macprodan Posted May 22, 2006 Share Posted May 22, 2006 PPC are better than intel !!! I Guess Steve Jobs and Everyone at Apple must be Stupid and Switched to a Less Powerful CPU. How do you come to the conclusion that Motorola's PPC Chips are better than Intels. any Facts you can back that statment up with. They are not better, Guess ill have a Stab and just make a statment without backing it up either. AMD's are Better than Both.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ouch Posted May 22, 2006 Share Posted May 22, 2006 There was an interesting article on the register about how apple was working with a start-up company to manufacturer power compatible chips to replace the motorola/ibm chips. Apparently the CEO thought he had the deal in the bag but was amazed when apple announced they were going with intel. Full Story: http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2006/05/19/pasemi_apple/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badg2k Posted May 22, 2006 Share Posted May 22, 2006 Dont get a mac. My experiences with there tech support and relations have been horrible. My machine is a week 10 MBP and has the most annoying whining sound. Had it repaired once. They replaced teh inverter. machine came back and teh sound was still there. Sent it in a second time, and this they said the machine was within spec. Came back, still had the most annoying sound. I am getting the run around about logic boards and normal specifications, and was spoken very rudely to. They seem to be adamantly denying any reports of logic board revisions. I call them last week, and both levels of tech support said it was most likely due to a logic board issue, but today, every single technician or specialist I've talked to is heavily denying logic board problems. I feel the 5/20 day did more trouble than help. I don't know what to do anymore. I'm sending it in a third time, hopefully there spiffy little sound detectors can indicate there is a noise issue. "within specs"-- Whoever coined the phrase deserves to be shot. Any sound which gives me a headache should not be within specs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluedragon1971 Posted May 22, 2006 Share Posted May 22, 2006 There was an interesting article on the register about how apple was working with a start-up company to manufacturer power compatible chips to replace the motorola/ibm chips. Apparently the CEO thought he had the deal in the bag but was amazed when apple announced they were going with intel. Full Story: http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2006/05/19/pasemi_apple/ From that article, it sounds like the company simply wouldn't have had the processors ready when Apple would have wanted them. They won't even have dual core 2.0 Ghz chips ready for sampling until later this year! PA Semi's first processor - the PA6T-1682M - is due to sample in the third quarter of 2006 as a 2GHz, dual-core product with two DDR2 memory controllers, 2MB of L2 cache, and support for eight PCI Express. The product will ship in volume next year and be followed by single-core and quad-core chips. Doesn't sound much better than IBM to me. Long on promises, short on product. @ badg2k: While your experience may have been less than stellar, Apple's tech support pretty consistantly ranks at the top of the industry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgrimes80 Posted May 22, 2006 Share Posted May 22, 2006 Dont get a mac. My experiences with there tech support and relations have been horrible. My machine is a week 10 MBP and has the most annoying whining sound. Had it repaired once. They replaced teh inverter. machine came back and teh sound was still there. Sent it in a second time, and this they said the machine was within spec. Came back, still had the most annoying sound. I am getting the run around about logic boards and normal specifications, and was spoken very rudely to. They seem to be adamantly denying any reports of logic board revisions. I call them last week, and both levels of tech support said it was most likely due to a logic board issue, but today, every single technician or specialist I've talked to is heavily denying logic board problems. I feel the 5/20 day did more trouble than help. I don't know what to do anymore. I'm sending it in a third time, hopefully there spiffy little sound detectors can indicate there is a noise issue. "within specs"-- Whoever coined the phrase deserves to be shot. Any sound which gives me a headache should not be within specs. If you bought a brand new first-run MBP like me, guess what? We are essentially the BETA testers, but the "whine" you refer to shouldn't ever be a problem on a performance laptop so I'm going have to suggest that you get used to it, excessive heat would be something to complain about in a laptop though. I've been buying Mac's for quite some time; I wouldn't based your opinion on this Apple experience. Your bad experience might have something to do with asking for a fix where there isn't an Apple problem... if Apple says 100 degree Celsius is fine, then guess what? it's fine... they're liable anyways... if Apple says the noise is normal, then guess what? the noise is normal. You don't complain about Lotus having louder engine noise than a Honda... so don't spout about the money you spent, you got what you paid for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_5 Posted May 22, 2006 Share Posted May 22, 2006 PPC are better than intel !!! I Guess Steve Jobs and Everyone at Apple must be Stupid and Switched to a Less Powerful CPU. How do you come to the conclusion that Motorola's PPC Chips are better than Intels. any Facts you can back that statment up with. They are not better, Guess ill have a Stab and just make a statment without backing it up either. AMD's are Better than Both.. simply because they run the software faster, motorola chips are in these lol but the chips in these are ibm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Nonny Moose Posted May 22, 2006 Share Posted May 22, 2006 PPC are better than intel !!! I Guess Steve Jobs and Everyone at Apple must be Stupid and Switched to a Less Powerful CPU. How do you come to the conclusion that Motorola's PPC Chips are better than Intels. any Facts you can back that statment up with. They are not better, Guess ill have a Stab and just make a statment without backing it up either. AMD's are Better than Both.. Well, I don't see any Speedmark scores from AMD processors, but Macworld's Speedmark scores show the corrent crop of PowerMac G5's (IBM, not Moto) outperforming every other system. Go PPC! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badg2k Posted May 22, 2006 Share Posted May 22, 2006 If you bought a brand new first-run MBP like me, guess what? We are essentially the BETA testers, but the "whine" you refer to shouldn't ever be a problem on a performance laptop so I'm going have to suggest that you get used to it, excessive heat would be something to complain about in a laptop though. I've been buying Mac's for quite some time; I wouldn't based your opinion on this Apple experience. Your bad experience might have something to do with asking for a fix where there isn't an Apple problem... if Apple says 100 degree Celsius is fine, then guess what? it's fine... they're liable anyways... if Apple says the noise is normal, then guess what? the noise is normal. You don't complain about Lotus having louder engine noise than a Honda... so don't spout about the money you spent, you got what you paid for. There was excessive heat, and the noise is not from performance like it would be from a Lotus. Whenever the processor works harder it gets softer. This is bad engineering, and they shouldnt have released the product this early. Apple should fix the early mbp's and stop denying the problems by reducing the tolerance on specifications. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
non sequitur Posted May 22, 2006 Share Posted May 22, 2006 my macbook pro has the whine. i sent it in for repairs and should ghet it back firday. i absolutely love it, and i will probably keep on buying macs. they just work, and you dont have to install anti spyware programs and you dont have to know the terminal like the back of your hand. it is what a computer should do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac sussed Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 Sorry, this application has unexpectedly quit. The death star was powered by G5 processors and we all know what happened to that. Before you get on your high horse, THIS IS HUMOUR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluedragon1971 Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 simply because they run the software faster, motorola chips are in these lol but the chips in these are ibm Not completely accurate. Yes, Motorola made all of the chips (the 68000 series) in the classic Macs, but the chips in PowerPC Macs were a collaberation between Apple, IBM, and Motorola. Up until the G3, IBM and Motorola both manufactured the chips. The G4 was almost exclusively made by Motorola (now Freescale), and the G5 was exclusively made by IBM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedreampolice Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 I am also a "pro" editor see my work at http://www.chrisscheidies.com at work I use premiere pro 2, after effects 7. I use only macs and final cut at home, I wish I could use final cut at work *sigh*. Both premiere and final cut are amazing awesome systems and if you cant work in one than you dont know what you are doing. We have amazing technology any more but that does not make up for talent. That being said why do I use macs at home? Well I like them better but that big thing is core audio, I do alot of pro audio work and nothing on the windows side is as good, ASIO is close but not quite. Macs just seem more fun, so get one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgreer00 Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 there is obviously something brilliant about editing video on Macs, since virtually everyone at NYU film school (the best film school in the world) uses a Mac and either FCP or Avid to edit their films. Of course, what do people like Soderbergh and Ang Lee know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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