Bernard Tapie Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 hello kunijp, how do you get both sleep and shutdown to work ? I use netkas 9.2.0 speedstep kernel, I thought you cannot have both sleep kernel and shutdown kernel .Which ACPI suspend type do you use S1 or S3 ? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/82760-how-i-install-1052-in-ep35ds4-rev-21-intel/page/2/#findComment-719903 Share on other sites More sharing options...
^_^ Posted April 25, 2008 Author Share Posted April 25, 2008 hello kunijp, how do you get both sleep and shutdown to work ? I use netkas 9.2.0 speedstep kernel, I thought you cannot have both sleep kernel and shutdown kernel .Which ACPI suspend type do you use S1 or S3 ? oppse, sorry i missed this, I am using Netkas's 9.2.0 kernel with fixed shutdown, last time i checked it works fine on my system. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/82760-how-i-install-1052-in-ep35ds4-rev-21-intel/page/2/#findComment-723572 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bripod Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 Shish and /\ _ /\, any updates? How are things going? I'm specing a similair build (same MB and CPU, just different drives and potentially video cards). My concerns are: sleep/shutdown, sound, dual displays, and Adobe CS3 compatability (just can't not have a computer without this for work!) I'll do a search on CS3, but I was just wondering if you two ran it. thanks and nice builds! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/82760-how-i-install-1052-in-ep35ds4-rev-21-intel/page/2/#findComment-808811 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaap Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 Bripod, follow sWords's guide in this thread, a little bit down the page. Using it, I have a fully working install on the EP35-DS4. Sleep works, and The CHUD package needed is part of a huge download, but worth it for the shutdown fix. EFI studio is excellent for adding graphic card support without even messing with kext files. I used close to the same instructions to set up another Gigabyte G31M-S2L board yesterday (Leo4allv3, CHUD+Poweroff fix, Kalaway 10.5.3 update+ kernel update, EFI to add graphic card) and had a fully working 10.5.3 system in less than a half hour. Edit- I use Photoshop CS3 on my system every day without any issues. Every app I've used, including all Apple Pro apps work fine. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/82760-how-i-install-1052-in-ep35ds4-rev-21-intel/page/2/#findComment-809377 Share on other sites More sharing options...
relikwie Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 Hi there, at the moment I am researching what the best possible hardware is for the most compatible hack. It must be compatible, able to install OSX 10.5 with the minimum of modifications, cheap, fast, silent energy efficient etc. I have been searching and reading like a retard the last copple of days and this is what I have and right now and what difficulties remaining. Case: Gigabyte iSolo (superb case for its money) PSU: Corsair VX450 (one of the best 450 PSU for the price) Mainboard: EP35-DS4 or P35-DS3L (Can't choose, see why below) CPU: Intel E8500 w/ stock cooler Memory: Corsair DDR2-1066 Dominator EPP HDD: 80GB SATA VGA: Geforce 7600GT 256M (Stock OC'ed - Will clock it down and replace active w/ passive cooler) Wireless: D-Link Extreme N (DWA-556) PCI-E (Works OOB and recognized as real airport) DVD: Samsung SATA DVDWR One thing that I cannot work out is the mainboard, I keep reading that the EP35-DS4 is less compatible than the P35-DS4, although the EP35-DS4 is just a BIOS updates of the P35-DS4 which adds energy features. so the incompatibilities should be in the BIOS version. With compatibility issues I mean, shutdown, sleep and restart and some with AHCI issues. But most importantly, what benefits do I have choosing the EP-DS4 over the P35-DS3L since the former is twice the price. Is it less energy efficient, slower, heats up more? From the looks it's only the heatpipes. Hopefully someone can shed some light on this.. Regards, relikwie. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/82760-how-i-install-1052-in-ep35ds4-rev-21-intel/page/2/#findComment-827496 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaap Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 One thing that I cannot work out is the mainboard, I keep reading that the EP35-DS4 is less compatible than the P35-DS4, althoughthe EP35-DS4 is just a BIOS updates of the P35-DS4 which adds energy features. so the incompatibilities should be in the BIOS version. Where are you reading that? Everything is fully compatible on either board revision. Also, the "Dynamic Energy Saver" features of the EP35-DS4 aren't available when using OSX- they're software accessed when using Windows and Gigabyte's software. With compatibility issues I mean, shutdown, sleep and restart and some with AHCI issues. Use the right guide with compatible Gigabyte P35 based boards- like sWORDs' guide linked to above, and everything works fine, sleep, shutdown, restart, etc. But most importantly, what benefits do I have choosing the EP-DS4 over the P35-DS3L since the former is twice the price. The DS4 has: faster, more-overclockable FSB, built in Firewire (2x), extra PCIe 16 slot, external SATA, more USB ports (8 vs 4). The heatpipe supposedly keeps it cooler. The energy-saving features only on the Windows side. Frankly, if none of the above are all that useful to you, (IE: you can always add Firewire and more USB ports cheaply) then the DS3 is a lot better bang-for-buck. Otherwise, there's not a whole heck of a lot of real world difference for Hackintosh use. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/82760-how-i-install-1052-in-ep35ds4-rev-21-intel/page/2/#findComment-828041 Share on other sites More sharing options...
relikwie Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 Where are you reading that? Everything is fully compatible on either board revision. Also, the "Dynamic Energy Saver" features of the EP35-DS4 aren't available when using OSX- they're software accessed when using Windows and Gigabyte's software. Use the right guide with compatible Gigabyte P35 based boards- like sWORDs' guide linked to above, and everything works fine, sleep, shutdown, restart, etc. The DS4 has: faster, more-overclockable FSB, built in Firewire (2x), extra PCIe 16 slot, external SATA, more USB ports (8 vs 4). The heatpipe supposedly keeps it cooler. The energy-saving features only on the Windows side. Frankly, if none of the above are all that useful to you, (IE: you can always add Firewire and more USB ports cheaply) then the DS3 is a lot better bang-for-buck. Otherwise, there's not a whole heck of a lot of real world difference for Hackintosh use. Hi Zaap, well I had the impression (read too many topics) that some had issues with it. It sure could be because of different ways of installing and the patches used or not. I'am totally convinced that GA-(E)P35 is the mainboard to use for a hackintosh. I ordered a GA-EP35-DS3P, has all the features the DS4 has for 20% less. I see in your sig that you run a quad core and I was wondering how well multicore CPU are utilized by OSX or will be in the future? I was going for a core2duo E8500, but doubting this now. Thanks. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/82760-how-i-install-1052-in-ep35ds4-rev-21-intel/page/2/#findComment-828249 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaap Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 relikwie, Unfortunately, I'm not one to ask about processors. I got the Q6600 because it's a steal at near the same price as a good Core2Duo, and I'd seen a lot of people here raving about it. For my money, it's been a great processor. However, I couldn't tell you what actually takes advantage of the quad processor with OSX. I know that the apps I use, Final Cut Pro (5 still) and Photoshop CS3 don't make use of the cores. I think mostly the full advantages won't be realized until later improvements to both OS and apps. I'm also a bit confused about 45nm processors and remain a little wary of them. I recently built a system using a 45nm processor (E7200) and found out the hard way that math-related functions fail in OSX with it and the vanilla kernel. (The clock loses time, Xbench scores are ridiculously exaggerated, and worse, things like proper frame calculations for accurate edits don't work properly in Final Cut.) The solution for me was to use the modbin kernel, but it really left me with a bad sense of having to rely on a 'hack'. I don't know if this is a problem with all 45nm processors or just some, but for now, I'm sticking to 65nm until I see a solution that doesn't involve a modified kernel. I don't see all that many people mention it as a problem, and no mention on the 10.5.2 HCL list even with processors like the E7200 it's not mentioned- which I find a bit confusing. That said, the system with the modbin kernel hauls ass, even outpaces my Q6600 at many tasks. I've no doubt the E8500 must be an amazing processor- just does it suffer from the same clock issues without the modbin kernel? I dunno. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/82760-how-i-install-1052-in-ep35ds4-rev-21-intel/page/2/#findComment-828580 Share on other sites More sharing options...
relikwie Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 relikwie,Unfortunately, I'm not one to ask about processors. I got the Q6600 because it's a steal at near the same price as a good Core2Duo, and I'd seen a lot of people here raving about it. For my money, it's been a great processor. However, I couldn't tell you what actually takes advantage of the quad processor with OSX. I know that the apps I use, Final Cut Pro (5 still) and Photoshop CS3 don't make use of the cores. I think mostly the full advantages won't be realized until later improvements to both OS and apps. I'm also a bit confused about 45nm processors and remain a little wary of them. I recently built a system using a 45nm processor (E7200) and found out the hard way that math-related functions fail in OSX with it and the vanilla kernel. (The clock loses time, Xbench scores are ridiculously exaggerated, and worse, things like proper frame calculations for accurate edits don't work properly in Final Cut.) The solution for me was to use the modbin kernel, but it really left me with a bad sense of having to rely on a 'hack'. I don't know if this is a problem with all 45nm processors or just some, but for now, I'm sticking to 65nm until I see a solution that doesn't involve a modified kernel. I don't see all that many people mention it as a problem, and no mention on the 10.5.2 HCL list even with processors like the E7200 it's not mentioned- which I find a bit confusing. That said, the system with the modbin kernel hauls ass, even outpaces my Q6600 at many tasks. I've no doubt the E8500 must be an amazing processor- just does it suffer from the same clock issues without the modbin kernel? I dunno. I just went for the E8500. Have read some threads about the clock skew issues with 45nm cpu's, alot indeed do no see these issues were others do not. Some get the issues fixed by using Chameleon EFI. Will find out soon anyway. Thanks! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/82760-how-i-install-1052-in-ep35ds4-rev-21-intel/page/2/#findComment-834932 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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