Colonel Badger Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 Just wondering.... Is there an off the shelf PC (one that does not require hardware modifications of any sort) that will install iAtKos/Kalyway perfectly with the vanilla kernel/EFI WITHOUT having to resort to additional drivers/kext's ? In other words, is it possible to buy a PC that can become a Mac with no work whatsoever, apart from installing the iAtkos/kalyway DVD? Mark. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/86322-the-perfect-off-the-shelf-computer-for-osx/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
andro6600 Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 yea.MINE! Except video drivers,needs to install NVinject 2.0.1, then work perfect! But with the incoming 10.5.2 update,you won't be need this anymore! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/86322-the-perfect-off-the-shelf-computer-for-osx/#findComment-612623 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel Badger Posted February 7, 2008 Author Share Posted February 7, 2008 So what make/model PC do you have?By "off the shelf" I mean, Dell, HP, Gateway etc. etc. NOT white box pc built by your fine hands!!! The idea of this thread is to provide a list of PC's that one can go out and buy rather than put together, that will just WORK !! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/86322-the-perfect-off-the-shelf-computer-for-osx/#findComment-612641 Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeple Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 yea.MINE! biggrin.gif wink_anim.gif Except video drivers,needs to install NVinject 2.0.1, then work perfect! But with the incoming 10.5.2 update,you won't be need this anymore! ha, if you're not logged in ( and so can't see the sigs) that must seem like a really smart alek reply! oops, actually he doesn't say what make it is does he Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/86322-the-perfect-off-the-shelf-computer-for-osx/#findComment-612643 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel Badger Posted February 7, 2008 Author Share Posted February 7, 2008 ha, if you're not logged ( and so can't see the sigs) in that must seem like a really smart aleck reply! I *AM* logged on. I can see the signature ASUS P5B-VM Intel Core 2 Quad Q 6600 (G0) 2x1Gb A-Data DDR2 800Mhz XFX 8600GT 256MB DDR3 Seagate 80Gb Kalyway Leopard 10.5.1 Vanilla kernel Still doesn't tell me what Make/Model PC they're running, they just list the parts!. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/86322-the-perfect-off-the-shelf-computer-for-osx/#findComment-612645 Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeple Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 I *AM* logged on. I can see the signature ASUS P5B-VM Intel Core 2 Quad Q 6600 (G0) 2x1Gb A-Data DDR2 800Mhz XFX 8600GT 256MB DDR3 Seagate 80Gb Kalyway Leopard 10.5.1 Vanilla kernel Still doesn't tell me what Make/Model PC they're running, they just list the parts!. yeah sorry about that! just caught it, have you tried the wiki, it's a bit messy but there's some good info i've noticed your question being asked quite a few times, but i've never seen an answer to it, sorry Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/86322-the-perfect-off-the-shelf-computer-for-osx/#findComment-612652 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel Badger Posted February 7, 2008 Author Share Posted February 7, 2008 yeah sorry about that!just caught it, have you tried the wiki, it's a bit messy but there's some good info i've noticed your question being asked quite a few times, but i've never seen an answer to it, sorry Actually this is the first time i've asked the question and it's more philosophical anyway as I have an already working OSX86 box. It just seems from observation that a lot of people go through a lot of hard work to find the right platform to get it working (myself included). I just wondered whether there are in fact platforms out there you can just buy off the shelf that just work!!!! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/86322-the-perfect-off-the-shelf-computer-for-osx/#findComment-612660 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rschultz101 Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 hate to say it, it's called a MAC ,.... yeah, spend way to much time too, on getting it to work,.... even if it works, of the bat, it still be a hack, and can stop working tomorrow,... aka your friend , hits update,... of the bat, - mac mini, for starters,... - imac, if it was not , for my son , playing games, he would have an iMac,... but on the iMac, you can't change/upgrade the graphicscard,.... and a mac pro , just for that, is out of question,... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/86322-the-perfect-off-the-shelf-computer-for-osx/#findComment-612681 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel Badger Posted February 7, 2008 Author Share Posted February 7, 2008 hate to say it, it's called a MAC ,.... yeah, spend way to much time too, on getting it to work,.... even if it works, of the bat, it still be a hack, and can stop working tomorrow,... aka your friend , hits update,... of the bat, - mac mini, for starters,... - imac, if it was not , for my son , playing games, he would have an iMac,... but on the iMac, you can't change/upgrade the graphicscard,.... and a mac pro , just for that, is out of question,... Although I understand that there are certainly no guarantees, I was under the impression that currently those people running Vanilla kernels and EFI, COULD hit the update button safely update their kernel and software. Obviously if the update modified a kext that was patched that could cause a problem. But right now that doesn't seem to be the case. It also relies on Apple not putting something new in to a kernel update that attempts to block these Mac PC's. Obviously this is a continual game of cat and mouse between Apple and us, however what i'm interested in is the current PC right now that will work right off the bat with an install DVD and be able to handle updates from Apple. I'm sure there must be at least one out there !!! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/86322-the-perfect-off-the-shelf-computer-for-osx/#findComment-612688 Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeple Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 Actually this is the first time i've asked the question and it's more philosophical anyway as I have an already working OSX86 box. It just seems from observation that a lot of people go through a lot of hard work to find the right platform to get it working (myself included). I just wondered whether there are in fact platforms out there you can just buy off the shelf that just work!!!!sorry, i meant it's a question that comes up alot, asked by many different people i'd compile a list of components, and have some local biz build it, if you don't want the hassle.IMHO there's no way to be sure of getting identical parts throughout the production run of a particular model of dell or whatever. i've got four macs and two hackintoshs, they've all been very reliable, i guess 10.5.2 is going to be the acid test! for example my motherboard 's onboard lan worked straight out of the box, another guy's "identical" board needed kexts, they seemed to be the same revision of board too- go figure Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/86322-the-perfect-off-the-shelf-computer-for-osx/#findComment-612735 Share on other sites More sharing options...
andro6600 Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 Sorry,didn't got you right.So,you want to by a MAC,but not being real MAC,something like a "MAC Ready" ?Good idea! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/86322-the-perfect-off-the-shelf-computer-for-osx/#findComment-612752 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel Badger Posted February 7, 2008 Author Share Posted February 7, 2008 sorry, i meant it's a question that comes up alot, asked by many different people i'd compile a list of components, and have some local biz build it, if you don't want the hassle.IMHO there's no way to be sure of getting identical parts throughout the production run of a particular model of dell or whatever. i've got four macs and two hackintoshs, they've all been very reliable, i guess 10.5.2 is going to be the acid test! for example my motherboard 's onboard lan worked straight out of the box, another guy's "identical" board needed kexts, they seemed to be the same revision of board too- go figure Good point. I'd forgetten that manufactures modify the spec subtly for PC's. You're probably right to just build it yourself then. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/86322-the-perfect-off-the-shelf-computer-for-osx/#findComment-612756 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siro Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 I was quite lucky in this aspect when I assembled my rig a year and a half ago little did I know that I would be having Leopard as my main OS in the coming year or so and the hardware is almost 100% supported except my built in audio which I have unfortunately not tested on it but I know for sure it never worked on Tiger for me.The motherboard I have is not the greatest out there in terms of performance but for sheer value and compatibility with Mac OS X I consider myself extremely fortunate to have it . Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/86322-the-perfect-off-the-shelf-computer-for-osx/#findComment-612861 Share on other sites More sharing options...
etgtv Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 andro6600, Sorry if this is a dumb question but the P5B-VM has integrated graphics, Intel GMA X3000 doesn't it ? If you needed nvinject does that mean you were using an Nvidia card in a slot instead ? Did Leopard boot ok without the nvinject but just not look quite right and the nvinject made things the way they should be (talking about if you used the internal built in video) ? Thanks. yea.MINE! Except video drivers,needs to install NVinject 2.0.1, then work perfect! But with the incoming 10.5.2 update,you won't be need this anymore! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/86322-the-perfect-off-the-shelf-computer-for-osx/#findComment-612868 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GameGuy360 Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 I using a HP DX2300: http://www.buytech.com/p-468907-hp-busines...top-dx2300.aspx Leopard runs perfectly on it, i upgraded the video card to a geforce 6200 and the ram to 1.5gb though. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/86322-the-perfect-off-the-shelf-computer-for-osx/#findComment-612875 Share on other sites More sharing options...
andro6600 Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 andro6600, Sorry if this is a dumb question but the P5B-VM has integrated graphics, Intel GMA X3000 doesn't it ? If you needed nvinject does that mean you were using an Nvidia card in a slot instead ? Did Leopard boot ok without the nvinject but just not look quite right and the nvinject made things the way they should be (talking about if you used the internal built in video) ? Thanks. Yes,it has GMA X3000,but for now,not working.Yes ,i am using NV 8600GT,Leopard boot OK with it,but can not change resolution and refresh rate,QE and CI also doesn't work,without NVinject. The new 10.5.2 will fix this,so no problems Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/86322-the-perfect-off-the-shelf-computer-for-osx/#findComment-613169 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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