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I would like to say that i thik i have a pretty good CPU, so why am i only getting 68 on my xbench scores? If the benchmark results are set to a baseline of a 2GHz G5 then surely i should be getting somewhere near this?

 

I am currently running 10.4.5 natively, using the prepatched iso.

 

the only other information that i think could be useful is that my CPU does not show up as SSE3 under the system profiler.

 

any help is greatly appreciated.

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123steamn
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I would like to say that i thik i have a pretty good CPU, so why am i only getting 68 on my xbench scores? If the benchmark results are set to a baseline of a 2GHz G5 then surely i should be getting somewhere near this?

 

I am currently running 10.4.5 natively, using the prepatched iso.

 

the only other information that i think could be useful is that my CPU does not show up as SSE3 under the system profiler.

 

any help is greatly appreciated.

 

To increase your Xbench score, you can try this, which should increase the "Quartz Graphic and User Interface" part of the Xbench test, which in turn, will increase the overall score.

 

Run "Quartz Debug" application, part of the developer's tools.

 

Note that the preferences file /Library/Preferences/com.apple.windowserver.plist doesn't exist until you run the Quartz Debug application.

 

Not convinced, check it before running "Quartz Debug"

 

Enable Quartz2D Extreme and turn off beam synchronization. Using "PlistEditPro" to do this, makes it easy.

 

Reboot and run Xbench.

 

If you have graphic artifacts after this change, just delete the preference file "com.apple.windowserver.plist" in /Library/Preferences and you're back where you began.

 

No problems on this end since the change, and my machine is snappier.

 

Only way to increase your cpu score is overclocking, if your cpu allows it. imo

 

kaos

KanadaKid
KanadaKid
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I have a bad habit of coming across as an ass sometimes.

 

I personally have no idea what the SS means, but it's not SSE3. I know the myzar install (which I also use) has broken SSE3, so I'm not sure if it can even tell if you have SSE3 capabilities or not.

ZeDz
ZeDz
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I'm in the same situation, my os x doesnt display SSE3, even though it's compatible with my Pentium D 830. I also used the myzar 10.4.4/10.4.5 installation dvd. Hmm.... And wats really strange is when I open up the About this Mac window, it sais my processor is 3.8 GHz when it is only 3.0 Ghz...

Toleman
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I would like to say that i thik i have a pretty good CPU, so why am i only getting 68 on my xbench scores? If the benchmark results are set to a baseline of a 2GHz G5 then surely i should be getting somewhere near this?

 

I am currently running 10.4.5 natively, using the prepatched iso.

 

the only other information that i think could be useful is that my CPU does not show up as SSE3 under the system profiler.

 

any help is greatly appreciated.

http://forum.osx86project.org/index.php?sh...c=10614&st=420# :P

 

cheers

MTRecords
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sorry if i was unclear, when i said my xbench score was 68, i meant that was only the CPU setion of xbench running, that is why i am concerned. i think it could be because the DVD i used emulates SSE3 but i could be very very wrong.

 

Please keep your posts comming, it seems i am not the only one with this problem., and as always your help is much appreciated.

 

ps. plusi want to have an exbech score above 100!!! lol

123steamn
123steamn
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sorry if i was unclear, when i said my xbench score was 68, i meant that was only the CPU setion of xbench running, that is why i am concerned. i think it could be because the DVD i used emulates SSE3 but i could be very very wrong.

 

Please keep your posts comming, it seems i am not the only one with this problem., and as always your help is much appreciated.

 

ps. plusi want to have an exbech score above 100!!! lol

 

 

To increase your Xbench score, you can try this, which should increase the "Quartz Graphic and User Interface" part of the Xbench test, which in turn, will increase the overall score.

 

Run "Quartz Debug" application, part of the developer's tools.

 

Note that the preferences file /Library/Preferences/com.apple.windowserver.plist doesn't exist until you run the Quartz Debug application.

 

Not convinced, check it before running "Quartz Debug"

 

Enable Quartz2D Extreme and turn off beam synchronization. Using "PlistEditPro" to do this, makes it easy.

 

Reboot and run Xbench.

 

If you have graphic artifacts after this change, just delete the preference file "com.apple.windowserver.plist" in /Library/Preferences and you're back where you began.

 

No problems on this end since the change, and my machine is snappier.

 

Only way to increase your cpu score is overclocking, if your cpu allows it. imo

 

There is no SSE3 emulation occuring, you need to patch your kernel if you want SSE3 to show up in system profiler.

 

 

kaos

Sam0r
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To increase your Xbench score, you can try this, which should increase the "Quartz Graphic and User Interface" part of the Xbench test, which in turn, will increase the overall score.

 

Run "Quartz Debug" application, part of the developer's tools.

 

Note that the preferences file /Library/Preferences/com.apple.windowserver.plist doesn't exist until you run the Quartz Debug application.

 

Not convinced, check it before running "Quartz Debug"

 

Enable Quartz2D Extreme and turn off beam synchronization. Using "PlistEditPro" to do this, makes it easy.

 

Reboot and run Xbench.

 

If you have graphic artifacts after this change, just delete the preference file "com.apple.windowserver.plist" in /Library/Preferences and you're back where you began.

 

No problems on this end since the change, and my machine is snappier.

 

Only way to increase your cpu score is overclocking, if your cpu allows it. imo

 

There is no SSE3 emulation occuring, you need to patch your kernel if you want SSE3 to show up in system profiler.

 

 

kaos

Are you thick? You quoted his post which said he was only running the CPU test, then you go telling him how to make his xbench score higher by screwing around with Quartz Extreme.

 

As he's only running the CPU tests, this won't do anything at all to his result.

 

Also, you posted that earlier in the thread.

 

There are two problems here, the first is that hes using the Myzar release, which installs the patched kernel with emulated SSE3, and secondly, he's using a celeron processor, which aren't all that good. But, he should be getting a higher score than that.

 

What he needs to do, is find out how to get his SSE3 seen by the kernel, I'm in the same boat as him on this, and I haven't been able to find any information on it.

nrvnqsr
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My Xbench CPU score is 62. I don't get SSE3 on my list either. System Profiler tells me its a single 3.8ghz CPU as well. Installed OSX with the Myzar Patched 10.4.4+10.4.5 DVD.

 

I figured the low score was because the G5 being used as the default benchmark had a dual-core 64bit CPU, as opposed to the Pentium D being a dual-core 32bit CPU.

 

There are two problems here, the first is that hes using the Myzar release, which installs the patched kernel with emulated SSE3, and secondly, he's using a celeron processor, which aren't all that good. But, he should be getting a higher score than that.

 

Damn, I was under the assumption that a Pentium D was essentially a dual-core Pentium 4...Or hopefully you're getting Pentium D mixed up with Celeron D.

declan
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If you installed with Myzar's DVD you do have SSE3, it just doesn't show, I just tested my Celeron D 3.2 and it scorded 72 on the CPU only test, so theirs definitely something a miss with yours, have you tinkered with the bios to see if there are any options that need to be disabled/enabled, i don't thing its a solution in OS X itself that would cause problems but more likely the bios.

 

P.S the 3.8ghz in system profiler is a bug.

nrvnqsr
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If you installed with Myzar's DVD you do have SSE3, it just doesn't show, I just tested my Celeron D 3.2 and it scorded 72 on the CPU only test, so theirs definitely something a miss with yours, have you tinkered with the bios to see if there are any options that need to be disabled/enabled, i don't thing its a solution in OS X itself that would cause problems but more likely the bios.

 

P.S the 3.8ghz in system profiler is a bug.

 

Good to know that the System Profiler errors are merely bugs.

 

I checked my bios, but everything seems fine to me. I'm not sure what to change. Since you and I have the same motherboard, would you mind comparing your settings with mine? Thanks.

 

Mine are as follows :

 

JumperFree Configuration : Auto

 

CPU Configuration

-MicroCode Updation : Enabled

-Max CPU ID Value Limit : Disabled

-Executable Disable Function : Disabled

-CPU Internal Thermal Control : Auto

-Virtualization Technology : Enabled (greyed out)

-Hyper Threading Technology : Enabled

 

Advanced Chipset Settings

-Configure DRAM Timing by SPD : Enabled

 

Power

-Suspend Mode : Auto

-Repost Video on S3 Resume : Disabled

-ACPI 2.0 Support : No

-ACPI APIC Support : Enabled

123steamn
123steamn
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sorry if i was unclear, when i said my xbench score was 68, i meant that was only the CPU setion of xbench running, that is why i am concerned. i think it could be because the DVD i used emulates SSE3 but i could be very very wrong.

 

Please keep your posts comming, it seems i am not the only one with this problem., and as always your help is much appreciated.

 

ps. plusi want to have an exbech score above 100!!! lol

 

It appears that most people with the higher Xbench scores are listing their overall score, not the individual cpu score.

 

Here are a few links to others that have similar hardware.

 

http://forum.osx86project.org/index.php?s=...indpost&p=78967

 

http://forum.osx86project.org/index.php?s=...indpost&p=82826

 

Their advice is what I have suggested to you previously.

 

Run the complete Xbench test.

 

Turn off bean synchronization, and enable QuartzExtreme2D.

 

Their is no SSE3 emulation if your cpu is capable of executing SSE3 instructions.

 

Hope this helps, kaos

123steamn
123steamn
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Are you thick? You quoted his post which said he was only running the CPU test, then you go telling him how to make his xbench score higher by screwing around with Quartz Extreme.

 

As he's only running the CPU tests, this won't do anything at all to his result.

 

Also, you posted that earlier in the thread.

 

There are two problems here, the first is that hes using the Myzar release, which installs the patched kernel with emulated SSE3, and secondly, he's using a celeron processor, which aren't all that good. But, he should be getting a higher score than that.

 

What he needs to do, is find out how to get his SSE3 seen by the kernel, I'm in the same boat as him on this, and I haven't been able to find any information on it.

 

The myzar kernel has multiple patches to cover as many hardware combinations as possible.

There is no emulation occuring, if your processor is capable of SSE3 execution.

If you get rid of all the patches, but the base-patch (v0.4), SSE3 will show up in system profiler.

Your cpu score is not going to improve.

I've tested many combinations from the myzar DVD.

Try maxxuss's site for information on getting rid of the extra patches.

 

kaos

 

P.S. Perhaps part of the problem can be found in the paragraph from this article:

 

In the past, noticeable performance gains have been achieved through the introduction of incrementally faster processors, but never before has the potential performance gain been as large as it is with dual core CPUs. Yet the potential can only be exploited with thread-optimized software - older, non-optimized programs will be executed only as fast as we are used to with current processors.

 

http://www.tomshardware.com/2005/04/05/the...m_d/page20.html

declan
declan
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Just to clarify the 72 i quoted was cpu benchmark only.

The only different settings i have compared to you are...

-Executable Disable Function : Enabled

-ACPI 2.0 Support : Yes

I do have Quartz 2D on and Beam sync off, but that will do squat for your CPU scores.

 

I also would say don't pay much attention to Xbench, its not the best benchmark to attain how your system really is performing..

 

I will explain at the moment my system performs great but office doesn't, rosetta, but i may have a higher score in xbench (cpu) than you but i bet your system runs better.

dumb4ever
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Hmm, even after turning those 2 options on in my bios, my score still didn't increase. Oh well, thanks anyways.

 

Hi all, this is my 2nd time installing OSXx86, i Installed OSX with the Myzar 10.4.4/10.4.5 DVD.

 

everything seem to be working fine, except that my system is lagging ( just a little -- but kindda anoying ) somehow, like in windows when you're running a lots of programs and try to open up a new one, it just stall.

 

I'm using Pentium D 920 with ECS 945-P ver 1.1 motherboard

1 Gb DDR2 RAM PC 4200

X800 PCIe video card and installed natively on my hard drive ( I unplug the Windows Hard Drive )

 

 

 

I search around but found nothing about "lag" or "laggin" or "slow system", etc

I check my Video driver and looks like it's working out of the box when i first install from the DVD few hours ago.

 

 

Thank You, hopefully somebody can help.

nathansvt
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I've got a 2.6GHZ Celeron D (single core). I used the myzar install and unchecked the AMD extensions at install time. The system seems pretty quick in the finder and safari. However, my first Xbench result showed a CPU score of 6.0 (that's six. not sixty, but six-point-oh). Subsequent tests have gone as high as the low 30s. Still, this is WAY below where it should be. I can't play back even a 640x480 MPEG movie. the movie plays as a slideshow, 1 frame every 2-3 seconds. So something is messed up. Tonight I'm going to try re-applying "the solution". Any other ideas?

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