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Whats in it... about £350!

 

(based on apple uk store with 2.66 dual single core xeon default spec with no monitor etc..)

 

Theres the lineup below from scan.co.uk.. by far the chepest and most reliable (tie with DABS, their delviery is real quick) retailer in the UK...

 

QTY Price (ea) Ex VATTotal Inc VATRemove LN19817

out_stock.gifAsus DSGC-DW i5000x, S2 x 771, PCI-E (x16), DDR2 ECC 533/667, SATA II, SATA RAID, SSI EEBi.gif£225.99£265.54trashcan.gif LN14162

in_stock.gif320 Gb Seagate ST3320620AS Barracuda 7200.10, SATA300, 7200 rpm, 16MB Cache, 8.5 ms, NCQi.gif£42.69£50.16trashcan.gif LN7842

in_stock.gifEZCool Alpine 7104 Silver Case Midi - Apple G5 Design with aPFC 400W PSUi.gif£37.45£44.00trashcan.gif LN15804

in_stock.gif256MB Gigabyte 7300GT PCI-E (x16), Mem 800MHz, GPU 450MHz, 8 Pipes, D-Sub/DVI-I/S-Video Silent-Pipei.gif£40.30£47.35trashcan.gif LN15775

out_stock.gif2GB Super*Talent T667FB2G4 (Samsung Ship) Fully Buffered DIMM (FB-DIMM) PC5300 667MHzi.gif£54.95£64.57trashcan.gif LN15558

in_stock.gifIntel Xeon 5150 Passive Socket 771, Woodcrest Core, 2.66GHz , 4MB Cache, 1333 fsb, Retaili.gif£377.76£887.73trashcan.gif Net Total£1,156.89 Carriage£9.93 V.A.T.£204.19 TOTAL£1,371.01

 

The difference increases in favour of the pc in proportion to increasingly higher spec.

 

Any one fancy buying the hardware and seeing if it gets on with hacked OSX? :censored2:

You do realise you've picked DDR ram for an FB-DIMM motherboard, don't you?

 

I think you might have trouble getting it in the socket; and even more trouble getting it to work! :censored2:

 

 

woops! Fair point.. lol!

 

469715-tb.jpg LN15775

out_stock.gif2GB Super*Talent T667FB2G4 (Samsung Ship) Fully Buffered DIMM (FB-DIMM) PC5300 667MHz£54.95£64.57

 

Replace the corsair with that then,if you raised the mem sepec on the apple store then the 'pc' starts to work out a tiny bit cheper

The 2.66GHz Mac Pro has 2x Dual Core Xeons, not Quad Core. The only Quad Core in Apple's lineup is the 3.0GHz

 

 

haha... indeed another legitimate correction. ;) .. I guess this will mean the self build Mac Pro shaping up cheaper than the Apple....

Looks like a good rig if you don't want to wait though. Remember Penryn isn't out yet and is less than 10% faster, clock for clock, even in multithreaded apps that use all 4 cores, despite the unified cache in Penryn (that is performance of a single CPU - but you have an FSB per CPU with Intel's current server platform, so it's the same situation with an 8-core rig.)

Looks like a good rig if you don't want to wait though. Remember Penryn isn't out yet and is less than 10% faster, clock for clock, even in multithreaded apps that use all 4 cores, despite the unified cache in Penryn (that is performance of a single CPU - but you have an FSB per CPU with Intel's current server platform, so it's the same situation with an 8-core rig.)

Actually there's a rumor that the Penryn Mac Pro might come as soon as November. Link:

http://www.macrumors.com/2007/10/05/apple-...ryn-processors/

Could very well be. The Xeon chips are the first ones to get Penryn. And Apple always gets first dibs on the new chips.

Remember Penryn isn't out yet and is less than 10% faster, clock for clock, even in multithreaded apps that use all 4 cores, despite the unified cache in Penryn

Yeah, true that. The only real advantage to Penryn, IMO, is video encoding with SSE4, which is much faster.

Could very well be. The Xeon chips are the first ones to get Penryn. And Apple always gets first dibs on the new chips.

 

Yeah, true that. The only real advantage to Penryn, IMO, is video encoding with SSE4, which is much faster.

 

Disagreed. Penryn generates less heat, requiring less cooling. Think quiet.

Yes, it's better, but only slightly...It's not anything to freak out about.

 

It's like the jump from Core Duo to Core 2 Duo, I don't get why ppl got so excited about it. Are you really gonna notice the 10% increase in speed? Oh yes, because Apple marketed it so well.

 

If the Mac Pros get Penryn, Apple will milk it for everything they can...

 

I wonder if Intel will call Penryn chips Core 3 Duo/Quad ?

AFAIK, it will still be Core 2.

 

Core - Core 2 was a substantial jump, architecturally. Core 2 was a ground-up re-design, a new architecture called 'Intel Core', with much better instruction scheduling, wider execution units and AMD64 support. Yonah was just 2 Pentium M cores glued together with shared L2, it was still 'P6' architecture based, an architecture introduced with the Pentium Pro.

 

Penryn cores are still 'Intel Core' architecture chips; basically just a die shrink of Conroe with extra L2 (Conroe's already got plenty), SSE4 and further, very slight optimisations of the SIMD units. Unless you're using SSE4, you're very unlikely to see much difference between the two chips. I expect that's not going to happen, as very few pieces of software today can even make substantial use of SSE3, an instruction set introduced 3 years ago, with Prescott.

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