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Just a quick question on the constitution, and the 2nd amendment, which you claim is perfect and protects you from tyranny etc...

 

Surely if the government wanted to, they could just chuck the constitution in the incinerator?

 

Nothing can be perfect - it's impossible.

 

Anything can be overthrown, and something can always be changed.

 

 

 

Anyway, I'm off topic here, but you bringing the constitution up reminded me...

EX: Weather you believe in Guns or not, you have NO right to tell others they can't own one.

But if you don't want one fine. Don't get one. Set up a Star Wars torrent system outside your home or something.

lol, guns are real. And yeah, you cant tell someone they cant own one, but the government can. What I dont understand is why people have the right to own assault rifles. Yeah a pistol or shotgun or hunting rifle is one thing, but something designed specifically for warfare? That's always made me uneasy knowing someone can own ak-47 or an m4gery.

 

 

But yeah, are we debating about whether what she does is illegal or if shes just plain evil?

lol, guns are real. And yeah, you cant tell someone they cant own one, but the government can. What I dont understand is why people have the right to own assault rifles. Yeah a pistol or shotgun or hunting rifle is one thing, but something designed specifically for warfare? That's always made me uneasy knowing someone can own ak-47 or an m4gery.But yeah, are we debating about whether what she does is illegal or if shes just plain evil?

 

There was a episode of Star Trek years ago. The original one with James T. Kirk. BTW: The T stood for Tiberius. Yes, that is scary.Back to the point, on that episode, there was a neutral planet run by two peoples that lived in peace. The Clingons armed one of the races with guns in the hopes that that race of men would dominate the planet. Kirk found out about it, and told TiRee to arm his people, and taught them how to use them, BUT, he ONLY armed them with guns of EQUAL power to those the other side had. He DID NOT give them laser cannons, and the like, BUT he gave them old flint lock guns, which is what the other race had.

 

The name of the episode was: Balance of Power.

 

Let us consider the country of Switzerland. Hitler did not dare attack them because all of their citizens had arms. They have no standing military. But Hitler was scared to death of them. %88 of their population bared arms, and they have almost no crime because the point is, that someone would not dare rob someone with a gun. Even their government fears them. Which is why their government is small, and neutral. :D

 

I actually own a soviet AK-47 with legalized American parts on it, it is a very good hunting gun, and fairly accurate at 100 yards. With the right clip it can be a full-auto, I will not post on here weather I have that clip or not, but the gun is NEVER shot, or taken out in public, or even hunted with, but when i first bought it. The gun is purely for a life-or-death situation, and protecting my home against 'invasion' should that day ever come.

 

My neighbor down the street is a retired military 2 star general, he owns an older M-16, and 2 Uzis, he had to have a permit to own it on his own property which is ridiculous, but the cops around here don't care if he fires it. Full auto guns are fun to shoot because they will totally eat up a wood target. Makes a mess out of what it hits.But full-autos only serve one purpose, and that is war, foreign, guerilla, or domestic. Only a fool would shoot someone that is unarmed, because that is murder.

 

Never shoot a full auto unless you are shooting it to keep it working property, or unless tanks start rolling on your property. And never tell anyone you have it unless you have a permit to have it.

 

The Browns are the PERFECT example of a reason to own full-autos. And that is the ONLY reason to own one. And that is War.http://questforfairtrialinconcordnh.blogspot.com/

 

EDIT: Sorry, firefox doesn't like some aspects of this board.

But the government cannot ban all guns. I would like to address this too. The government can TRY, but again, that is why the 2nd exists. The Constitution is the LAW that WE HOLD THEM TO. When we realize that, then We the People will win against them, and their corruption.

 

Dude fire up iTunes, and put this in. Check out Alex Jone's show. He is talking about it right now actually. His show repeats all Sunday afternoon.

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what are we debating, whether she is "evil" or what she is saying is illegal?
Yes, but this is a subtopic that addresses the topic at hand indirectly. Weather she is right or wrong is purely opinion. I believe she is evil. So it does indirectly address the topic at hand. B)
Yes, but this is a subtopic that addresses the topic at hand indirectly. Weather she is right or wrong is purely opinion. I believe she is evil. So it does indirectly address the topic at hand. :D

weather...lol but i do agree with u there. and u know someone who owns an m16 B) but maybe im confusing an m16 with another gun...hmm

There was a episode of Star Trek years ago. The original one with James T. Kirk. BTW: The T stood for Tiberius. Yes, that is scary.Back to the point, on that episode, there was a neutral planet run by two peoples that lived in peace. The Clingons armed one of the races with guns in the hopes that that race of men would dominate the planet. Kirk found out about it, and told TiRee to arm his people, and taught them how to use them, BUT, he ONLY armed them with guns of EQUAL power to those the other side had. He DID NOT give them laser cannons, and the like, BUT he gave them old flint lock guns, which is what the other race had.

 

The name of the episode was: Balance of Power.

 

Honestly, did they just completely ignore the Prime Directive :P:D

 

Let us consider the country of Switzerland. Hitler did not dare attack them because all of their citizens had arms. They have no standing military. But Hitler was scared to death of them.

 

The reason why Hitler didn't attack the Swiss (plans were made, however, look up Operation Tannanbaum) because they have one of the largest Military forces per person. Nowadays, Switzerland has about 37 people per 1000 in the military (the only country higher is North Korea). Switzerland currently has the 38th largest military force in the world. For a country with only 7 and a half million people, they are pretty well fortified. Switzerland is quite a remarkable country, actually. Did you know there is a bed for every person in Switzerland in their radiation shelters?

 

%88 of their population bared arms, and they have almost no crime because the point is, that someone would not dare rob someone with a gun. Even their government fears them. Which is why their government is small, and neutral. :)

 

So they live in a country of fear then, is that what you are saying? Personally, fear is worse than people just killing eachother...

And bringing up my point earlier, if the Swiss government is scared of its people, why would they provide everyone in the country with a shelter?

 

The gun is purely for a life-or-death situation, and protecting my home against 'invasion' should that day ever come.

 

Invasion? Is your house on an oil field or something?

 

My neighbor down the street is a retired military 2 star general, he owns an older M-16, and 2 Uzis, he had to have a permit to own it on his own property which is ridiculous, but the cops around here don't care if he fires it.

 

So the cops don't care that he is firing a deadly weapon around as if it is nothing? Honestly, why bother even having a police force in America...

 

Full auto guns are fun to shoot because they will totally eat up a wood target. Makes a mess out of what it hits.But full-autos only serve one purpose, and that is war, foreign, guerilla, or domestic. Only a fool would shoot someone that is unarmed, because that is murder.

 

So the reason why you and your neighbour is armed is because you are ready to be invaded by a foreign force and then fight guerilla warfare? Don't you think you are being a bit too protective?

 

Never shoot a full auto unless you are shooting it to keep it working property, or unless tanks start rolling on your property. And never tell anyone you have it unless you have a permit to have it.

 

Tanks on your property? Seriously, are the Swiss going to invade or something?

The Browns are the PERFECT example of a reason to own full-autos. And that is the ONLY reason to own one. And that is War.

 

Why not just join the army. That way, you get to use more guns and, rather than waiting for the war to come to you, they take you to the war and you get paid for it!

 

 

But the government cannot ban all guns. I would like to address this too. The government can TRY, but again, that is why the 2nd exists. The Constitution is the LAW that WE HOLD THEM TO. When we realize that, then We the People will win against them, and their corruption.

 

At the end of the day, if the government becomes truly corrupt, how can the constitution stop them? Sure, some words will really stop a military force...

 

I am amazed, actually, as an American, that despite many people considering America to be the origin of modern democracy, you seem to have so little faith in the system.

well... you could still be {censored} if you castrated yourself - you just couldnt give out - only recieve

her logic is flawed

 

She said that its only "Bad" to partake in the behavior, so being castrated would "Protect you from sinning"

 

I don't care how anyone sugar coats it, I'm {censored} and I'm not ashamed of it and, quite frankly, if there even is heaven or hell, i could care less where i end up.

 

We just have to hope that someone does America, and the world for that matter, a huge favor and kill them all.

 

Here is an idea. Join the Fox news team, because that is what you are starting to sound like.

Ignorant, and controlled by your uneducated opinion.

I don't care how anyone sugar coats it, I'm {censored} and I'm not ashamed of it and, quite frankly, if there even is heaven or hell, i could care less where i end up.

 

You can rest assured, if there is a God (and I am pretty sure there is a Supreme Being), he doesn't hate {censored} people.

Why should he? It wouldn't make any sense whatsoever.

well it's obviously a fact that you americans are mostly very hard believers (we saw in class a video about those new christians and their patric college or something like that) and that religion is just a piece of {censored} and causes most of the wars (except the oil wars of (again) america). But this family is so sick that i have to puke when i see them. (but the new christians make me puke too. There's a high school in america where the kids in biology that all the old objects we found in the ground, are just objects that became burried after the sin flood (i don't know if it's called the sind flood in america but in belgium it's 'zondvloed'). That's really sick too

 

but the speech of the leader of that movement is shown in quicktime on a mac :D

 

 

 

You're from Belgium? I just had a buddy visit me last month from there. He basically explained Belgium in this mathimatical equation:

 

Belgium = America LE

You can rest assured, if there is a God (and I am pretty sure there is a Supreme Being), he doesn't hate {censored} people.Why should he? It wouldn't make any sense whatsoever.
You are right. God doesn't hate anyone.
You're from Belgium? I just had a buddy visit me last month from there. He basically explained Belgium in this mathimatical equation:Belgium = America LE
Yep.
the swiss have always been well fortified and never conquered - read "the prince" by niccolo machiavelli

 

I started on it a few days ago. But haven't had time to start back on it.

It's a one hour read ;-p

 

There are two types of principalities. 1) a principality with barons and 2) a principality with ministers. A principality with barons is easy to invade, as you will always find a baron who is dissatisfied with the status quo, but difficult to hold, as the barons will always desire their own supremacy over yours. A principality with ministers is difficult to invade, as the people are directly loyal to the prince and not the ministers; Once the prince and his family are extinquished, holding this type of principality becomes easy.

 

While it's true that Iraq exists today and not in the 16th century, some of the same principals hold true.

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