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Well i want an intel mac because of the great design they can run windows now, and osx looks amazing.

but which mac should i get, i want a mac that is fairly portable can do for light gaming WoW, Windows games, PSO, and also, is fairly portable, and cheap.

Now i also want a HDTV, but then that narrows me away from the macbook pro, if i choose the hdtv.

at the moment the prospects are:
Macbook- but i want to play games :(
Imac- but it isnt that portable.
Macbook Pro- but i couldnt get a hdtv.

by the way i am from the uk.

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Buy a macbook, with a extra external HDTV tuner.

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the problem is if i buy the macbook, it isnt really that good for light gaming is it, can anyone comment on the macbooks gaming possibilitites?

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Well i want an intel mac because of the great design they can run windows now, and osx looks amazing.

but which mac should i get, i want a mac that is fairly portable can do for light gaming WoW, Windows games, PSO, and also, is fairly portable, and cheap.

Now i also want a HDTV, but then that narrows me away from the macbook pro, if i choose the hdtv.

at the moment the prospects are:
Macbook- but i want to play games :(
Imac- but it isnt that portable.
Macbook Pro- but i couldnt get a hdtv.

by the way i am from the uk.


1. If you want to play games, buy a console. There's no reason to buy any computer system for gaming when you can accomplish the same thing with an XBox 360 (and XBoxes will be cutting edge for longer than the gaming rig anyway) and most computer games are released for either an XBox or PlayStation anyway. So why spend the extra money for a gaming rig?

2. You don't NEED to run Windows on a Mac. There is usually a good Mac version (or outright replacement) for any PC application you would likely need.

3. Intel Integrated graphics aren't nearly as evil as everyone says they are. You can play games on it, just don't expect killer performance from it. Considering you're doing "light gaming" there is no reason in hell to invest extra money for a dedicated graphics card that will only be used while gaming.

So go for the MacBook not pro.

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well for the macbook i will get it will cost me: £1009
The imac: £1250 aprox
The hdtv: £500

so if i got the macbook is there a noticiable screen size difference, like how the ibook 12" looked minescule?

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my suggestion is that u must go for a MacBook Pro coz it is a heavyweight machine as compared to the macbook, which is restricted only to some simple graphics apps..
but it costs more money anywayz and in longer run it will give better returns coz it has a decent Graphics Card..
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my suggestion is that u must go for a MacBook Pro coz it is a heavyweight machine as compared to the macbook, which is restricted only to some simple graphics apps..
but it costs more money anywayz and in longer run it will give better returns coz it has a decent Graphics Card..
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That is absolutely false. The Macbook will handle most of what you throw at it. Imaging (2d) apps dont even make much use of the GFX card, and pass instructions to the processor. And the Core Duo is a CPU which can handle all Adobe products, as well as pretty much all video editing software. When doing 3D work, things are a little different. The GMA900 and 950 are buil to work in unison with their appropriate chipsets and processors. So the speed of the chip will be heavily impacted by the peed of the CPU. That said, the laptop would have a little harder time doing 3D imaging when relying on the GMA. It, however, is smart enough to let the processor step in and work extra to do it's job. Conclusion: you will still be able to use 3D imaging programs and 3D layout applications. Light gaming will also not be an issue. The worse that would happen would be the games would have to be played at a lower resolutions, or with less details like drop-shadows. But for the games you want to use it for that won't be an issue at all. My GMA900 laptop has been used for the entire GTA series, the Sims games, and I have never encountered any problems. I never even had to change any settings related to the performance of the game. All I had to worry about was the gameplay. And again, i use autocad without any hicouphs.

That said, you should have no problems with the macbook performance wise or spec wise. Also, it has an amazing battery life. The Macbook pro is therefor crossed out.

Now the thing to look at is the size. Honestly, the 13.3 inch widescreen is a lot bigger than most people think it is. It cannot be compared to the 12 inchers of the last generation of G4 notebooks. It is a lot bigger, but still extremely compact. To get an idea of how big the screen really seems, i have noticed it to be on-par with the 14-inch iBook. It really isn't far from the 15" widescreens, and the high resolution of 1280 x 800 makes it a joy to look at. In fact, this resolution (the same as my big 15" laptop!) really means you have a workspace much larger than you would think. I really don't think the screen size is an issue, and the graphics card is good enough for everything but super-high end gaming.

So do yourself a favor and go for the macbook. Just make sure to get at least 1 GB of ram. That way, not only will the whole system feel a lot faster, but the GMA will be a lot happier with the system memory.

ONE WARNING: I recommend you get 2 gigs of ram. Or 1.5, whichever you can afford, really. This is for a simple reson: the GMA will be much, much, much faster when it has one stick for itself. Otherwise, you system will bottleneck because both VRAM and system RAM are going to the same place, and this is too much for the system to handle. The reason why you should get at least 1.5 gigs is because it's a lot easier to simply get the ram at purchase. Otherwise, you'll likely run into RAM that you won't have a computer for. Basically, DO NOT GET ONE STICK OF 1GB. Your system will hate it, and you'll kick yourself for it later.

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That is absolutely false. The Macbook will handle most of what you throw at it. Imaging (2d) apps dont even make much use of the GFX card, and pass instructions to the processor. And the Core Duo is a CPU which can handle all Adobe products, as well as pretty much all video editing software. When doing 3D work, things are a little different. The GMA900 and 950 are buil to work in unison with their appropriate chipsets and processors. So the speed of the chip will be heavily impacted by the peed of the CPU. That said, the laptop would have a little harder time doing 3D imaging when relying on the GMA. It, however, is smart enough to let the processor step in and work extra to do it's job. Conclusion: you will still be able to use 3D imaging programs and 3D layout applications. Light gaming will also not be an issue. The worse that would happen would be the games would have to be played at a lower resolutions, or with less details like drop-shadows. But for the games you want to use it for that won't be an issue at all. My GMA900 laptop has been used for the entire GTA series, the Sims games, and I have never encountered any problems. I never even had to change any settings related to the performance of the game. All I had to worry about was the gameplay. And again, i use autocad without any hicouphs.

That said, you should have no problems with the macbook performance wise or spec wise. Also, it has an amazing battery life. The Macbook pro is therefor crossed out.

Now the thing to look at is the size. Honestly, the 13.3 inch widescreen is a lot bigger than most people think it is. It cannot be compared to the 12 inchers of the last generation of G4 notebooks. It is a lot bigger, but still extremely compact. To get an idea of how big the screen really seems, i have noticed it to be on-par with the 14-inch iBook. It really isn't far from the 15" widescreens, and the high resolution of 1280 x 800 makes it a joy to look at. In fact, this resolution (the same as my big 15" laptop!) really means you have a workspace much larger than you would think. I really don't think the screen size is an issue, and the graphics card is good enough for everything but super-high end gaming.

So do yourself a favor and go for the macbook. Just make sure to get at least 1 GB of ram. That way, not only will the whole system feel a lot faster, but the GMA will be a lot happier with the system memory.

ONE WARNING: I recommend you get 2 gigs of ram. Or 1.5, whichever you can afford, really. This is for a simple reson: the GMA will be much, much, much faster when it has one stick for itself. Otherwise, you system will bottleneck because both VRAM and system RAM are going to the same place, and this is too much for the system to handle. The reason why you should get at least 1.5 gigs is because it's a lot easier to simply get the ram at purchase. Otherwise, you'll likely run into RAM that you won't have a computer for. Basically, DO NOT GET ONE STICK OF 1GB. Your system will hate it, and you'll kick yourself for it later.

-Urby


Dont take this one offensive, but still making a decision of purchasing such expensive Intelli -Mac should not be wasted with other Operating System releases like Windows Vista...
U dont want to be missing the new Aero and the Win+Tab feature of Windows Vista..
And even as specified that the system must also be capable of playing Games that r bit heavier in requirements, a simple MacBook is not the one u can expect a high and a longer run advantage from...
And with no other option in this context except for a MacBook Pro makes it ideal to solve the purpose..
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well im waiting till xmas to buy a mbp, later revision, no annoyances, but i hvae a choice now either to buy a nintendo ds lite, or a ppc mac/ibook/imac, g4/g3 which one should i go for?

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well im waiting till xmas to buy a mbp, later revision, no annoyances, but i hvae a choice now either to buy a nintendo ds lite, or a ppc mac/ibook/imac, g4/g3 which one should i go for?


u must go for the one which best suits ur needs and ur current budget isnt...
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i think its bettre to buy the imac, but that depends on if i get an
xbox 360

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man, everything is simple.
if you need a best portable book for working - macbook
13" widescreen have a good resolution (1280 x 800) VS old 12" iBook - it was only 1024*768 (not so good).
and it ready for any work! and for the hard graphics work too (not gaming!)
MBP is really for PRO. who need hard work with video. it's really stupid buy MBP for gaming! as A Nonny Moose said - buy console for gaming!

but as i see - you don't need portable. you need smthng for home. (if iMac is a listed)
and iMac is your choice. and it's good for games, bigger screen, good look .. ... etc.. etc..

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What people don't see is that there is a difference between console gaming and computer gaming... Some computer games just dont work on a console. Any RTS game (Warcraft / Starcraft / C and C) are just too hard to play with a controler(if you dont believe me try to play starcraft 64). Even FPS have some differences in terms of modding. Microsoft, Nintendo and Sony make it hard as hell to make homebrew games... let alone mods of retail games. There are many reasons people use computers for gaming over consoles.

If you are one of these people who would choose computer gaming over console gaming then you will either want to go for the iMac or the MacBook Pro. I would also go with the iMac if you really dont need a laptop... just something for lan parties... It is more portable then what most people bring to a lan party.





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