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Ok I was hoping for some ideas about building a future proof hackintosh on a budget. Looking for in-between 5 and 8 hundred.

 

I was thinking about basing this on the Hack attack article Build a Hackintosh Mac for Under $800 and the wish list

 

 

Just was wondering on some thoughts... I'm planning on trying to update a couple things each year to keep it running well. So i was thinking the things i'd worry about the most is the processor and mother board.

 

And one last thing. I'm new to this so be easy on me :(

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so far this is what i've got planned out.

 

Case $129 ar

Motherboard $179

G/F Card $39.99 ar

Processor $127.99

Memory $44.99 (got the single 2 gb to make upgrades easyer down the road)

DvD Drive $31.99

Moniter $229.99 (too bad i don't already have one)

 

ok does this look pretty good? I'm hoping for next fall, but idk.

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so far this is what i've got planned out.

 

Case $129 ar

Motherboard $179

G/F Card $39.99 ar

Processor $127.99

Memory $44.99 (got the single 2 gb to make upgrades easyer down the road)

DvD Drive $31.99

Moniter $229.99 (too bad i don't already have one)

 

ok does this look pretty good? I'm hoping for next fall, but idk.

 

It looks like a good project.

However, personally I'd rather buy a Bad Axe 2 motherboard.

Also: is the quality of that RAM good enough?

Is that Samsung DVD burner the best choice?

I have used Pioneers, from DVR-110 to DVR-112, which are what Apple uses, mostly.

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would the bad axe 2 motherboard be a patchless install? and what could i do to do this patchlessly??? I didn't really know that was possible

 

I have tried only Tiger so far, and the only thing which needs patching is sound, very easy:

 

http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?sho...c=60295&hl=

 

I haven't tried Leopard yet, but I have read several threads and it would seem that the situation is similar, only sound needs patching and the Bad Axe 2 is one of the most Leopard compatible boards.

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ok made some changes... got a 50 doller cheaper moniter (same one but 3 inches smaller) and i added 2 160 gb wd hd. And i changed to the ba2 mother board... the total right now is $734.91 i'm sure when i get closer to buying this that it will be closer to 500 and will most likely have some changes. Maybe the quad cores will be cheaper by then :wacko:

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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16813121060

 

is that the one you are talking about?

 

Also i'm planning on running windows too and maybe linux. I won't run into problems with those will i?

 

Yes, that is it (the mobo)

 

You shouldn't have any problem whatsoever running Windows and Linux, that is what I do as well (except for the problems that everybody has with Vista).

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i'll use xp, cause i'm scared of vista... and this year was the first year i'd really used any windows at all lol (thats because my school sent me a xp laptop, that is blocked up like a {censored})

 

well... its time to start saying my pennys huh :P thanks so much guys i've been thinking about this a lot and now really want to do this :wacko:

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I still don't get why you guys are so BA2 fixated. I agree that it's probably stable, but then again if stability's your only concern, I've got a 1997 Sun Ultra 60 in a stunningly fast Dual 360MHz configuration, which is more stable than any of your stinkin' cheap X86 machines :( As for compatibility, I totally disagree that BA2 is any better than more modern ICH8-R/ICH9-R based boards...

 

What can you leave stock on a BA2 that you can't on P965/P35 boards? I can run completely stock kexts + dsmos on my P35C-DS3R and 965P-DQ6 and the same is true of plenty of other manufacturers' boards. All my SATA ports work, including those on the JMicron. Even the JMicron ATA is hassle free in 10.5 (although it's not so great in Windows, hence my owning a SATA DVD+/-RW now), and I can't see why anybody building a new rig would want IDE devices anyway. I did change the plist in AHCIPort just for cosmetic reasons, but it doesn't make any performance difference at all. It's true that some Asus boards have been problematic with OSX86, and vanilla ICH8/ICH9 boards are a PITA with AHCI, but as long as you're weary of those, there's a wealth of boards from just about every other manufacturer that fit the bill perfectly.

 

It really is time to let this dog die. There are plenty of perfectly OSX86-compatible boards that are just as stable, just as compatible, faster, compatible with a wider range of RAM and future CPUs, and which overclock better, using newer chipsets. Not only is BA2 still more expensive than the boards I've mentioned, along with most P35/P965 boards from other manufacturers, but it's now out of production. Are you going to petition Intel to start making it again so generations of future innocent OSX86'ers can be brainwashed into paying a fortune for them? At what point will you finally declare it obsolete?

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If I remember correctly, Sarahbau said somewhere that the P35 can be incredibly slow with OSx86.

As to the P965, isn't it about as old as the Bad Axe 2?

Look what I found (for instance):

 

http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/periphera...otherboard.html

 

Upgradeability: the Bad Axe is compatible with 8GB DDR2 800 RAM, Quad Extreme... It isn't totally clear if it supports Penryns, but it should do:

 

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/intel...?i=2972&p=2

 

And, after all, Penryns aren't such a big deal, Nehalem is going to be the next "big thing"

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Core_2#Penryn

 

Concluding: Bad Axe 2 proponents aren't suggesting that you buy a dinosaur, they are suggesting a beautiful mobo, fully compatible with OSx86 and every other OS, very stable, incredibly easy to overclock, and still upgradeable to the latest technology.

By the time Nehalem becomes available, everything will need to be reconsidered, but not yet.

 

My 2 Cents...

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Neither P35 nor P965 have been remotely slow in OS X for me and most others discussing them on this forum. I've not seen any suggestion that P35 is slow in OS X, and I don't know where you got this idea from, and nor can I see why it should be. The OS doesn't really interact with the northbridge. It's a transient device which really just provides a pathway to the memory and other peripherals.

 

And no, P965 isn't as old as 975X. 975X was released roughly parallel to 945P/G, and that was long before Core 2 was released. They were designed to support Netburst architecture chips. Most early 945/975 motherboards didn't support Core 2 and had emergency hacks to the VRM to make them able to support Core 2's VIDs in later revisions (including the original Bad Axe, for a bit of history.) P965 was released at the same time as Core 2 chips, and was designed specifically to support them. It has a much better memory controller, overclocks much better (especially with quad cores, where 975X boards usually top out below 350MHz) and a better southbridge (ICH8) with more SATA ports and much better RAID performance.

 

If you want to keep paying more for an inferior board that doesn't support the new 45nm processors, feel free to. It's your money. I just want to make people aware that it probably isn't the best choice any more.

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