g8m3rtag Posted August 7, 2007 Share Posted August 7, 2007 Well I started off on Mac's and loved Wolfenstein3D Second Encounter. Well then I moved to PC's and I've been working at a local PC repair company for awhile now and I've been having a craving to play Wolfenstein3D Second Encounter. Which is only for the Mac. I noticed a couple of old iMac's sitting in our warehouse and asked about them and was told I could check them out and take one if I wanted. So me and a co-worker grabbed them, one had OS 8.6 with 64mb of ram while the other had OS 9.1 with 32 MB of ram. So we opened them up (first time for both of us) and pulled the extra stick of ram from the 8.6 machine and put it in the 9.1 machine. Now if I open up the Apple System Profiler it only says 32mb of ram. Why would it only be showing the 32mb? Also it the System Profiler says Machine ID: 406 Processor info: PowerPC G3 Machine speed: 233MHz Is there anything I can upgrade in this? Processor for example, to one of the newer ones. Not like one of the Intel ones, just one that shipped in a newer iMac from the same gen. I'm pretty sure this is the iMac I have http://lowendmac.com/imacs/imac-b.shtml and I was thinking of updating it to something from one of these http://lowendmac.com/imacs/imac-c.shtml http://lowendmac.com/imacs/imac-d.shtml Where's a good place to look for these parts? And is the ram just regular SD SO-DIMM ram? like what's used in old PC laptops? Sorry for all the questions and noobishness, but we all have to start somewhere. I also found a CD in one of our drawers that said OS9 Classic. So I'm assuming its OS 9.1, This hard drive has a bunch of stuff on it from the previous owner and I was wondering if I put this in and booted off it (holding down C key while booting) and formatted and installed would it pretty much go like a Windows installation? Would I need any drivers or updates after the install is done like in Windows? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/59231-rev-b-g3/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Nonny Moose Posted August 7, 2007 Share Posted August 7, 2007 Go to Macsales.com and see what can be upgraded. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/59231-rev-b-g3/#findComment-422247 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lactobacillus P Posted August 7, 2007 Share Posted August 7, 2007 g8m3rtag wrote on Aug 7 2007, 07:15 AM: So we opened them up (first time for both of us) and pulled the extra stick of ram from the 8.6 machine and put it in the 9.1 machine. Now if I open up the Apple System Profiler it only says 32mb of ram. Why would it only be showing the 32mb? These iMacs are pretty specific in the type of SDRam they can handle. The 'bios' of the iMac doesn't recognize as much as a regular PC bios would. Basic rule make sure you put in matching sdrams with the same timing etc. Theres quite a few resources on the web regarding possible upgrades for your specific mac! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/59231-rev-b-g3/#findComment-422263 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headrush69 Posted August 7, 2007 Share Posted August 7, 2007 It uses PC66 144 pin SO-DIMM RAM. There is a CPU upgrade, but for that price you can pick up a much better G4 Mac with better options from ebay. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/59231-rev-b-g3/#findComment-422277 Share on other sites More sharing options...
g8m3rtag Posted August 8, 2007 Author Share Posted August 8, 2007 I got an old 128mb SODIMM from work today and installed it a little bit ago. It's being recognized so I now have a total of 160MB of RAM. Now one thing I noticed while changing the RAM is that the two slots are keyed differently. The 32MB stick in the bottom slot will not fit in the top slot and the 128mb stick that fit in the top slot will not fit in the bottom slot? Why would they be keyed differently? Now I just gotta figure out how to get my copy of wolfenstein off this zip disk. The zip drive was hooked to my dad's old PowerPC through a parallel port I believe and there isn't a parallel port on the iMac to hook it too. So i'm currently trying to get my windows machine to recognize it on its parallel port and then share the drive across the network and access it from the iMac that way. Having some issues getting the zip drive to show up in my computer though. even if i get it to show up will sharing it like that even be possible? edit: the system profiler shows the memory as J3/Bottom 32MB Dimm and J1/Top 128MB Dimm. so is there a J2? like another memory slot? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/59231-rev-b-g3/#findComment-422743 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lactobacillus P Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 I got an old 128mb SODIMM from work today and installed it a little bit ago. It's being recognized so I now have a total of 160MB of RAM. Now one thing I noticed while changing the RAM is that the two slots are keyed differently. The 32MB stick in the bottom slot will not fit in the top slot and the 128mb stick that fit in the top slot will not fit in the bottom slot? Why would they be keyed differently? Now I just gotta figure out how to get my copy of wolfenstein off this zip disk. The zip drive was hooked to my dad's old PowerPC through a parallel port I believe and there isn't a parallel port on the iMac to hook it too. So i'm currently trying to get my windows machine to recognize it on its parallel port and then share the drive across the network and access it from the iMac that way. Having some issues getting the zip drive to show up in my computer though. even if i get it to show up will sharing it like that even be possible? edit: the system profiler shows the memory as J3/Bottom 32MB Dimm and J1/Top 128MB Dimm. so is there a J2? like another memory slot? THe old powermac had a big scsi interface - on pc's the Iomega zip drivers where connected to the parallel port but scsi could also be used on a scsi card. You might be able to share it in windows, but I think on OS9.x you'll need 3rd party software to connect to a windows share. A scsi Iomega ZIP drive will not work on a PC with a parallel port connected to that port. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/59231-rev-b-g3/#findComment-422823 Share on other sites More sharing options...
g8m3rtag Posted August 8, 2007 Author Share Posted August 8, 2007 Hmm, that would be my problem then, cause this is a ZIP 100 SCSI. Wish I had a SCSI controller. I'm just gonna grab a USB floppy today at work to plug into the iMac. The PowerPC has a built in floppy so it will just be a matter of using floppy disks to transfer it. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/59231-rev-b-g3/#findComment-423020 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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