Then there were none. Posted December 27, 2008 Share Posted December 27, 2008 I have 2 deals to go with at the moment, for a nice desktop mac. I could buy a 17" iMac G5 1.8ghz g5 processor 1GB ram 80GB Hard drive or... A 1.6ghz powermac G5 1.25GB ram 160GB HD 19" Monitor The powermac is £300 The iMac is £250 Which one should i choose? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/143136-which-deal-to-go-with/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synaesthesia Posted December 27, 2008 Share Posted December 27, 2008 I would lean towards the Powermac G5 since it is much more upgradeable. Very easy to upgrade the Hard drives, you can put in lots of RAM, even upgrade the Video card. The iMac is a nice computer though, but the Powermac looks better to me. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/143136-which-deal-to-go-with/#findComment-1015666 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Then there were none. Posted December 27, 2008 Author Share Posted December 27, 2008 Yeah i felt the same, im just waiting for the seller to get back to me Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/143136-which-deal-to-go-with/#findComment-1015671 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nesman Posted December 27, 2008 Share Posted December 27, 2008 Don't go for the iMac G5 series...it was a horrible choice for me..I bought one 17 inch back in August 2005 and had 3 year warranty with it. Totaled out to be 1,500 for everything. It was a very good computer and very reliable until this month. Whenever I turn on my iMac G5 the display won't boot up due to the fact the logic board is messed up. I went to an apple retail store and they said they can't do anything to it unless you want to spend 900 dollars to fix up the logic board. I was very furious because I was not the only one who had this problem...yet almost all the iMac G5's had this problem which should have been dealt with a recall from Apple. Mad as I was I decided to build a Hackintosh because I don't believe in paying another 1000+ for a computer that MIGHT last for 3 years... Bottom Line: Go for the Power Mac..a lot more customizable. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/143136-which-deal-to-go-with/#findComment-1015973 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaaseyRacer Posted December 27, 2008 Share Posted December 27, 2008 Don't go for the iMac G5 series...it was a horrible choice for me..I bought one 17 inch back in August 2005 and had 3 year warranty with it. Totaled out to be 1,500 for everything. It was a very good computer and very reliable until this month. Whenever I turn on my iMac G5 the display won't boot up due to the fact the logic board is messed up. I went to an apple retail store and they said they can't do anything to it unless you want to spend 900 dollars to fix up the logic board. I was very furious because I was not the only one who had this problem...yet almost all the iMac G5's had this problem which should have been dealt with a recall from Apple. Mad as I was I decided to build a Hackintosh because I don't believe in paying another 1000+ for a computer that MIGHT last for 3 years...Bottom Line: Go for the Power Mac..a lot more customizable. Your reaction makes no sense. Yes the iMac G5s had some logic board issues, but you had no problems for it for as long as Apple's warranty lasted. After that it failed, so instead of accepting that the computer had run the corse of its life you are mad at Apple. I have paid $100 bucks for a motherboard that died a year after I bought it, I have also bought boards that have lasted over five years that I have thrown out before they have gone bad. Sometimes it is the luck of the draw. Also the iMac G5s were interesting as some of those iMacs died repeatedly and often. Others keep on going, when I was consulting I had a client who had never taken her computer into the shop once, and another who got apple to give her a new one as her computer had been in the shop so many times. As far as what the topic starter should get. My vote is neither, save up, both of those machines are {censored} and over priced. I am curious to see how a 1.6GHz G5 stacks up to a dual core Intel Atom. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/143136-which-deal-to-go-with/#findComment-1016218 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Then there were none. Posted December 27, 2008 Author Share Posted December 27, 2008 At the moment it doesn't look like i will be buying either, the Powermac G5 seller has neglected to reply to my emails and I dont really want an All-in-One. Personally i would like to have another intel mac, but There are no good priced deals even on mac minis! Hell I would buy a Core Solo mac mini but they're completely absent from eBay and other websites. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/143136-which-deal-to-go-with/#findComment-1016225 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Then there were none. Posted December 27, 2008 Author Share Posted December 27, 2008 At the moment it doesn't look like i will be buying either, the Powermac G5 seller has neglected to reply to my emails and I dont really want an All-in-One. Personally i would like to have another intel mac, but There are no good priced deals even on mac minis! Hell I would buy a Core Solo mac mini but they're completely absent from eBay and other websites. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/143136-which-deal-to-go-with/#findComment-1016226 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nesman Posted December 27, 2008 Share Posted December 27, 2008 Your reaction makes no sense. Yes the iMac G5s had some logic board issues, but you had no problems for it for as long as Apple's warranty lasted. After that it failed, so instead of accepting that the computer had run the corse of its life you are mad at Apple. I have paid $100 bucks for a motherboard that died a year after I bought it, I have also bought boards that have lasted over five years that I have thrown out before they have gone bad. Sometimes it is the luck of the draw. Also the iMac G5s were interesting as some of those iMacs died repeatedly and often. Others keep on going, when I was consulting I had a client who had never taken her computer into the shop once, and another who got apple to give her a new one as her computer had been in the shop so many times. As far as what the topic starter should get. My vote is neither, save up, both of those machines are {censored} and over priced. I am curious to see how a 1.6GHz G5 stacks up to a dual core Intel Atom. My point is- The iMac G5's were known to fail due to the fact the logic boards were faulty- why can't they issue a recall since it was clearly a design fault that apple created. I spent so much money for a computer which would last only 3 years and months after the warranty ends- it dies, of course I would be angry. My old Dell is still lasting and it's been around for almost 6 years. I've had a similar problem with Canon were my camera's display broke. It has been over 4 years since I bought the camera and it was pretty expensive, however unlike Apple, Canon issued a recall for anyone who had the problem regardless of when they purchased it or if they had warranties. I had great customer support and recieved my camera fixed- and they even took the dents out. Why should we be subjected to buying logic boards knowning it will break or not break based on luck? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/143136-which-deal-to-go-with/#findComment-1016366 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaaseyRacer Posted December 27, 2008 Share Posted December 27, 2008 Uh, there was a recall of sorts. Well it was a extension of the logic board warranty. It lasted for three years after the date of purchase. Computers are common commodities now and you should be replacing it every three years or so anyways. Those who got logic board replacements usually had their problem solved. The issue was not Apple in this circumstance, the issue was their suppliers who kept telling them that they had the problem resolved. It now is since the last G5 iMacs. Your computer lasted for 3 years Apple offered an extension to the warranty, you took it. You got your full three years worth. It died, time to re up in the Apple game. It is nothing to cry over, it is just how they do business. Besides the new operating system that comes out in a couple months will not work on your old iMac regardless. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/143136-which-deal-to-go-with/#findComment-1016477 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synaesthesia Posted December 28, 2008 Share Posted December 28, 2008 I am curious to see how a 1.6GHz G5 stacks up to a dual core Intel Atom. An Atom is about half the speed of a Celeron. Even a Dual-core would be a little slower than a G5. Well, it is interesting...let us know. You should just wait until Macworld is over in January. If they announce new Mac models it would be the best time to buy. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/143136-which-deal-to-go-with/#findComment-1016513 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nesman Posted December 28, 2008 Share Posted December 28, 2008 Uh, there was a recall of sorts. Well it was a extension of the logic board warranty. It lasted for three years after the date of purchase. Computers are common commodities now and you should be replacing it every three years or so anyways. Those who got logic board replacements usually had their problem solved. The issue was not Apple in this circumstance, the issue was their suppliers who kept telling them that they had the problem resolved. It now is since the last G5 iMacs. Your computer lasted for 3 years Apple offered an extension to the warranty, you took it. You got your full three years worth. It died, time to re up in the Apple game. It is nothing to cry over, it is just how they do business. Besides the new operating system that comes out in a couple months will not work on your old iMac regardless. There wasn't a recall for the second generation iMacs [mine] and the third generation iMacs. The recall only applied to the first generation iMacs which had another problem regarding the logic board where the capacitors on the logic board would break and leak battery acids onto the logic board. The second generation iMacs and the third still had problems with the logic board in different ways...Who told me this? Why the Genius Bar at the Apple retailer.. By the way, who said I was crying- I'm just merely stating my opinions and facts on certain things. Lose the insults, they have nothing to do with the discussion. Also I'm sorry to Then there were.. I didn't mean for it to be a debate. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/143136-which-deal-to-go-with/#findComment-1016646 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Then there were none. Posted December 28, 2008 Author Share Posted December 28, 2008 Dont worry about it, its good to hear of a problem with the iMac g5 because i dont want to spend money on a broken computer. Im hoping a new Mac mini gets announced at macworld so that existing mac mini's get sold off at bargain prices on the refurb store, or more people sell up their old ones and buy a newer one. But you never know, if the new one is cheap enough I may just buy one. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/143136-which-deal-to-go-with/#findComment-1016872 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaap Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 You are asking this question on an OSx86 site- any chance you considered just building a Hackintosh? These days there are quite a few builds that will blow any G5 and even most Intel Macs away, and won't break the bank. And nesman is right to point out his experience- don't buy something off ebay with a known fatal defect. It is NOT unreasonable to expect a computer to last longer than 3 years, silly consumer-treadmill or not. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/143136-which-deal-to-go-with/#findComment-1019055 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vbetts Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 Well Zaap, no offense to you or anything, but what business is it yours with what he does with his money? This isn't just a site for osx86, more of a site dedicated to Os X. He didn't ask for opinions of anything else other than an Imac G5, or Power Mac G5. I say go for the Power Mac. Yes, you do get an all in one with the Imac, but the Imac is hardly anything impressive imo. A Power Mac you can change and upgrade easily. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/143136-which-deal-to-go-with/#findComment-1019154 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaap Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 Well Zaap, no offense to you or anything, but what business is it yours with what he does with his money? This isn't just a site for osx86, more of a site dedicated to Os X. He didn't ask for opinions of anything else other than an Imac G5, or Power Mac G5. Does everything have to turn into some kind of argument? It's not that it's my business what he does with his money, merely ASKING him a question if he's considered the alternative, and it's not any sort of crazy question considering this site IS heavily OSx86 oriented. I would think in merely poking around here he might have noticed and had some level of curiosity about it. Not a big deal either way, just an inquiry. Seems he's already ruled out either of the original choices, so it was just a question if he'd considered it, not anything to do with forcing his choice. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/143136-which-deal-to-go-with/#findComment-1019172 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSXtotheZ Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 This thread turned out to be a good read after all. Didn't expect all the drama and jabs at other posters but hope we can all laugh about it in the end. Zaap you make a very good argument in your defense. So cheers to you. Not that anyone cares but I recently benched my G5 dual 2ghz with 2gb of Ram and scored 88 vs a celeron 430 hack also with 2gb of ram. It scored 113 and cost about 250 to build Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/143136-which-deal-to-go-with/#findComment-1019455 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synaesthesia Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 Xbench A Dual G5 is still faster than a Celeron 430. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/143136-which-deal-to-go-with/#findComment-1019646 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaE-V Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 Xbench A Dual G5 is still faster than a Celeron 430. according to geekbench when i had my celeron based machine it was faster than a g5 dual at 2.2ghz Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/143136-which-deal-to-go-with/#findComment-1019868 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synaesthesia Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 Come now. It may be faster in single threaded tests but not faster than the DUAL G5. Anyway, I'm being pedantic here... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/143136-which-deal-to-go-with/#findComment-1020212 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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