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Here's the latest from AppleInsider.com

A recently reliable third party claims that Apple plans to launch some NVIDIA-based iMacs at Macworld -- including a possible 28-inch model -- and that Intel's new Core i7 platform may play a greater role in the Mac maker's lineup than expected.


Ryan Shrout of PC Perspective claims to have heard that Apple will have "at least" four iMacs enroute this week that use the NVIDIA MCP79 (GeForce 9400M) chipset that Apple itself has inadvertently confirmed through its own system files referencing unreleased versions of the desktops.

Two of these will reportedly be 20-inch models, with a higher-end version carrying the same GeForce 9600M as for the 15-inch MacBook Pro. Two 24-inch versions are also said scheduled and would use the 9600M in the base model while moving to the much faster 9800M in a top-end version.

Provocatively, however, Shrout also claims to have received word of a new, 28-inch version that would mark a radical break from its smaller counterparts.

Instead of using the 9400M as its foundation, the system would use Intel's X58 chipset and a processor using the Core i7 (previously codenamed Nehalem) architecture. As a result, it would not only include the four cores thought to be present in the upcoming Core 2-based iMac updates but would gain HyperThreading support that at times mimics the behavior of an eight-core system. NVIDIA at most would be used for dedicated graphics in the all-in-one computer.

Other systems are allegedly slated to get updates in the near future as well. Supporting both Apple's leak and others, Shrout believes some form of the MCP79 chipset is bound for the Mac mini but will be underclocked versus that in the MacBook and MacBook Pro, if faster than in the extremely thin MacBook Air.

He also believes Mac Pros will be upgraded to Core i7 architecture early this year; while claiming it will use a similar platform, the processor is more likely to be one of Intel's new Core i7-based Xeons than the consumer-grade parts. Even so, the similarity between the supersized iMac and the Mac Pro tower is described as small enough that the main difference will be the workstation's dedicated graphics, which Shrout hears will use some variant of NVIDIA's GT200 graphics card line.

Some of these systems may not necessarily ship to stores at or shortly after the start of Macworld Expo. The 28-inch iMac and the Mac Pro will supposedly be pushed back to February where the smaller iMacs and the Mac mini are more likely to ship quickly.

Whether or not this latest report is accurate is less than clear. Although he uses a suspected fake mockup of a Mac mini to illustrate one of his points, Shrout's insight was key to confirming NVIDIA-based MacBooks as early as the summer; the technology writer is now thought to have sources close to NVIDIA, which is now effectively Apple's premier partner for mainboards and graphics.

With Phil Schiller's opening keynote just two days away, and AppleInsider's own sources anticipating Mac minis in the near future, these latest claims should be tested soon.

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Woah that's one crazy rumor. And heres me thinking they would just stick with Core2Duo forever!

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Ummm Macworld already happened....and I doubt Apple would have 5 different iMac models

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Here's the latest from AppleInsider.com

A recently reliable third party claims that Apple plans to launch some NVIDIA-based iMacs at Macworld -- including a possible 28-inch model -- and that Intel's new Core i7 platform may play a greater role in the Mac maker's lineup than expected.


Ryan Shrout of PC Perspective claims to have heard that Apple will have "at least" four iMacs enroute this week that use the NVIDIA MCP79 (GeForce 9400M) chipset that Apple itself has inadvertently confirmed through its own system files referencing unreleased versions of the desktops.

Two of these will reportedly be 20-inch models, with a higher-end version carrying the same GeForce 9600M as for the 15-inch MacBook Pro. Two 24-inch versions are also said scheduled and would use the 9600M in the base model while moving to the much faster 9800M in a top-end version.

Provocatively, however, Shrout also claims to have received word of a new, 28-inch version that would mark a radical break from its smaller counterparts.

Instead of using the 9400M as its foundation, the system would use Intel's X58 chipset and a processor using the Core i7 (previously codenamed Nehalem) architecture. As a result, it would not only include the four cores thought to be present in the upcoming Core 2-based iMac updates but would gain HyperThreading support that at times mimics the behavior of an eight-core system. NVIDIA at most would be used for dedicated graphics in the all-in-one computer.

Other systems are allegedly slated to get updates in the near future as well. Supporting both Apple's leak and others, Shrout believes some form of the MCP79 chipset is bound for the Mac mini but will be underclocked versus that in the MacBook and MacBook Pro, if faster than in the extremely thin MacBook Air.

He also believes Mac Pros will be upgraded to Core i7 architecture early this year; while claiming it will use a similar platform, the processor is more likely to be one of Intel's new Core i7-based Xeons than the consumer-grade parts. Even so, the similarity between the supersized iMac and the Mac Pro tower is described as small enough that the main difference will be the workstation's dedicated graphics, which Shrout hears will use some variant of NVIDIA's GT200 graphics card line.

Some of these systems may not necessarily ship to stores at or shortly after the start of Macworld Expo. The 28-inch iMac and the Mac Pro will supposedly be pushed back to February where the smaller iMacs and the Mac mini are more likely to ship quickly.

Whether or not this latest report is accurate is less than clear. Although he uses a suspected fake mockup of a Mac mini to illustrate one of his points, Shrout's insight was key to confirming NVIDIA-based MacBooks as early as the summer; the technology writer is now thought to have sources close to NVIDIA, which is now effectively Apple's premier partner for mainboards and graphics.

With Phil Schiller's opening keynote just two days away, and AppleInsider's own sources anticipating Mac minis in the near future, these latest claims should be tested soon.


How old is the item you're quoting? Macworld has been and gone and the only hardware announcement was for a new laptop, a new 17-inch MacBook Pro. And that's based on existing tech, C2D etc.

Were you being ironic, perhaps?

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Here's the direct link posted January 9, 2009

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Today is January 20th 2009.

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Today is January 20th 2009.


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Doesn't seem too unreasonable...

From netkas' blog referring to latest beta build of snow leopard...


Known facts is:
1) most userspace apps is 32/64-bits now, except safari and itunes
2) vanila kernel works on Core i7
3) there is a lot of 32/64-bit drivers now, like ati drivers, but still some 32-bit only drivers, like nvidia drivers and atheros.
4) there is completly new framebuffer system for ati cards, one unified framebuffer kexts with plugins for specific models(they called ATIXXXXController.kext, XXXX is a card family)
5) ati 2600 and 3800 cards doesnt work with hardware acceleration(qe/ci/gl) on hacks
6) nvidia drivers support (in theory) new geforce gtx260/280 cards
this list is not complete.


Netkas' Blog


-Stell

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Doesn't seem too unreasonable...
-Stell


Apple plans to launch some NVIDIA-based iMacs at Macworld -- including a possible 28-inch model
[WRONG]
Apple will have "at least" four iMacs enroute this week that use the NVIDIA MCP79 chipset [WRONG]
Two 20-inch models, with a higher-end version carrying the same GeForce 9600M as for the 15-inch MacBook Pro [WRONG]
Two 24-inch versions said to use the 9600M in the base model while moving to the much faster 9800M in a top-end version [WRONG]
New, 28-inch version that would mark a radical break from its smaller counterparts [WRONG]
Intel's X58 chipset and a processor using the Core i7 including the four cores thought to be present in the upcoming Core 2-based iMac updates but would gain HyperThreading support that at times mimics the behavior of an eight-core system [MAYBE]
NVIDIA at most would be used for dedicated graphics in the all-in-one computer [MAYBE]
Some form of the MCP79 chipset is bound for the Mac mini but will be underclocked versus that in the MacBook and MacBook Pro, if faster than in the extremely thin MacBook Air [MAYBE]
Mac Pros will be upgraded to Core i7 architecture early this year; the processor is more likely to be one of Intel's new Core i7-based Xeons than the consumer-grade parts [PARDON?]

Some of these systems may not necessarily ship to stores at or shortly after the start of Macworld Expo. The 28-inch iMac and the Mac Pro will supposedly be pushed back to February where the smaller iMacs and the Mac mini are more likely to ship quickly. [THAT'S GOT TO BE PLUCKED OUT OF SOMEBODY'S BUTT]

Whether or not this latest report is accurate is less than clear. [IT'S VERY CLEAR! IT's NOT ACCURATE]
Although he uses a suspected fake mockup of a Mac mini to illustrate one of his points, Shrout's insight was key to confirming
[?] NVIDIA-based MacBooks as early as the summer; the technology writer is now thought to have sources close to NVIDIA, which is now effectively Apple's premier partner for mainboards and graphics. [Or he could be absolutely full of sh!t]

So...

Which piece exactly doesn't seem too unreasonable?

That the piece quoted for Macworld was wrong in specifics and totally unimaginative in its predictions? That because it might conceivably come true, like photon powered CPUs, some time in the next decade or maybe later, it's reasonable to post in the Reader News section such a load of utter wishful thinking? And outdated wishful thinking at that?

I don't see what's remotely reasonable about that. But I might be missing something.

Can you expand on "not too unreasonable" for us, thanks.

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I suppose I could have elaborated more on my post. I meant to say in connection to the i7 cpus being rumored to be used by Apple soon. Since Snow Leopard can now use them natively with an official kernel, it points me to believe that the next era of Mac Pros will at least have i7 based cpus. My bet is Apple will TRY to keep up with the latest and greatest. Even the ATI 4800 series is supported by Snow Leopard, so that means the 4870x2 will work just peachy. I can't wait to see what a true 64-bit OS like Snow Leopard can do with such power using OpenCL and Grand Central. :D

-Stell


Apple plans to launch some NVIDIA-based iMacs at Macworld -- including a possible 28-inch model
[WRONG]
Apple will have "at least" four iMacs enroute this week that use the NVIDIA MCP79 chipset [WRONG]
Two 20-inch models, with a higher-end version carrying the same GeForce 9600M as for the 15-inch MacBook Pro [WRONG]
Two 24-inch versions said to use the 9600M in the base model while moving to the much faster 9800M in a top-end version [WRONG]
New, 28-inch version that would mark a radical break from its smaller counterparts [WRONG]
Intel's X58 chipset and a processor using the Core i7 including the four cores thought to be present in the upcoming Core 2-based iMac updates but would gain HyperThreading support that at times mimics the behavior of an eight-core system [MAYBE]
NVIDIA at most would be used for dedicated graphics in the all-in-one computer [MAYBE]
Some form of the MCP79 chipset is bound for the Mac mini but will be underclocked versus that in the MacBook and MacBook Pro, if faster than in the extremely thin MacBook Air [MAYBE]
Mac Pros will be upgraded to Core i7 architecture early this year; the processor is more likely to be one of Intel's new Core i7-based Xeons than the consumer-grade parts [PARDON?]

Some of these systems may not necessarily ship to stores at or shortly after the start of Macworld Expo. The 28-inch iMac and the Mac Pro will supposedly be pushed back to February where the smaller iMacs and the Mac mini are more likely to ship quickly. [THAT'S GOT TO BE PLUCKED OUT OF SOMEBODY'S BUTT]

Whether or not this latest report is accurate is less than clear. [IT'S VERY CLEAR! IT's NOT ACCURATE]
Although he uses a suspected fake mockup of a Mac mini to illustrate one of his points, Shrout's insight was key to confirming
[?] NVIDIA-based MacBooks as early as the summer; the technology writer is now thought to have sources close to NVIDIA, which is now effectively Apple's premier partner for mainboards and graphics. [Or he could be absolutely full of sh!t]

So...

Which piece exactly doesn't seem too unreasonable?

That the piece quoted for Macworld was wrong in specifics and totally unimaginative in its predictions? That because it might conceivably come true, like photon powered CPUs, some time in the next decade or maybe later, it's reasonable to post in the Reader News section such a load of utter wishful thinking? And outdated wishful thinking at that?

I don't see what's remotely reasonable about that. But I might be missing something.

Can you expand on "not too unreasonable" for us, thanks.



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Apple plans to launch some NVIDIA-based iMacs at Macworld -- including a possible 28-inch model
[WRONG]
Apple will have "at least" four iMacs enroute this week that use the NVIDIA MCP79 chipset [WRONG]
Two 20-inch models, with a higher-end version carrying the same GeForce 9600M as for the 15-inch MacBook Pro [WRONG]
Two 24-inch versions said to use the 9600M in the base model while moving to the much faster 9800M in a top-end version [WRONG]
New, 28-inch version that would mark a radical break from its smaller counterparts [WRONG]
Intel's X58 chipset and a processor using the Core i7 including the four cores thought to be present in the upcoming Core 2-based iMac updates but would gain HyperThreading support that at times mimics the behavior of an eight-core system [MAYBE]
NVIDIA at most would be used for dedicated graphics in the all-in-one computer [MAYBE]
Some form of the MCP79 chipset is bound for the Mac mini but will be underclocked versus that in the MacBook and MacBook Pro, if faster than in the extremely thin MacBook Air [MAYBE]
Mac Pros will be upgraded to Core i7 architecture early this year; the processor is more likely to be one of Intel's new Core i7-based Xeons than the consumer-grade parts [PARDON?]

Some of these systems may not necessarily ship to stores at or shortly after the start of Macworld Expo. The 28-inch iMac and the Mac Pro will supposedly be pushed back to February where the smaller iMacs and the Mac mini are more likely to ship quickly. [THAT'S GOT TO BE PLUCKED OUT OF SOMEBODY'S BUTT]

Whether or not this latest report is accurate is less than clear. [IT'S VERY CLEAR! IT's NOT ACCURATE]
Although he uses a suspected fake mockup of a Mac mini to illustrate one of his points, Shrout's insight was key to confirming
[?] NVIDIA-based MacBooks as early as the summer; the technology writer is now thought to have sources close to NVIDIA, which is now effectively Apple's premier partner for mainboards and graphics. [Or he could be absolutely full of sh!t]

So...

Which piece exactly doesn't seem too unreasonable?

That the piece quoted for Macworld was wrong in specifics and totally unimaginative in its predictions? That because it might conceivably come true, like photon powered CPUs, some time in the next decade or maybe later, it's reasonable to post in the Reader News section such a load of utter wishful thinking? And outdated wishful thinking at that?

I don't see what's remotely reasonable about that. But I might be missing something.

Can you expand on "not too unreasonable" for us, thanks.


Damn man, calm down. Have a cup of decaf ;)





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