thefighter Posted May 2, 2006 Author Share Posted May 2, 2006 This is my theory now....It is purely physical. When loading the JaS 10.4.6 cd in -v mode I noticed no IOATA Blocking Bus. The minute I did the same thing with the Myzar 10.4.4 patched to 10.4.5 disk, I saw IOATA error's appearing. CD seen only - No error CD and HD seen - Error I then checked in my boot menu, and it reads something like this: Hard Drive - 1st SATA-M CDROM -1st Master The CD is on the Master could this cause conflictions? After moving into my BIOS I see on the first page, a list of devices and what they are connected to: Primary IDE Master - CD Primary IDE Slave Secondary IDE Master Secondary IDE Slave First SATA Master - HD Second SATA Master THird SATA Master Fourth SATA Master HDD SMART Monitoring - Disabled I start to search through the BIOS to find anything else of interest and find under Advanced, Onboard Device Configuration, IDE Function Setup...Another list with everything Enabled Onchip IDE Channel 0 Onchip IDE Channel 1 IDE DMA Transfer Access SATA Port 1, 2 SATA DMA Transfer SATA Port 3, 4 SATA2 DMA Transfer IDE Prefetch Mode None of this really makes much sense to me, but I guess that the last item on this list might cause a few problems. Anybody else smarter than me can figure out if this is a physical or BIOS problem that most of us are having? Lol, it would also help if my BIOS was not S**T! lol Also, whilst finding this thread, I saw this thread http://forum.osx86project.org/index.php?showtopic=16139 which mentions how SSE3 on his AMD chip is not seen. Neither is mine when I boot -v from the CD. That might have something to do with it? Duno. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/13219-nforce-sata-workaround/page/4/#findComment-106541 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefighter Posted May 5, 2006 Author Share Posted May 5, 2006 Dead topic??? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/13219-nforce-sata-workaround/page/4/#findComment-108091 Share on other sites More sharing options...
two2deep Posted May 5, 2006 Share Posted May 5, 2006 Dead topic??? Well, I gave up..I tried everything and now I moved on to Vista. At least it works. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/13219-nforce-sata-workaround/page/4/#findComment-108138 Share on other sites More sharing options...
macgirl Posted May 6, 2006 Share Posted May 6, 2006 thank you, beautiful =) Hey Careless, which patches did you apply to mach_kernel, I just swaped to an Opteron 165 and now I can't boot in Native Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/13219-nforce-sata-workaround/page/4/#findComment-108402 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gdfath3r Posted May 6, 2006 Share Posted May 6, 2006 Hey Careless, which patches did you apply to mach_kernel, I just swaped to an Opteron 165 and now I can't boot in Native I have opteron 170 and is working only in SSE2 mode, to work in SSE3 mode it needs to be "fixed" the SSE3 kernel Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/13219-nforce-sata-workaround/page/4/#findComment-108415 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefighter Posted May 6, 2006 Author Share Posted May 6, 2006 Gdfath3r, how do you do that? It might help me fix how to see SSE3 working on my AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800. At the moment I cannot see it, and I do think it is having an effect on me booting mac. Because I looked up in the Wiki that the blue screen/login window crash is due to Rosetta, which if I remember rightly needs SSE3. http://forum.osx86project.org/index.php?sh...92entry108492 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/13219-nforce-sata-workaround/page/4/#findComment-108494 Share on other sites More sharing options...
myzar Posted May 6, 2006 Share Posted May 6, 2006 Hey Careless, which patches did you apply to mach_kernel, I just swaped to an Opteron 165 and now I can't boot in Native it prolly needs the cpuid patch and so the sse2 patch too basically you need base + cpuid + amd enabler + sse2 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/13219-nforce-sata-workaround/page/4/#findComment-108520 Share on other sites More sharing options...
macgirl Posted May 6, 2006 Share Posted May 6, 2006 it prolly needs the cpuid patch and so the sse2 patch too basically you need base + cpuid + amd enabler + sse2 Ok, Thanks, So right now there is no advantage to have the opteron with SSE3 than the 3500+ with SSE2? What troubles me is that I use a non SSE2 patched kernel on VMWare, so that's weird. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/13219-nforce-sata-workaround/page/4/#findComment-108645 Share on other sites More sharing options...
myzar Posted May 6, 2006 Share Posted May 6, 2006 Ok, Thanks, So right now there is no advantage to have the opteron with SSE3 than the 3500+ with SSE2? What troubles me is that I use a non SSE2 patched kernel on VMWare, so that's weird. the kernel with the cpuid applied has the sse3 flag hidden but you can't actually disable a cpu microcode so an app using sse3 instructions will still use native sse3 instructions the emu stuff will not be called but an app explicitly checking for the sse3 flag will fail so the need to have the sse3 emu kernel. This happens during the early boot stage where there's a sse3 flag check not removed yet Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/13219-nforce-sata-workaround/page/4/#findComment-108650 Share on other sites More sharing options...
macgirl Posted May 6, 2006 Share Posted May 6, 2006 Thanks, myzar, very explanatory. So I need to reinstall, because if I use the kernel that I used witn my 3500+ I got the same panic. If I install from the 10.4.6 DVD do I need to select the AMD-SSE2 pack? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/13219-nforce-sata-workaround/page/4/#findComment-108700 Share on other sites More sharing options...
myzar Posted May 6, 2006 Share Posted May 6, 2006 Thanks, myzar, very explanatory. So I need to reinstall, because if I use the kernel that I used witn my 3500+ I got the same panic. If I install from the 10.4.6 DVD do I need to select the AMD-SSE2 pack? i guess you are talking about Jas dvd , i'm not 100% sure what patches he added to the sse2 kernel but i guess that's the right choice, keep in mind that if you use Jas disk on amd the permission will be seriously screwed and diskutil refuses to fix them because i guess it has wrong permissions itself. It doesn't seem to have a big impact because osx will still run but i dunno what problem can arise. About reinstalling you can avoid that booting from the dvd and swapping the kernel on the hd unless i've misunderstood the problem Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/13219-nforce-sata-workaround/page/4/#findComment-108727 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EtherealRemnant Posted May 6, 2006 Share Posted May 6, 2006 Umm... I found a workaround for fixing perms on AMD in terminal type sudo diskutility repairpermissions / It fixes the perms on everything. And trust me, there's going to be quite the list of fixes. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/13219-nforce-sata-workaround/page/4/#findComment-108768 Share on other sites More sharing options...
macgirl Posted May 6, 2006 Share Posted May 6, 2006 i guess you are talking about Jas dvd , i'm not 100% sure what patches he added to the sse2 kernel but i guess that's the right choice, keep in mind that if you use Jas disk on amd the permission will be seriously screwed and diskutil refuses to fix them because i guess it has wrong permissions itself. It doesn't seem to have a big impact because osx will still run but i dunno what problem can arise. About reinstalling you can avoid that booting from the dvd and swapping the kernel on the hd unless i've misunderstood the problem Believe it or not I just "upgrade" with the Jas 10.4.6 DVD with AMD-SSE2 (and 10.4.6 updates) and now it boots, the only thing now I can't get is graphic boot (the grey Apple) only if I type something in the boot options it boots without that it hangs but no Panic or Error appears. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/13219-nforce-sata-workaround/page/4/#findComment-108771 Share on other sites More sharing options...
myzar Posted May 7, 2006 Share Posted May 7, 2006 Believe it or not I just "upgrade" with the Jas 10.4.6 DVD with AMD-SSE2 (and 10.4.6 updates) and now it boots, the only thing now I can't get is graphic boot (the grey Apple) only if I type something in the boot options it boots without that it hangs but no Panic or Error appears. well i said that it works but there are many files with wrong permissions try running diskutil -> repair permissions, after all Jas disk is using my 10.4.5 as base + semjza and + mine amd 10.4.6 cracked files, the only problem is that he doesn't run the repair permission script when the amd branch is installed Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/13219-nforce-sata-workaround/page/4/#findComment-108868 Share on other sites More sharing options...
initbash Posted May 7, 2006 Share Posted May 7, 2006 After a month of discussion, what are the conclusion ? Is it possible to install directly on sata drive with nforce4 ? It will currupt my drive ??? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/13219-nforce-sata-workaround/page/4/#findComment-108911 Share on other sites More sharing options...
macgirl Posted May 7, 2006 Share Posted May 7, 2006 well i said that it works but there are many files with wrong permissions try running diskutil -> repair permissions, after all Jas disk is using my 10.4.5 as base + semjza and + mine amd 10.4.6 cracked files, the only problem is that he doesn't run the repair permission script when the amd branch is installed Ok, I'll do it. Also I'm testing some overclock settings, this new proc is awesome, shame that Mac OS doesnt work on the double core well. Edit: I did RepairPermissions and after a few reboots it worked. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/13219-nforce-sata-workaround/page/4/#findComment-108923 Share on other sites More sharing options...
macprodan Posted May 7, 2006 Share Posted May 7, 2006 Dual Core A64's are the Dogs aint they. never go single core ever again. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/13219-nforce-sata-workaround/page/4/#findComment-109063 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefighter Posted May 10, 2006 Author Share Posted May 10, 2006 Look's like this thread could do with another summary... lol Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/13219-nforce-sata-workaround/page/4/#findComment-110865 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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