vandall Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 EDITED WITH CORRECT SPEC Whats in it... about £350! (based on apple uk store with 2.66 dual single core xeon default spec with no monitor etc..) Theres the lineup below from scan.co.uk.. by far the chepest and most reliable (tie with DABS, their delviery is real quick) retailer in the UK... QTY Price (ea) Ex VATTotal Inc VATRemove LN19817 Asus DSGC-DW i5000x, S2 x 771, PCI-E (x16), DDR2 ECC 533/667, SATA II, SATA RAID, SSI EEB£225.99£265.54 LN14162 320 Gb Seagate ST3320620AS Barracuda 7200.10, SATA300, 7200 rpm, 16MB Cache, 8.5 ms, NCQ£42.69£50.16 LN7842 EZCool Alpine 7104 Silver Case Midi - Apple G5 Design with aPFC 400W PSU£37.45£44.00 LN15804 256MB Gigabyte 7300GT PCI-E (x16), Mem 800MHz, GPU 450MHz, 8 Pipes, D-Sub/DVI-I/S-Video Silent-Pipe£40.30£47.35 LN15775 2GB Super*Talent T667FB2G4 (Samsung Ship) Fully Buffered DIMM (FB-DIMM) PC5300 667MHz£54.95£64.57 LN15558 Intel Xeon 5150 Passive Socket 771, Woodcrest Core, 2.66GHz , 4MB Cache, 1333 fsb, Retail£377.76£887.73 Net Total£1,156.89 Carriage£9.93 V.A.T.£204.19 TOTAL£1,371.01 The difference increases in favour of the pc in proportion to increasingly higher spec. Any one fancy buying the hardware and seeing if it gets on with hacked OSX? :censored2: Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/65387-real-quad-core-xeon-mac-pro-or-self-built-quad-core-xeon/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azurael Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 You do realise you've picked DDR ram for an FB-DIMM motherboard, don't you? I think you might have trouble getting it in the socket; and even more trouble getting it to work! :censored2: Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/65387-real-quad-core-xeon-mac-pro-or-self-built-quad-core-xeon/#findComment-463013 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vandall Posted October 4, 2007 Author Share Posted October 4, 2007 You do realise you've picked DDR ram for an FB-DIMM motherboard, don't you? I think you might have trouble getting it in the socket; and even more trouble getting it to work! :censored2: woops! Fair point.. lol! LN15775 2GB Super*Talent T667FB2G4 (Samsung Ship) Fully Buffered DIMM (FB-DIMM) PC5300 667MHz£54.95£64.57 Replace the corsair with that then,if you raised the mem sepec on the apple store then the 'pc' starts to work out a tiny bit cheper Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/65387-real-quad-core-xeon-mac-pro-or-self-built-quad-core-xeon/#findComment-463014 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarahbau Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 The 2.66GHz Mac Pro has 2x Dual Core Xeons, not Quad Core. The only Quad Core in Apple's lineup is the 3.0GHz Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/65387-real-quad-core-xeon-mac-pro-or-self-built-quad-core-xeon/#findComment-463020 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vandall Posted October 4, 2007 Author Share Posted October 4, 2007 The 2.66GHz Mac Pro has 2x Dual Core Xeons, not Quad Core. The only Quad Core in Apple's lineup is the 3.0GHz haha... indeed another legitimate correction. .. I guess this will mean the self build Mac Pro shaping up cheaper than the Apple.... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/65387-real-quad-core-xeon-mac-pro-or-self-built-quad-core-xeon/#findComment-463100 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vandall Posted October 4, 2007 Author Share Posted October 4, 2007 edited Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/65387-real-quad-core-xeon-mac-pro-or-self-built-quad-core-xeon/#findComment-463157 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yami Bakura Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 Wait until the Mac Pros are updated with Penryn Processors before buying. The Mac Pros are overdue for an update. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/65387-real-quad-core-xeon-mac-pro-or-self-built-quad-core-xeon/#findComment-463166 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azurael Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 Looks like a good rig if you don't want to wait though. Remember Penryn isn't out yet and is less than 10% faster, clock for clock, even in multithreaded apps that use all 4 cores, despite the unified cache in Penryn (that is performance of a single CPU - but you have an FSB per CPU with Intel's current server platform, so it's the same situation with an 8-core rig.) Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/65387-real-quad-core-xeon-mac-pro-or-self-built-quad-core-xeon/#findComment-463772 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yami Bakura Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 Looks like a good rig if you don't want to wait though. Remember Penryn isn't out yet and is less than 10% faster, clock for clock, even in multithreaded apps that use all 4 cores, despite the unified cache in Penryn (that is performance of a single CPU - but you have an FSB per CPU with Intel's current server platform, so it's the same situation with an 8-core rig.) Actually there's a rumor that the Penryn Mac Pro might come as soon as November. Link: http://www.macrumors.com/2007/10/05/apple-...ryn-processors/ Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/65387-real-quad-core-xeon-mac-pro-or-self-built-quad-core-xeon/#findComment-464043 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synaesthesia Posted October 6, 2007 Share Posted October 6, 2007 Could very well be. The Xeon chips are the first ones to get Penryn. And Apple always gets first dibs on the new chips. Remember Penryn isn't out yet and is less than 10% faster, clock for clock, even in multithreaded apps that use all 4 cores, despite the unified cache in Penryn Yeah, true that. The only real advantage to Penryn, IMO, is video encoding with SSE4, which is much faster. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/65387-real-quad-core-xeon-mac-pro-or-self-built-quad-core-xeon/#findComment-464318 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mumford Posted October 6, 2007 Share Posted October 6, 2007 Could very well be. The Xeon chips are the first ones to get Penryn. And Apple always gets first dibs on the new chips. Yeah, true that. The only real advantage to Penryn, IMO, is video encoding with SSE4, which is much faster. Disagreed. Penryn generates less heat, requiring less cooling. Think quiet. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/65387-real-quad-core-xeon-mac-pro-or-self-built-quad-core-xeon/#findComment-464698 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synaesthesia Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 Yes, it's better, but only slightly...It's not anything to freak out about. It's like the jump from Core Duo to Core 2 Duo, I don't get why ppl got so excited about it. Are you really gonna notice the 10% increase in speed? Oh yes, because Apple marketed it so well. If the Mac Pros get Penryn, Apple will milk it for everything they can... I wonder if Intel will call Penryn chips Core 3 Duo/Quad ? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/65387-real-quad-core-xeon-mac-pro-or-self-built-quad-core-xeon/#findComment-465168 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azurael Posted October 8, 2007 Share Posted October 8, 2007 AFAIK, it will still be Core 2. Core - Core 2 was a substantial jump, architecturally. Core 2 was a ground-up re-design, a new architecture called 'Intel Core', with much better instruction scheduling, wider execution units and AMD64 support. Yonah was just 2 Pentium M cores glued together with shared L2, it was still 'P6' architecture based, an architecture introduced with the Pentium Pro. Penryn cores are still 'Intel Core' architecture chips; basically just a die shrink of Conroe with extra L2 (Conroe's already got plenty), SSE4 and further, very slight optimisations of the SIMD units. Unless you're using SSE4, you're very unlikely to see much difference between the two chips. I expect that's not going to happen, as very few pieces of software today can even make substantial use of SSE3, an instruction set introduced 3 years ago, with Prescott. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/65387-real-quad-core-xeon-mac-pro-or-self-built-quad-core-xeon/#findComment-465896 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conroe Mac Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 Yes, core to core2 was a big jump. The shared cache makes a big difference. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/65387-real-quad-core-xeon-mac-pro-or-self-built-quad-core-xeon/#findComment-489607 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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