/1200/800, SATA II, SATA RAID, ATX 512MB XFX 9800 GT XXX, PCI-E 2.0 (x16), 1800MHz GDDR3, GPU 670MHz, 112 Cores, 2xDL DVI-I/ HDTV 4GB (2x2GB) Corsair TwinX DDR2 XMS2, PC2-8500 (1066), 240 Pin, Non-ECC Unbuffered, CAS 7-7-7-20 Does this look like a decent base for a hackintosh? Many thanks to anyone who can help. Pretty close to what I have already for my main machine it works well. The power supply is overkill you really only need something in the 500w+ range according to my Kill-A-Watt meter I ran on mine. If you are not going to overclock the FSB past 500mhz which is highly doubtful with the Q6600 probably won't get it past 400 then you only need some DDR2-800, may as well spend that money on some low latency ram than higher speed rating. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/144339-is-a-hackintosh-hard-to-maintain/#findComment-1024514 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuppy Posted January 3, 2009 Author Share Posted January 3, 2009 VooD, MacUser2525 and hackinjosh.. thank you for helping me Thought nobody would help - thought you'd all be sick of noobs haha. RE: The 850w PSU. I haven't built a computer for a couple of years. PSU requirements have always confused me. Didn't realise it would be so overkill lol. I have an Enermax 620w PSU in my current rig that was built bout 14 months ago. I will have to check whether its compatible with the Gigabyte board. Might not need a new PSU at all ) Thanks! VooD : When you say I need all the modified kexts and smbios injectors etc, are these all things that I simply download and copy to a folder or do I need to run commands to install them into the installer or something? I am really sorry if I am asking questions that are already answered out there. There is so much information its difficult to know where to start. I am computer literate. Once I get on the right path I can generally find my way. Are there any tutorials or guides out there for doing a vanilla install using the 10.5.4 retail disc? Many thanks, Stu Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/144339-is-a-hackintosh-hard-to-maintain/#findComment-1025114 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacUser2525 Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 VooD, MacUser2525 and hackinjosh.. thank you for helping me Thought nobody would help - thought you'd all be sick of noobs haha. Not the ones that do some research and ask intelligent questions. RE: The 850w PSU. I haven't built a computer for a couple of years. PSU requirements have always confused me. Didn't realise it would be so overkill lol. I have an Enermax 620w PSU in my current rig that was built bout 14 months ago. I will have to check whether its compatible with the Gigabyte board. Might not need a new PSU at all ) Thanks! If it has the 8 pin connector your good to go otherwise something around that that size with it is needed. VooD : When you say I need all the modified kexts and smbios injectors etc, are these all things that I simply download and copy to a folder or do I need to run commands to install them into the installer or something? Yes you can download them to install you can get a program called kext helper to do it for you or use the command line. I am really sorry if I am asking questions that are already answered out there. There is so much information its difficult to know where to start. I am computer literate. Once I get on the right path I can generally find my way. Yeah definitely can be confusing. Are there any tutorials or guides out there for doing a vanilla install using the 10.5.4 retail disc? Many thanks, Stu Really the easiest solution for you is to spend an extra $20 or so for an external USB SATA enclosure for your drive you will be putting in the machine. Once you have this you don't need to put the drive in there just use connector part so you can hook it up to a USB port on your Mac with the drive on the anti-static bag it came with open the retail install disk on the Mac choose the external you have partitioned/formatted as the destination for the install let it go through. Now you will want to do the same with the combo update for 10.5.6 open it let it install on the external then you need to make your modifications so it will be able to boot on a PC. If you were getting a 8800GT for the video card then your install would for all that matters to OSX be virtually identical to my main machine which I have down to a couple of files needed to boot and a couple of modified AHCI .plist other than that it is a vanilla install. You would need an extra step for the sound if wanting the on-board working I have an Audigy in mine now that works rather well with the kX driver so I don't need that. If you want to try and get the system as close to mine as possible with the video card then I can provide all the files you need to boot the almost vanilla install then you would need to get the sound working. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/144339-is-a-hackintosh-hard-to-maintain/#findComment-1025199 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuppy Posted January 3, 2009 Author Share Posted January 3, 2009 Not the ones that do some research and ask intelligent questions. If it has the 8 pin connector your good to go otherwise something around that that size with it is needed. Yes you can download them to install you can get a program called kext helper to do it for you or use the command line. Yeah definitely can be confusing. Really the easiest solution for you is to spend an extra $20 or so for an external USB SATA enclosure for your drive you will be putting in the machine. Once you have this you don't need to put the drive in there just use connector part so you can hook it up to a USB port on your Mac with the drive on the anti-static bag it came with open the retail install disk on the Mac choose the external you have partitioned/formatted as the destination for the install let it go through. Now you will want to do the same with the combo update for 10.5.6 open it let it install on the external then you need to make your modifications so it will be able to boot on a PC. If you were getting a 8800GT for the video card then your install would for all that matters to OSX be virtually identical to my main machine which I have down to a couple of files needed to boot and a couple of modified AHCI .plist other than that it is a vanilla install. You would need an extra step for the sound if wanting the on-board working I have an Audigy in mine now that works rather well with the kX driver so I don't need that. If you want to try and get the system as close to mine as possible with the video card then I can provide all the files you need to boot the almost vanilla install then you would need to get the sound working. Hi MacUser, My PSU is 2.2 ATX - I think that is the latest? Fingers crossed I don't need a new PSU. I did a bit of research into installing Hackintosh on my current system but the motherboard is an ASUS P5W DH Deluxe - I have found some threads about it on here but I am under the impression it would be harder task getting it working than using a Gigabyte board. Though, it might be a good chance for me to play around with OSx86 without spending money. The CPU is a Core2Duo E6300. Another quick question :- When installing OSX on an Apple Mac, I have been able to use Disk Utility to restore the image of the install onto a partition on an external USB hard drive and install it from that - no need for DVD's. Can I do this method on an on a hackintosh? Again, man thanks! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/144339-is-a-hackintosh-hard-to-maintain/#findComment-1025220 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacUser2525 Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 Hi MacUser, My PSU is 2.2 ATX - I think that is the latest? Fingers crossed I don't need a new PSU. I did a bit of research into installing Hackintosh on my current system but the motherboard is an ASUS P5W DH Deluxe - I have found some threads about it on here but I am under the impression it would be harder task getting it working than using a Gigabyte board. Though, it might be a good chance for me to play around with OSx86 without spending money. The CPU is a Core2Duo E6300. Definite idea to try did a quick search seems like a few people have it working it is an older board using the ICH7 chipset so there may be a few more patches involved.. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=A...&lr=lang_en Another quick question :- When installing OSX on an Apple Mac, I have been able to use Disk Utility to restore the image of the install onto a partition on an external USB hard drive and install it from that - no need for DVD's. Can I do this method on an on a hackintosh? Again, man thanks! Your welcome, that is one I am not sure of I have never owned an Intel Mac so am not certain if the Macbook install would work with modifications to boot that way. One thing you can still do though is use that external to install the retail disk onto then make your modifications to it boot the machine to see how everything is detected/works. What I usually do with my machines is clone to the external I have for that purpose re-install the boot loader then boot from it to test any Apple upgrades/changes I want to make to the system to ensure it works so it will work for that. If you want to give it a go on the external drive with the machine then give us a list of what hardware you currently have in the machine and we can give you instructions on how to install to the external. If it has an Award BIOS plus windows already installed/can be installed go to the thread below to get yourself a DSDT.aml to make things easier with less patching. Now when I ran it the DSDT.aml would only be saved to C:\ and I choose under General everything, Network time machine fix, Video choose my card, Fixes everything checked the generate the DSDT.aml so give it a go to see how it works for you this will save a lot of effort if it does. http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?sho...=142434&hl= Edit: Just seen this thread here it is in French but from what I can read of it buddy seems to have had good success with the same board. http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?sho...=144243&hl= Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/144339-is-a-hackintosh-hard-to-maintain/#findComment-1025279 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuppy Posted January 3, 2009 Author Share Posted January 3, 2009 Definite idea to try did a quick search seems like a few people have it working it is an older board using the ICH7 chipset so there may be a few more patches involved.. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=A...&lr=lang_en Your welcome, that is one I am not sure of I have never owned an Intel Mac so am not certain if the Macbook install would work with modifications to boot that way. One thing you can still do though is use that external to install the retail disk onto then make your modifications to it boot the machine to see how everything is detected/works. What I usually do with my machines is clone to the external I have for that purpose re-install the boot loader then boot from it to test any Apple upgrades/changes I want to make to the system to ensure it works so it will work for that. If you want to give it a go on the external drive with the machine then give us a list of what hardware you currently have in the machine and we can give you instructions on how to install to the external. If it has an Award BIOS plus windows already installed/can be installed go to the thread below to get yourself a DSDT.aml to make things easier with less patching. Now when I ran it the DSDT.aml would only be saved to C:\ and I choose under General everything, Network time machine fix, Video choose my card, Fixes everything checked the generate the DSDT.aml so give it a go to see how it works for you this will save a lot of effort if it does. http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?sho...=142434&hl= Edit: Just seen this thread here it is in French but from what I can read of it buddy seems to have had good success with the same board. http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?sho...=144243&hl= Hi MacUser, Thanks. The BIOS on my ASUS board is an American Megatrends BIOS. That a problem? The hardware in the system is : Intel Core2Duo 1.86Ghz E6300 ASUS P5W DH Deluxe Mobo 2 GB Memory 200GB HDD Gainward Geforce 7900GS 512MB I think there is an Audigy2 in there as well. The optical drives are PATA not SATA - which I think might be a problem? I have an external USB DVD Writer if that can be used. If you are willing and have time then a small guide for me to follow to get started on that would be fantastic. I am still looking myself ... its knowing where to start. I think once I am on the road I will pick things up quickly. Its knowing all the names of the apps like Chameleon and Boot-132 - and how they work. Thats another thing that I think holds me back - I don't like doing something if I don't know what its doing and why its doing it. I don't mean down to the code level, I mean like - why am I using program x - what does it do to let me use hack x. ) So yeah, any more help you can offer will be greatly received. Thanks Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/144339-is-a-hackintosh-hard-to-maintain/#findComment-1025391 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuppy Posted January 3, 2009 Author Share Posted January 3, 2009 Hi there, I have just finished install iDeneb 1.3 10.5.5. It installed fine but after the next reboot when it came to selecting which drive to boot from, it failed and rebooted. Text came up, echo's from the loading process I presume, but I could never see it. Went off too fast. I am assuming it has something to do with the bootloader? I am going to do a second reinstall now, and try some fixes from the custom install section. Any advice welcome. Thanks. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/144339-is-a-hackintosh-hard-to-maintain/#findComment-1025517 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacUser2525 Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 Hi MacUser, Thanks. The BIOS on my ASUS board is an American Megatrends BIOS. That a problem? No just means you cannot run the rather fine tool I linked too which would save you a few steps/modifications to be made. The hardware in the system is : Intel Core2Duo 1.86Ghz E6300 ASUS P5W DH Deluxe Mobo 2 GB Memory 200GB HDD Gainward Geforce 7900GS 512MB I think there is an Audigy2 in there as well. The optical drives are PATA not SATA - which I think might be a problem? I have an external USB DVD Writer if that can be used. Other than the PATA which can be a problem looks good and never tried one but external burners are supported in OS X so should be able to be used if needing to disable the IDE controller. What is it BTW a Jmicron controller if so I have a fix included for that. If you are willing and have time then a small guide for me to follow to get started on that would be fantastic. Sure firstly open a Terminal on your Mac and then type in sudo -s to become root then hit enter key enter your password when requested. Now insert your retail install disk let it open then quit the installer leaving the disk still mounted ie. you still see it on the Desktop now copy/paste then hit enter key the following into the Terminal. cd /Volumes/Mac\ OS\ X\ Install\ DVD/System/Installation/Packages This changes you to the directory containing the installer next. open OSInstall.mpkg Opens the installer you just proceed as you normally would when installing, you would have wanted to make sure that the USB external was either before install or during the installer if it lets you formatted HFS+ being GUID partitioned. You also want the combo update for 10.5.6 you can download from Apple's website so when the installer finishes you open the combo to install it too the external partition where the retail was put then in teminal again to take back ownership of the disk so when do the rest needed. /usr/sbin/vsdbutil -a /Volumes/Your_Install_Partitions_Name cd Changes you back to your / partition on the Mac allowing you to unmount the install DVD. Move .kext not needed/that can cause problems. mv /Volumes/Your_Install_Partitions_Name/System/Library/Extensions/AppleEFIRuntime.kext /Volumes/Your_Install_Partitions_Name/System/Library/Extensions/AppleEFIRuntime.kext-10.5.6 mv /Volumes/Your_Install_Partitions_Name/System/Library/Extensions/AppleIntelCPUPowerManagement.kext /Volumes/Your_Install_Partitions_Name/System/Library/Extensions/AppleIntelCPUPowerManagement.kext-10.5.6 mv /Volumes/Your_Install_Partitions_Name/System/Library/Extensions/AppleThermal.kext /Volumes/Your_Install_Partitions_Name/System/Library/Extensions/AppleThermal.kext-10.5.6 Now I have attached a package of files that you will need to extract since you will most likely have it in your Downloads directory all commands below assume that location you should change it if different and of course you change the Your_Install_Partitions_Name to what you called yours in all of the commands containing it. cp -r ~/Downloads/PW5DH_Install_Pack/dsmos.kext /Volumes/Your_Install_Partitions_Name/System/Library/Extensions/ This is the main thing that allows a PC to be seen as a Mac allowing it to boot. cp -r ~/Downloads/PW5DH_Install_Pack/OpenHaltRestart_1.0.3.kext /Volumes/Your_Install_Partitions_Name/System/Library/Extensions/ Hopefully will allow full shutdown/restart without problems. cp ~/Downloads/PW5DH_Install_Pack/com.apple.Boot.plist /Volumes/Your_Install_Partitions_Name/Library/Preferences/SystemConfiguration/com.apple.Boot.plist EFI string for a 7900gs 512mb for QE/CI and SMBIOS information that should allow System Profiler to see your machine as an iMac model 7,1 using ddr2 800 ram CPU speed 1.86ghz. cp ~/Downloads/PW5DH_Install_Pack/IONetworkingFamily /Volumes/Your_Install_Partitions_Name/System/Library/Extensions/IONetworkingFamily.kext/Contents/MacOS/ chown -R 0:0 /Volumes/Your_Install_Partitions_Name/System/Library/Extensions/IONetworkingFamily.kext chmod -R 755 /Volumes/Your_Install_Partitions_Name/System/Library/Extensions/IONetworkingFamily.kext Time machine fix and permission repair. cp ~/Downloads/PW5DH_Install_Pack/AHCIFix/AppleAHCIPort.kext.dir/Contents/Info.plist /Volumes/Your_Install_Partitions_Name/System/Library/Extensions/AppleAHCIPort.kext/Contents/ chown -R 0:0 /Volumes/Your_Install_Partitions_Name/System/Library/Extensions/AppleAHCIPort.kext chmod -R 755 /Volumes/Your_Install_Partitions_Name/System/Library/Extensions/AppleAHCIPort.kext cp ~/Downloads/PW5DH_Install_Pack/AHCIFix/IOAHCIFamily.kext.dir/Contents/PlugIns/IOAHCIBlockStorage.kext.dir/Contents/Info.plist /Volumes/Your_Install_Partitions_Name/System/Library/Extensions/IOAHCIFamily.kext/Contents/PlugIns/IOAHCIBlockStorage.kext/Contents/ chown -R 0:0 /Volumes/Your_Install_Partitions_Name/System/Library/Extensions/IOAHCIFamily.kext chmod -R 755 /Volumes/Your_Install_Partitions_Name/System/Library/Extensions/IOAHCIFamily.kext AHCI fix to show the chipset name and permission fix. Then you need to open the Chameleon installer selecting the volume where you installed to as the destination do no allow it to install onto your Mac. Now in the Terminal again to install the chameleonsm which provides the SMBIOS information from the com.apple.Boot.plist. cp ~/Downloads/PW5DH_Install_Pack/chameleonsm /Volumes/Your_Install_Partitions_Name/ That is about it I think I have not left anything out the other files for the Jmicron and Kx driver for the sound can be installed later after booting into the install. In your BIOS you should disable the IDE controller if possible and set the HPET to 64bit and the Intel controller for the SATA to AHCI mode. I am still looking myself ... its knowing where to start. I think once I am on the road I will pick things up quickly. Its knowing all the names of the apps like Chameleon and Boot-132 - and how they work. Thats another thing that I think holds me back - I don't like doing something if I don't know what its doing and why its doing it. I don't mean down to the code level, I mean like - why am I using program x - what does it do to let me use hack x. ) So yeah, any more help you can offer will be greatly received. Thanks Hopefully I have explained it enough I see you have posted again since I began this you may still want to give this a try as you will know exactly what has been changed on your system making it easier to know where to look if an update breaks something. PW5DH_Install_Pack_Extras.zip PW5DH_Install_Pack.zip Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/144339-is-a-hackintosh-hard-to-maintain/#findComment-1025587 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuppy Posted January 3, 2009 Author Share Posted January 3, 2009 Sorry another thing. If I am installing Leopard to a USB hard drive, how do I then get that onto the PC? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/144339-is-a-hackintosh-hard-to-maintain/#findComment-1025596 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacUser2525 Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 Sorry another thing. If I am installing Leopard to a USB hard drive, how do I then get that onto the PC? Use diskutil partition GUID and format HFS+ on the internal then choose restore the external as the source then the internal as the destination while running from the external then open the Chameleon installer once more choosing the internal partition as the destination then copy over the chamenleonsm file to that internal partition reboot and choose the internal as the boot drive and it should just work as they say. Opps an error in the first post the chameleon copy should be. cp ~/Downloads/PW5DH_Install_Pack/chameleonsm /Volumes/Your_Install_Partitions_Name/boot It needs to replace the original Chameleon's boot file that is already installed that command copies the new one over the old thus replacing it. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/144339-is-a-hackintosh-hard-to-maintain/#findComment-1025621 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuppy Posted January 3, 2009 Author Share Posted January 3, 2009 Sorry, I thought I did post a reply before my last saying thanks. Looks like it didnt post :/ That guide is super! I am working on it right now!. Many thanks! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/144339-is-a-hackintosh-hard-to-maintain/#findComment-1025624 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacUser2525 Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 Sorry, I thought I did post a reply before my last saying thanks. Looks like it didnt post :/ That guide is super! I am working on it right now!. Many thanks! Yeah I saw that there when posting the correction to the chameleonsm copy strange that it disappeared indeed, your welcome BTW. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/144339-is-a-hackintosh-hard-to-maintain/#findComment-1025635 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuppy Posted January 3, 2009 Author Share Posted January 3, 2009 Just going through the combo update at the moment I have another question if I may... When 10.5.7 update is released, what would one need to do ensure the update is successful? I think you said having a bootable image on an external drive is a good idea, a good way to run tests before installing on your main machine yeh? So I would presumeably run the update on the test install - and then find fixes for it - then do the same on the main rig? How easy is it to fix problems with updates? And is it a case of just waiting for an updated file? Many thanks. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/144339-is-a-hackintosh-hard-to-maintain/#findComment-1025656 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacUser2525 Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 Just going through the combo update at the moment I have another question if I may... When 10.5.7 update is released, what would one need to do ensure the update is successful? I think you said having a bootable image on an external drive is a good idea, a good way to run tests before installing on your main machine yeh? So I would presumeably run the update on the test install - and then find fixes for it - then do the same on the main rig? How easy is it to fix problems with updates? And is it a case of just waiting for an updated file? Many thanks. Yes that is the idea I always use first clone/restore with diskutil then reinstall the Chameleon boot loader & sm file boot the external try the upgrade to see what breaks then fix it most times I will just restore/clone back to my main drive to save me doing it all over again you always need to re-install the chameleon files on every restore/clone it seems to be the only thing that does not get copied. So far the main problem is the AppleIntelCPUManagement.kext it causes the system to freeze as soon as it is loaded but there is the DSDT.aml which can help solve that problem or the Disabler.kext I believe is used for that as well never tried so not certain with that one and you need to apply the AHCIfix/Time Machine if they get updated these won't stop you from booting though. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/144339-is-a-hackintosh-hard-to-maintain/#findComment-1025675 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuppy Posted January 4, 2009 Author Share Posted January 4, 2009 Hiya Think I am about to encounter a problem. I am currently cloning the external drive to the internal drive. I take it I will have to first boot up off the external and then run chameleon again - installing it on the internal drive. Correct? Thanks Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/144339-is-a-hackintosh-hard-to-maintain/#findComment-1025703 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacUser2525 Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 Hiya Think I am about to encounter a problem. I am currently cloning the external drive to the internal drive. I take it I will have to first boot up off the external and then run chameleon again - installing it on the internal drive. Correct? Thanks Are you running the OS X from the external now? If so then no reboot is required just open the Chameleon.dmg installer again select the internal as destination and copy the chameleonsm file to the boot file on the internal and you should be able to boot right off the internal just like the external did. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/144339-is-a-hackintosh-hard-to-maintain/#findComment-1025713 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuppy Posted January 4, 2009 Author Share Posted January 4, 2009 I am just sorting a problem out. I don't actually have a retail DVD - its at work. So im having to do it all by USB boot images on external drives. I put both a bootable retail 10.5.4 partition and the installed osx86 leopard which is bootable, on the same drive. When it started booting off the exteral drive it errored. I am hoping its cause there are two boot partitions. I am just transfering one of the bootable images onto another usb hdd. I can then boot the patched OSX hopefully. Getting this error when I try and boot off the external drive. boot0: GPT boot0: HFS+ boot0: HFS+ boot0: HFS+ boot0: error Ideas? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/144339-is-a-hackintosh-hard-to-maintain/#findComment-1025737 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuppy Posted January 4, 2009 Author Share Posted January 4, 2009 I have removed all the partitions on the drive except one now. Just the installed patched Leopard. I have reapplied chameleon a couple of times to see if that would help but nothing. Googling hasn't help either. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/144339-is-a-hackintosh-hard-to-maintain/#findComment-1025777 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacUser2525 Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 I am just sorting a problem out. I don't actually have a retail DVD - its at work. So im having to do it all by USB boot images on external drives. I put both a bootable retail 10.5.4 partition and the installed osx86 leopard which is bootable, on the same drive. When it started booting off the exteral drive it errored. I am hoping its cause there are two boot partitions. I am just transfering one of the bootable images onto another usb hdd. I can then boot the patched OSX hopefully. Getting this error when I try and boot off the external drive. boot0: GPT boot0: HFS+ boot0: HFS+ boot0: HFS+ boot0: error Ideas? Yes that looks like it two partitions at least that is what I get from a quick Google search on the "boot0: error" that lead to this talking about the partitions needing to be set active an oldie but a goodie from the looks of it, putting your install as the only one on the drive is probably best if the solution offered there does not work. http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=22844 I have removed all the partitions on the drive except one now. Just the installed patched Leopard. I have reapplied chameleon a couple of times to see if that would help but nothing. Googling hasn't help either. Did not see this when replying to the other. It still gives the same error as above and how did you partition the drive ie. did you make sure to go into the options to select the GUID? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/144339-is-a-hackintosh-hard-to-maintain/#findComment-1025779 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuppy Posted January 4, 2009 Author Share Posted January 4, 2009 Hi there. I have scrubbed the drive completely. Set it up in GUID with one partition HFS+ Am just in the process of reinstalling the OS and trying again. I had tried the active setting of the partition before you had replied. No luck Do you have any ideas if it fails again? Many thanks. Edit : I had the drive as GUID beforehand as well so its not that that was the problem Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/144339-is-a-hackintosh-hard-to-maintain/#findComment-1025796 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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